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The currency two shillings is sterling, but the spelling of "License" seems American. In UK it is LIcence. Thanks, capetown
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Capetown......Can you see the watermark? Shamrock (upright or inverted) Perf 14 is from 1865.
Orbs (sideways) Perf 14 is from 1882. I am assuming the colour is Lilac, it looks like it on my screen.
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Most often used with an additional Dog License registration stamp (overprinted Ireland Petty Sessions revenues).
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02:03:24pm
I like this thread.
That's a cool stamp.
Cinnamon thinks so too!
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It seems 2 shillings would be an awful lot of money back in 1895 for a dog license.
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I did a bit of online searching. A British pound from 1895 would be worth 189.5 pounds today and since each pound is 20 shillings that makes the value of the license 8.4 pounds in today's money. That sounds reasonable to me!
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thanks to all of you who responded...woof! woof! capetown
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Where did the 1895 come from ?
And what about the watermark ?
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12:45:09pm
Thanks to the wonders of currency based on gold and silver, it is easy to compare currencies at that time.
Two British shillings contained .34 ounces of silver. A US 50c piece contained .36 ounces. The exchange rate was approximately £1 = $5
So this stamp was the equivalent at the time of approximately a 50c stamp in the US.
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The exchange rate in 1882 was $5 to the pound.
The exchange rate in 1865 was between $6.8 to $8.5 to the pound depending upon the month. 1865 was a turbulent year.
We need to know the watermark !!
capetown ?
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03:09:33pm
"The exchange rate in 1865 was between $6.8 to $8.5 to the pound depending upon the month. "
That was when the US suspended the convertibility of currency into gold due to Civil War debts.
The "Greenbacks" they issued traded at a discount to gold for that period, returning to par with gold by 1878.
They reinstated full convertibility in 1879.
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It is perf 14. Could not find a watermark...I do not have any technical equipment to detect one. The watermark detector I have showed nothing when I tried using lighter fluid. The color is lilac to the best of my knowledge. Again thanks for the responses.
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"It seems 2 shillings would be an awful lot of money back in 1895 for a dog license."
Let's say the 1890s then, but it would seem to put the owning of a dog beyond the means of many ordinary people. Now maybe it could be argued that was a good thing, but it would seem to restrict dog ownership to the wealthy or middle class (in the British sense of class designations.)
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The average daily wage in the US in the 1890s was $1.50 - $3.00 if you had a job.
Years ago while researching my extended family and its roots, we discovered a Brooklyn Eagle clipping about a cousin's family, telling of the detention of a grandparent when the police were called upon the death of an infant from malnutrition. The father, a laborer had been layed off, could find no job and both he and his wife, also were near death.
they were taken in at some charity hospital.
tough times.
In the UK average income had risen from £34.9 in 1874 to £42.7 in 1900, Eating a dog, with or with a license might seem reasonable at times.
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06:15:22pm
Found this item in a mixture...looks like an Great Britain dog license stamp. Can someone tell me if this is correct.
The currency two shillings is sterling, but the spelling of "License" seems American. In UK it is LIcence. Thanks, capetown
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Capetown......Can you see the watermark? Shamrock (upright or inverted) Perf 14 is from 1865.
Orbs (sideways) Perf 14 is from 1882. I am assuming the colour is Lilac, it looks like it on my screen.
De La Rue.
Most often used with an additional Dog License registration stamp (overprinted Ireland Petty Sessions revenues).
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re: doggie revenue?
I like this thread.
That's a cool stamp.
Cinnamon thinks so too!
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It seems 2 shillings would be an awful lot of money back in 1895 for a dog license.
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re: doggie revenue?
I did a bit of online searching. A British pound from 1895 would be worth 189.5 pounds today and since each pound is 20 shillings that makes the value of the license 8.4 pounds in today's money. That sounds reasonable to me!
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thanks to all of you who responded...woof! woof! capetown
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Where did the 1895 come from ?
And what about the watermark ?
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re: doggie revenue?
Thanks to the wonders of currency based on gold and silver, it is easy to compare currencies at that time.
Two British shillings contained .34 ounces of silver. A US 50c piece contained .36 ounces. The exchange rate was approximately £1 = $5
So this stamp was the equivalent at the time of approximately a 50c stamp in the US.
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The exchange rate in 1882 was $5 to the pound.
The exchange rate in 1865 was between $6.8 to $8.5 to the pound depending upon the month. 1865 was a turbulent year.
We need to know the watermark !!
capetown ?
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re: doggie revenue?
"The exchange rate in 1865 was between $6.8 to $8.5 to the pound depending upon the month. "
That was when the US suspended the convertibility of currency into gold due to Civil War debts.
The "Greenbacks" they issued traded at a discount to gold for that period, returning to par with gold by 1878.
They reinstated full convertibility in 1879.
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re: doggie revenue?
It is perf 14. Could not find a watermark...I do not have any technical equipment to detect one. The watermark detector I have showed nothing when I tried using lighter fluid. The color is lilac to the best of my knowledge. Again thanks for the responses.
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re: doggie revenue?
"It seems 2 shillings would be an awful lot of money back in 1895 for a dog license."
Let's say the 1890s then, but it would seem to put the owning of a dog beyond the means of many ordinary people. Now maybe it could be argued that was a good thing, but it would seem to restrict dog ownership to the wealthy or middle class (in the British sense of class designations.)
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re: doggie revenue?
The average daily wage in the US in the 1890s was $1.50 - $3.00 if you had a job.
Years ago while researching my extended family and its roots, we discovered a Brooklyn Eagle clipping about a cousin's family, telling of the detention of a grandparent when the police were called upon the death of an infant from malnutrition. The father, a laborer had been layed off, could find no job and both he and his wife, also were near death.
they were taken in at some charity hospital.
tough times.
In the UK average income had risen from £34.9 in 1874 to £42.7 in 1900, Eating a dog, with or with a license might seem reasonable at times.
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