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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Understanding typography

 

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Bobstamp
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13 Feb 2015
10:49:58pm
I think I understand the difference between engraving and typography as they relate to stamp production:

• In engraving, the design is first cut into metal or some other substrate. The cut-away areas are then filled with ink, paper is pressed onto the surface, and the ink transfers to the paper, creating a design that is raised above the surface of the paper.

• In typography, the substrate is cut away from what will be the design of the stamp, creating a raised surface that is like the final design of the stamp. That raised surface is inked, paper is pressed onto it, and the ink transfers to the paper, creating a design that is raised, but not to the extent of that of an engraved image.

If my understanding is correct, there doesn't seem to be much difference in the final product. Slania might disagree, and I do appreciate the incredible detail of finely engraved stamps. If I am wrong, I hope that someone corrects me.

Now the question that sent me here: Is it correct to say that an artist engraves the initial design of a stamp that will be typographed?

Bob
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14 Feb 2015
05:58:47am
re: Understanding typography

Bob,
According to the APS text book on printing methods, the following is offered:
Typography:
1. Possible spread prints--a showing of heavily inked edges or haloes around the periphery of lines, dots, etc.
2. Lines have a tendency to mash, bulge, distort during printing.
3. May show relief embossing on reverse side of substrate.
Line Engraving:
1. Generally sharp detail with no spreading of image or ridge of ink.
2. Best tonal reproduction because it can transfer many variations to the thickness of ink thus providing relatively strong rich tones.
3. Raised feel to prints; this can also be seen under magnification and oblique lighting.
4. No screen patterns.
5. May show debossing on reverse side.

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14 Feb 2015
05:10:49pm
re: Understanding typography

That's a useful description. But what verb does one use in describing the act of creating the artwork for a typographed stamp?

Here's a fictitious telephone call:

Caller: I'd like to speak to Slania.

Mrs. Slania: I'm sorry, he can't come to the phone. He's busy engraving.

So, what would the conversation be if Slania hadn't been an engraver, but a typographer?:

Caller: I'd like to speak to Slania.

Mrs. Slania: I'm sorry, he can't come to the phone. He's busy typographing.

That second response just doesn't seem useful. Maybe there is no useful vocabulary for the process of creating the art for a typographed stamp, and I'm just chasing my tail!

Bob

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14 Feb 2015
06:48:43pm
re: Understanding typography

That's certainly a difficult one to answer. I can find nothing other than the term 'type setting', which of course we all interpret as setting of type face and font.

Even on the modern websites there doesn't seem to be a verb used to describe it.

So I'll nominate the verb typograving, only because it doesn't sound as clumsy as typographing.

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Bobstamp

13 Feb 2015
10:49:58pm

I think I understand the difference between engraving and typography as they relate to stamp production:

• In engraving, the design is first cut into metal or some other substrate. The cut-away areas are then filled with ink, paper is pressed onto the surface, and the ink transfers to the paper, creating a design that is raised above the surface of the paper.

• In typography, the substrate is cut away from what will be the design of the stamp, creating a raised surface that is like the final design of the stamp. That raised surface is inked, paper is pressed onto it, and the ink transfers to the paper, creating a design that is raised, but not to the extent of that of an engraved image.

If my understanding is correct, there doesn't seem to be much difference in the final product. Slania might disagree, and I do appreciate the incredible detail of finely engraved stamps. If I am wrong, I hope that someone corrects me.

Now the question that sent me here: Is it correct to say that an artist engraves the initial design of a stamp that will be typographed?

Bob

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14 Feb 2015
05:58:47am

re: Understanding typography

Bob,
According to the APS text book on printing methods, the following is offered:
Typography:
1. Possible spread prints--a showing of heavily inked edges or haloes around the periphery of lines, dots, etc.
2. Lines have a tendency to mash, bulge, distort during printing.
3. May show relief embossing on reverse side of substrate.
Line Engraving:
1. Generally sharp detail with no spreading of image or ridge of ink.
2. Best tonal reproduction because it can transfer many variations to the thickness of ink thus providing relatively strong rich tones.
3. Raised feel to prints; this can also be seen under magnification and oblique lighting.
4. No screen patterns.
5. May show debossing on reverse side.

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Bobstamp

14 Feb 2015
05:10:49pm

re: Understanding typography

That's a useful description. But what verb does one use in describing the act of creating the artwork for a typographed stamp?

Here's a fictitious telephone call:

Caller: I'd like to speak to Slania.

Mrs. Slania: I'm sorry, he can't come to the phone. He's busy engraving.

So, what would the conversation be if Slania hadn't been an engraver, but a typographer?:

Caller: I'd like to speak to Slania.

Mrs. Slania: I'm sorry, he can't come to the phone. He's busy typographing.

That second response just doesn't seem useful. Maybe there is no useful vocabulary for the process of creating the art for a typographed stamp, and I'm just chasing my tail!

Bob

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14 Feb 2015
06:48:43pm

re: Understanding typography

That's certainly a difficult one to answer. I can find nothing other than the term 'type setting', which of course we all interpret as setting of type face and font.

Even on the modern websites there doesn't seem to be a verb used to describe it.

So I'll nominate the verb typograving, only because it doesn't sound as clumsy as typographing.

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