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Oceania/Other : New Zealand 1855 vs 1862 Issue

 

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biggeorge
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28 Oct 2016
02:04:32pm
Recently I came across a pen-canceled copy of the 1sh imperforate Chalon. I am having a bit of a disagreement with a fellow collector about the catalog number for the stamp.

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I am of the opinion that it is Scott #6. Another collector insists that it is from the 1862 issue and is Scott #15. The first is from the 1855 issue and is listed as being on blue paper with no watermark. The 1862 issue (according to my interpretation of the Scott Catalog) is on white paper and bears the large star watermark.

I can not find a watermark on the stamp I have. But after breathing in the fumes looking for the watermark, who knows what I can see! The big quewstion revolves around the paper color of the 1862 issue. If it is white paper, then this stamp is from the 1855 issue and I win a lunch! Can anyone provide help?

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George (aka biggeorge)

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Ningpo
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28 Oct 2016
07:29:14pm
re: New Zealand 1855 vs 1862 Issue

You may have to throw the 1858 issue into the pot.

I only have Gibbons (2015) but it lists SG16; 1s. dull emerald-green (Hard or soft white paper. No watermark):

£20,000 mint
£ 1,800 used

There is also the 1857-1863 Sg17; 1s. blue-green

£17,000 mint
£ 1,800 used

Gibbons states that the 1855 issue of the 1s. is in a yellow-green colour with large star watermark, on blue paper. However, a footnote suggests that bluing can be washed out, producing a white paper.


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29 Oct 2016
03:21:08pm
re: New Zealand 1855 vs 1862 Issue

Thanks for the answer! But the stamp I have is definitely on blue paper. I compared it to the 1862 (with watermark) and other early NZ issues. I believe that I have the 1855 issue. Albeit with a pen cancel. Maybe it will take a trip to the APS or Philatelic Foundation for a certificate.

George

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29 Oct 2016
04:06:09pm

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re: New Zealand 1855 vs 1862 Issue

It would need a certificate to be saleable anyway.

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10 Jun 2018
08:31:43pm
re: New Zealand 1855 vs 1862 Issue

From what I can see and the fact that it has not got the Large Star Watermark, in my opinion, it is the John Richardson printing on blue paper, SG 6, printed at Auckland New Zealand in November 1855. It was issued imperforate.
Pen Cancellation was allowed to be used where a Post Office had not been supplied with a Perkins Bacon Numeral obliterator. Even if a Datestamp had been issued it was not allowed to cancel the adhesive postage stamp.
If a certificate is required, this can be obtained from The Royal Philatelic Society of New Zealand

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biggeorge

28 Oct 2016
02:04:32pm

Recently I came across a pen-canceled copy of the 1sh imperforate Chalon. I am having a bit of a disagreement with a fellow collector about the catalog number for the stamp.

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I am of the opinion that it is Scott #6. Another collector insists that it is from the 1862 issue and is Scott #15. The first is from the 1855 issue and is listed as being on blue paper with no watermark. The 1862 issue (according to my interpretation of the Scott Catalog) is on white paper and bears the large star watermark.

I can not find a watermark on the stamp I have. But after breathing in the fumes looking for the watermark, who knows what I can see! The big quewstion revolves around the paper color of the 1862 issue. If it is white paper, then this stamp is from the 1855 issue and I win a lunch! Can anyone provide help?

Thanks,

George (aka biggeorge)

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Ningpo

28 Oct 2016
07:29:14pm

re: New Zealand 1855 vs 1862 Issue

You may have to throw the 1858 issue into the pot.

I only have Gibbons (2015) but it lists SG16; 1s. dull emerald-green (Hard or soft white paper. No watermark):

£20,000 mint
£ 1,800 used

There is also the 1857-1863 Sg17; 1s. blue-green

£17,000 mint
£ 1,800 used

Gibbons states that the 1855 issue of the 1s. is in a yellow-green colour with large star watermark, on blue paper. However, a footnote suggests that bluing can be washed out, producing a white paper.


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29 Oct 2016
03:21:08pm

re: New Zealand 1855 vs 1862 Issue

Thanks for the answer! But the stamp I have is definitely on blue paper. I compared it to the 1862 (with watermark) and other early NZ issues. I believe that I have the 1855 issue. Albeit with a pen cancel. Maybe it will take a trip to the APS or Philatelic Foundation for a certificate.

George

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re: New Zealand 1855 vs 1862 Issue

It would need a certificate to be saleable anyway.

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10 Jun 2018
08:31:43pm

re: New Zealand 1855 vs 1862 Issue

From what I can see and the fact that it has not got the Large Star Watermark, in my opinion, it is the John Richardson printing on blue paper, SG 6, printed at Auckland New Zealand in November 1855. It was issued imperforate.
Pen Cancellation was allowed to be used where a Post Office had not been supplied with a Perkins Bacon Numeral obliterator. Even if a Datestamp had been issued it was not allowed to cancel the adhesive postage stamp.
If a certificate is required, this can be obtained from The Royal Philatelic Society of New Zealand

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