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Oceania/Australia : Identifying QE II pre-decimal white and cream papers.

 

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Rob1956
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My clan Coat-of-Arms Scotland

04 Jun 2016
04:24:39am
There is a difference between white and cream paper types as seen in the images. The cream is in the foreground.

The Cream (underneath) and White (above). Notice the dull white (cream) appearance of the borders and the image being a lighter colour, more like a reddish-brown. The white paper shows a darker reddish-brown appearance of the image and transparency at the back.

1961 5/- Northern Territory Cattle Industry - Cream & White paper.

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1964 5/- Northern Territory Cattle Industry - Cream & White paper.

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The dull cream colour is shown more predominately from the back.

1964 10/- Matthew Flinders - Cream & White paper.

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1965 10/- Matthew Flinders - Cream & White paper.

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1964 £1 George Bass - Cream & White paper.

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[b]1964 £1 George Bass - Cream & White paper.

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04 Jun 2016
04:56:31am
re: Identifying QE II pre-decimal white and cream papers.

The differences are subtle in some of them, but quite identifiable once you put them side by side like you have done.

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Rob1956
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04 Jun 2016
05:23:07am
re: Identifying QE II pre-decimal white and cream papers.

Hi David

If you use this method on a black background you will find it much easier to identify the papers.

I'm happy that my thread is helping.

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malcolm197

26 Jun 2016
10:25:35pm
re: Identifying QE II pre-decimal white and cream papers.

Does not the white turn to cream on prolonged exposure to light ( or even to the air )? I have some Australian stamps in my album which I annotated as white when I mounted them but they now appear the same as the rest ! - or do I need to go to Specsavers? ( UK viewers will get the reference ).

Malcolm

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Rob1956
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27 Jun 2016
02:47:23am
re: Identifying QE II pre-decimal white and cream papers.

"Does not the white turn to cream on prolonged exposure to light ( or even to the air )? I have some Australian stamps in my album which I annotated as white when I mounted them but they now appear the same as the rest ! - or do I need to go to Specsavers? ( UK viewers will get the reference ).

Malcolm"


Prolonged exposure to light can affect the white by giving it a cream appearance, but you can still be able to tell if the discoloured stamp is cream or not. Also such exposure to light onto the cream stamp will not alter its non-transparent reverse, only the white has the transparent reverse.
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malcolm197

06 Jul 2016
07:47:50am
re: Identifying QE II pre-decimal white and cream papers.

Thanks for that.

I have noticed with several stamps ( not just Australian ) that some differences in paper which I remember as being quite distinctive at the time, now appear to be the same.

I can testify that the second stamp is what it was, but I can't state that the first stamp is not a mutated one that was unnoticed at the time.

And I thought that the only problems I had were Machins!!

Malcolm

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Andrew_McPhee

24 Jan 2021
07:19:12pm
re: Identifying QE II pre-decimal white and cream papers.

Really useful info, thanks very much Rob.

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Rob1956

My clan Coat-of-Arms Scotland
04 Jun 2016
04:24:39am

There is a difference between white and cream paper types as seen in the images. The cream is in the foreground.

The Cream (underneath) and White (above). Notice the dull white (cream) appearance of the borders and the image being a lighter colour, more like a reddish-brown. The white paper shows a darker reddish-brown appearance of the image and transparency at the back.

1961 5/- Northern Territory Cattle Industry - Cream & White paper.

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1964 5/- Northern Territory Cattle Industry - Cream & White paper.

Image Not Found


The dull cream colour is shown more predominately from the back.

1964 10/- Matthew Flinders - Cream & White paper.

Image Not Found

1965 10/- Matthew Flinders - Cream & White paper.

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1964 £1 George Bass - Cream & White paper.

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[b]1964 £1 George Bass - Cream & White paper.

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damichab

04 Jun 2016
04:56:31am

re: Identifying QE II pre-decimal white and cream papers.

The differences are subtle in some of them, but quite identifiable once you put them side by side like you have done.

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My clan Coat-of-Arms Scotland
04 Jun 2016
05:23:07am

re: Identifying QE II pre-decimal white and cream papers.

Hi David

If you use this method on a black background you will find it much easier to identify the papers.

I'm happy that my thread is helping.

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"Specialised Collector of Australian Pre-Decimal & Decimal Stamps"
malcolm197

26 Jun 2016
10:25:35pm

re: Identifying QE II pre-decimal white and cream papers.

Does not the white turn to cream on prolonged exposure to light ( or even to the air )? I have some Australian stamps in my album which I annotated as white when I mounted them but they now appear the same as the rest ! - or do I need to go to Specsavers? ( UK viewers will get the reference ).

Malcolm

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Rob1956

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27 Jun 2016
02:47:23am

re: Identifying QE II pre-decimal white and cream papers.

"Does not the white turn to cream on prolonged exposure to light ( or even to the air )? I have some Australian stamps in my album which I annotated as white when I mounted them but they now appear the same as the rest ! - or do I need to go to Specsavers? ( UK viewers will get the reference ).

Malcolm"


Prolonged exposure to light can affect the white by giving it a cream appearance, but you can still be able to tell if the discoloured stamp is cream or not. Also such exposure to light onto the cream stamp will not alter its non-transparent reverse, only the white has the transparent reverse.
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"Specialised Collector of Australian Pre-Decimal & Decimal Stamps"
malcolm197

06 Jul 2016
07:47:50am

re: Identifying QE II pre-decimal white and cream papers.

Thanks for that.

I have noticed with several stamps ( not just Australian ) that some differences in paper which I remember as being quite distinctive at the time, now appear to be the same.

I can testify that the second stamp is what it was, but I can't state that the first stamp is not a mutated one that was unnoticed at the time.

And I thought that the only problems I had were Machins!!

Malcolm

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Andrew_McPhee

24 Jan 2021
07:19:12pm

re: Identifying QE II pre-decimal white and cream papers.

Really useful info, thanks very much Rob.

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