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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Hinged Unused Etc.

 

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Stampme

20 Dec 2016
12:34:00pm
If I offer a stamp that is unused mint and thus has been hinged, I look at the back of the stamp to determine (hopefully) an accurate description:

a. faint section where gum shows the mark of a hinge no longer present

b. faint section where gum shows the mark of a hinge no longer present plus additional gum removed, a disturbance probably caused by wet gum around the hinge area sticking to the back of the album.

c. hinge remnant still stuck to the gum.

d. hinge remnant still stuck to the gum plus additional gum removed, a disturbance probably caused by wet gum around the hinge area sticking to the back of the album.

e. heavy hinge remnant (usually an older hinge) or remnants, one placed atop the other plus additional gum removed, a disturbance probably caused by wet gum around the hinge area sticking to the back of the album.

f. all of the above with paper adhesions, likely from album.

g. all of the above with thin present.

Am I leaving anything out?

I don't think that the price offered is an indicator of the above--if any of the above except for maybe the letter a, the seller should explain.

Am I wrong?

Bruce


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20 Dec 2016
12:49:26pm
re: Hinged Unused Etc.

Well, as long as you ask, I would change {f} and {g} to "Any of the above", but that's me.

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20 Dec 2016
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re: Hinged Unused Etc.

Due to the difficulties of meeting peoples perceptions of LH, VLH, H, HR, HHR and etc. I have settled on MH if it has been hinged and MNH if it hasn't. Any sign of missing gum, paper adhesions, or too much moisture in applying the hinge I consider a defect. Any bulging and I soak and press and sell as no gum. It keeps things simple.

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Stampme

20 Dec 2016
02:39:16pm
re: Hinged Unused Etc.

I thought of another one.

h. impression (usually black ink) pick up of the design upon which the stamp was mounted.

Bruce

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20 Dec 2016
04:57:49pm
re: Hinged Unused Etc.

H should mean "Hinged to death". I've gotten some 19th century and early 20th century US stamps that must've been in a dozen different collections over the last century, with many hinge marks on the same stamp! Often more hinge marks than remaining gum.

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20 Dec 2016
06:20:25pm
re: Hinged Unused Etc.

i'm with Carol; if they want more information, they can ask. of course, I don't dabble much in stamps, but the quality of the hinge and its remnant(s) is of little importance to me. If there's a thin, it should be remarked up, but that's damage and not a hinge. or is it a damhinge?

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21 Dec 2016
03:06:39pm
re: Hinged Unused Etc.

As a seller you should provide as complete information as you are able.

I don't know if you meant this, but saying "unused mint" really says very little. If hinged, you need to at mention the hinge or that it was previously hinged. If gum is disturbed you should mention that.

Seller should explain all situations, your a through g. Is the seller required? No.

Providing a decent high resolution scan of front and back is often enough to expose some of the situations you describe, but full information can only be good for you as a seller and the buyer as well.

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Stampme

20 Dec 2016
12:34:00pm

If I offer a stamp that is unused mint and thus has been hinged, I look at the back of the stamp to determine (hopefully) an accurate description:

a. faint section where gum shows the mark of a hinge no longer present

b. faint section where gum shows the mark of a hinge no longer present plus additional gum removed, a disturbance probably caused by wet gum around the hinge area sticking to the back of the album.

c. hinge remnant still stuck to the gum.

d. hinge remnant still stuck to the gum plus additional gum removed, a disturbance probably caused by wet gum around the hinge area sticking to the back of the album.

e. heavy hinge remnant (usually an older hinge) or remnants, one placed atop the other plus additional gum removed, a disturbance probably caused by wet gum around the hinge area sticking to the back of the album.

f. all of the above with paper adhesions, likely from album.

g. all of the above with thin present.

Am I leaving anything out?

I don't think that the price offered is an indicator of the above--if any of the above except for maybe the letter a, the seller should explain.

Am I wrong?

Bruce


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20 Dec 2016
12:49:26pm

re: Hinged Unused Etc.

Well, as long as you ask, I would change {f} and {g} to "Any of the above", but that's me.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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re: Hinged Unused Etc.

Due to the difficulties of meeting peoples perceptions of LH, VLH, H, HR, HHR and etc. I have settled on MH if it has been hinged and MNH if it hasn't. Any sign of missing gum, paper adhesions, or too much moisture in applying the hinge I consider a defect. Any bulging and I soak and press and sell as no gum. It keeps things simple.

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Stampme

20 Dec 2016
02:39:16pm

re: Hinged Unused Etc.

I thought of another one.

h. impression (usually black ink) pick up of the design upon which the stamp was mounted.

Bruce

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Tom in Exton, PA
20 Dec 2016
04:57:49pm

re: Hinged Unused Etc.

H should mean "Hinged to death". I've gotten some 19th century and early 20th century US stamps that must've been in a dozen different collections over the last century, with many hinge marks on the same stamp! Often more hinge marks than remaining gum.

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20 Dec 2016
06:20:25pm

re: Hinged Unused Etc.

i'm with Carol; if they want more information, they can ask. of course, I don't dabble much in stamps, but the quality of the hinge and its remnant(s) is of little importance to me. If there's a thin, it should be remarked up, but that's damage and not a hinge. or is it a damhinge?

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21 Dec 2016
03:06:39pm

re: Hinged Unused Etc.

As a seller you should provide as complete information as you are able.

I don't know if you meant this, but saying "unused mint" really says very little. If hinged, you need to at mention the hinge or that it was previously hinged. If gum is disturbed you should mention that.

Seller should explain all situations, your a through g. Is the seller required? No.

Providing a decent high resolution scan of front and back is often enough to expose some of the situations you describe, but full information can only be good for you as a seller and the buyer as well.

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