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United States/Covers & Postmarks : Orangeburg coil quandry

 

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gslaten

13 Apr 2016
01:40:11am
Looking through some coil covers I have had for many years I came across one that had an Orangeburg cancel, and it rang a bell. Searching on Google brought me considerable information about the "Orangeburg Coil". Comparing my cover to one that sold in the Robert A Siegel auction of the Zoellner collection http://www.siegelauctions.com/enc/orangeburg.htm I found some similarities. My first thought is "fake". Someone along the way wrote the "388" and "SL watermark" in pencil on the front. It is perf 12 so the stamp is either SC353 (DL watermark) or SC388 (SL watermark).

In the photo below, the Zoellner cover is on the top (white) and my cover is the lower one (blue).

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My quandry is whether this cover is worth having evaluated by an expertizing service or should I just put it back in the album. I am concerned with the lack of the year date.

Thanks for all advice and comments.


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michael78651

13 Apr 2016
01:58:57am
re: Orangeburg coil quandry

The "Orangeburg Coil" refers solely to Scott #389 as that was the only location that was known to have used the stamp.

Use of #388 was not limited to only Orangeburg.

One thing to do before deciding whether to submit your cover for expertization is to find a bonafide coil and place it alongside of the stamp on your cover to check for vertical height. Coil stamps never have "jumbo" margins. They were cut to specifics so that the coil rolls would fit in coil dispensers.

Do not presume that the stamp is Scott #388, because of the writing on the envelope. Also, do not presume that it is Scott #353, although that is more plausible. Scott warns that stamps claimed to be Scott #388 are often privately perforated examples of Scott #384, or trimmed examples of Scott #375. Before you can begin to consider it to possibly be a #388, you will have to eliminate the more probable alternatives.

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13 Apr 2016
03:45:01am
re: Orangeburg coil quandry

I like the way someone was considerate enough to draw an error toward the stamp, lest anyone think Scott 388 refers to the address.


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13 Apr 2016
03:29:44pm
re: Orangeburg coil quandry

Although not the right one you can still say you have an Orageburgh coil. It cats as you must know for $2500 on cover, so I would say it would be worth getting expertized. Seems a prior owner decided it was a 388. Not the kind of thing you would find in a dollar box unless the seller knew something. You must have paid some good money to get it?

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gslaten

13 Apr 2016
04:03:56pm
re: Orangeburg coil quandry

Thanks for the comments and advice...no, I think it must have come with a large box of miscellaneous covers I picked up at auction in the 70's. I am sure I didn't pay much of anything for it.




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gslaten

13 Apr 2016
01:40:11am

Looking through some coil covers I have had for many years I came across one that had an Orangeburg cancel, and it rang a bell. Searching on Google brought me considerable information about the "Orangeburg Coil". Comparing my cover to one that sold in the Robert A Siegel auction of the Zoellner collection http://www.siegelauctions.com/enc/orangeburg.htm I found some similarities. My first thought is "fake". Someone along the way wrote the "388" and "SL watermark" in pencil on the front. It is perf 12 so the stamp is either SC353 (DL watermark) or SC388 (SL watermark).

In the photo below, the Zoellner cover is on the top (white) and my cover is the lower one (blue).

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My quandry is whether this cover is worth having evaluated by an expertizing service or should I just put it back in the album. I am concerned with the lack of the year date.

Thanks for all advice and comments.


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michael78651

13 Apr 2016
01:58:57am

re: Orangeburg coil quandry

The "Orangeburg Coil" refers solely to Scott #389 as that was the only location that was known to have used the stamp.

Use of #388 was not limited to only Orangeburg.

One thing to do before deciding whether to submit your cover for expertization is to find a bonafide coil and place it alongside of the stamp on your cover to check for vertical height. Coil stamps never have "jumbo" margins. They were cut to specifics so that the coil rolls would fit in coil dispensers.

Do not presume that the stamp is Scott #388, because of the writing on the envelope. Also, do not presume that it is Scott #353, although that is more plausible. Scott warns that stamps claimed to be Scott #388 are often privately perforated examples of Scott #384, or trimmed examples of Scott #375. Before you can begin to consider it to possibly be a #388, you will have to eliminate the more probable alternatives.

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youpiao

13 Apr 2016
03:45:01am

re: Orangeburg coil quandry

I like the way someone was considerate enough to draw an error toward the stamp, lest anyone think Scott 388 refers to the address.


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13 Apr 2016
03:29:44pm

re: Orangeburg coil quandry

Although not the right one you can still say you have an Orageburgh coil. It cats as you must know for $2500 on cover, so I would say it would be worth getting expertized. Seems a prior owner decided it was a 388. Not the kind of thing you would find in a dollar box unless the seller knew something. You must have paid some good money to get it?

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gslaten

13 Apr 2016
04:03:56pm

re: Orangeburg coil quandry

Thanks for the comments and advice...no, I think it must have come with a large box of miscellaneous covers I picked up at auction in the 70's. I am sure I didn't pay much of anything for it.




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