Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
You can get the same stamps on SOR for just pennies each.
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These are simple revenues, and not worth anywhere near the asking price:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-postage-stamps-from-1890-/261876734002?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf911d832
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10:50:29pm
Geez, if I was cataloguing my collection on these prices, my collection would be worth several million dollars.
These sellers wouldn't know a "rare" stamp if it slapped them in the face!
Oh if only I could be that dishonest and find someone that gullible - my modest collection would take care of me for the rest of my life in luxury!
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They will either eventually find someone to "take the bait" or figure out that they are not worth nearly what they think they are.
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They are posted on the StampSmarter.com "wall of shame" run by Bill Weiss & others.
They should get the message soon.
I suggest others join & help. I have posted over 50 forgeries & most have been removed.
One of the better known "sellers" has over 250 postings for US stamps alone. Unfortunately his "auctions" sell so quickly most get sold.
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A seller far out of their element. His other auctions are all $10 computer thingies. Probably found those stamps somewhere and thinks he has the last ones in the world!
It happens all the time, not long ago one of my model car friends brought me a handful of old property deeds with revenues on them. Interesting to have, but I had to advise him that he wasn't retiring on them! The general public has no idea the vast quantities of stamps that have been saved over the years!
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Nelson,
Where do you find the "wall of shame" on the Stamp Smarter web site?
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Regarding the listing of the French revenues, I did contact the seller. His response was that he is aware of what he is doing, and he offered a "hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" snicker in conclusion.
So, Anglo is correct in his observation.
One problem is that to buy the $20,000 lot, and then file a complaint with eBay to try to get that back due to misrepresentation is a big risk. More than likely, the seller will withdraw the $20,000 from PayPal as soon as he gets it. eBay won't have anything to draw upon to get the money back to the buyer.
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If someone bid on these lots, and didn't pay, what's the worst that could happen? I'm thinking it will frustrate the sham artist seller, and the worst thing might be that buyer ID gets suspended.
Just thinking out loud. No intention to bid!
Peter
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Perhaps not, if the buyer could explain to eBay that payment was not made due to false information in the item listing, and finding out that the stamps were not as they were portrayed to be. In the case of the French revenue stamps, one could claim from the listing:
- the stamps are not postage stamps, but tax stamps
- the stamps are not rare
- the stamps are not unique
Also trying to think out loud. Would be an interesting question to ask eBay.
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I just talked to eBay about a situation like this.
The buyer has to pay for the item purchased. When the item is received, the buyer can open a complaint on the seller. In this case it would be for "Item not as described". Ebay will investigate, and using the French Postage Stamp lot as an example, will refund the buyer the purchase price (plus shipping, if any), when the item has been returned to and received by the seller.
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04:14:05pm
Salesman's puffery is basically a statement, usually of opinion, that is s such that no reasonable person would accept it as fact.
It can become fraud if the statement is an outright verifiable lie.
To my thinking no reasonable person over the age of diapering would believe that those junk items are worth what is being asked.
But as is often quoted; "There is a fool born every minute."
By the way, one of those sellers has a 96.7% rating.
That alone would make me thrice shy were I to consider making a bid.
Fools have kept a whole sector of Nigerian criminal element in wingtips for years, so I suppose someone will bite.
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09:24:33pm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-International-Postage-Stamps-Collection-930-PCS-/181705550101?
You can get the same stamps on SOR for just pennies each.
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09:28:24pm
re: Reason Why You Should Buy Cheap Stamps On StampoRama Instead of eBay
These are simple revenues, and not worth anywhere near the asking price:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-postage-stamps-from-1890-/261876734002?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf911d832
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05 May 2015
10:50:29pm
re: Reason Why You Should Buy Cheap Stamps On StampoRama Instead of eBay
Geez, if I was cataloguing my collection on these prices, my collection would be worth several million dollars.
These sellers wouldn't know a "rare" stamp if it slapped them in the face!
Oh if only I could be that dishonest and find someone that gullible - my modest collection would take care of me for the rest of my life in luxury!
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re: Reason Why You Should Buy Cheap Stamps On StampoRama Instead of eBay
They will either eventually find someone to "take the bait" or figure out that they are not worth nearly what they think they are.
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07:20:39am
re: Reason Why You Should Buy Cheap Stamps On StampoRama Instead of eBay
They are posted on the StampSmarter.com "wall of shame" run by Bill Weiss & others.
They should get the message soon.
I suggest others join & help. I have posted over 50 forgeries & most have been removed.
One of the better known "sellers" has over 250 postings for US stamps alone. Unfortunately his "auctions" sell so quickly most get sold.
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re: Reason Why You Should Buy Cheap Stamps On StampoRama Instead of eBay
A seller far out of their element. His other auctions are all $10 computer thingies. Probably found those stamps somewhere and thinks he has the last ones in the world!
It happens all the time, not long ago one of my model car friends brought me a handful of old property deeds with revenues on them. Interesting to have, but I had to advise him that he wasn't retiring on them! The general public has no idea the vast quantities of stamps that have been saved over the years!
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re: Reason Why You Should Buy Cheap Stamps On StampoRama Instead of eBay
Nelson,
Where do you find the "wall of shame" on the Stamp Smarter web site?
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01:08:47pm
re: Reason Why You Should Buy Cheap Stamps On StampoRama Instead of eBay
Regarding the listing of the French revenues, I did contact the seller. His response was that he is aware of what he is doing, and he offered a "hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" snicker in conclusion.
So, Anglo is correct in his observation.
One problem is that to buy the $20,000 lot, and then file a complaint with eBay to try to get that back due to misrepresentation is a big risk. More than likely, the seller will withdraw the $20,000 from PayPal as soon as he gets it. eBay won't have anything to draw upon to get the money back to the buyer.
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01:31:40pm
re: Reason Why You Should Buy Cheap Stamps On StampoRama Instead of eBay
If someone bid on these lots, and didn't pay, what's the worst that could happen? I'm thinking it will frustrate the sham artist seller, and the worst thing might be that buyer ID gets suspended.
Just thinking out loud. No intention to bid!
Peter
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03:07:46pm
re: Reason Why You Should Buy Cheap Stamps On StampoRama Instead of eBay
Perhaps not, if the buyer could explain to eBay that payment was not made due to false information in the item listing, and finding out that the stamps were not as they were portrayed to be. In the case of the French revenue stamps, one could claim from the listing:
- the stamps are not postage stamps, but tax stamps
- the stamps are not rare
- the stamps are not unique
Also trying to think out loud. Would be an interesting question to ask eBay.
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03:41:54pm
re: Reason Why You Should Buy Cheap Stamps On StampoRama Instead of eBay
I just talked to eBay about a situation like this.
The buyer has to pay for the item purchased. When the item is received, the buyer can open a complaint on the seller. In this case it would be for "Item not as described". Ebay will investigate, and using the French Postage Stamp lot as an example, will refund the buyer the purchase price (plus shipping, if any), when the item has been returned to and received by the seller.
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06 May 2015
04:14:05pm
re: Reason Why You Should Buy Cheap Stamps On StampoRama Instead of eBay
Salesman's puffery is basically a statement, usually of opinion, that is s such that no reasonable person would accept it as fact.
It can become fraud if the statement is an outright verifiable lie.
To my thinking no reasonable person over the age of diapering would believe that those junk items are worth what is being asked.
But as is often quoted; "There is a fool born every minute."
By the way, one of those sellers has a 96.7% rating.
That alone would make me thrice shy were I to consider making a bid.
Fools have kept a whole sector of Nigerian criminal element in wingtips for years, so I suppose someone will bite.
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