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http://www.ebay.com/itm/381915380471?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Look below the number "12". Looks like a faint cancel. I would suspect this stamp has been cleaned and regummed.
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It's an altered stamp, in many ways...
The vendor is very well-known for ignoring stamp alterations in their listing description. They are focused on sales volume, not accuracy.
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I'm getting vertigo trying to follow that "straight" right edge.
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"Look below the number "12". Looks like a faint cancel."
Looks more like a tear to me. Look at the backside image.
"Note that the listing title does not say "Original Gum," it says "with gum.""
Even more telling, look at the details of the listing. They claim:
"MINT: Unused with Gum, Maybe Hinged, could be regum."
Seriously??? Could be a regum and you're calling it MINT??? It's POSSIBLE it's unused, but "mint" and "regum" don't belong in the same description. This is a notoriously disreputable seller. I bought something from them once and had to send it back. I thought it was a mistake, but then started following their auctions and saw that they often offered bogus material. They count on most buyers to not know the difference and refund the purchases of those that do. Nice little racket.
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Sorry, but that's not a detail of the listing. The section you are quoting is their section for defining general terms as they apply to all listings. Specifically, they are saying that when a listing says "Mint" it means "Unused with Gum, Maybe Hinged, could be regum".
Sounds reasonable to me as a caveat, but this is not the description. The only description associated with this listing is the title and the pics.
Granted the title now reads as "nystamps US Stamp # 117 Mint (Unused with Gum, Maybe Hinged, could be regum) with Gum H $1900"
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I also not like the fact the images are so small especially the rear.
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Good to know about that seller... this may be a bit off topic, but is there a way to block particular sellers from showing up in my searches? I'm slowly finding out there are particular sellers (such as this one) that should be avoided at all costs.
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While surfing thru the seller's store, I found mamy stamps with the same type of edge distortions.
Instead of scanning, they are apparently using a hand held camera to provide their pictures ... indicitive of the assembly line approach to their marketing.
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Between 3pm yesterday and 3pm today, this seller increased his feedback score by 107.
Even more impressive is that any EBay seller here knows that many buyers don't bother to do feedback.
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Nystamps does a high volume business for sure. Buyer should examine carefully, but because of the volume they make ID mistakes of all types so there is potential for bargains.
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Why are we tearing apart a dealer that I regularly buy from here?
Talking about a major dealer who has a total of 219,900 positive feedback. Working harder than anyone here he averages 7,800 positive feedback a month, with only 2 negatives and 14 neutrals, most of which appear to be nonsense.
He lists everything starting at a penny and provides front and rear scans. People can judge and bid accordingly. His policy is a full refund upon return for any reason. Shipping is either free or $1.99 on most items. He does combine shipping for multiple items. He ships quickly and wrapped well.
I have bought a lot of very nice stamps at reasonable prices. I bid fairly low and am outbid most of the time. He sends emails to his customers guiding them to his auctions on a regular basis so he has quite a following. His stuff often doesn't go cheap.
If indeed someone isn't educated enough to spot issues on high priced stamps, they shouldn't be buying that material.
It seems to work well for 7,800 people a month. Let's see you all do that volume better!
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Some buyers have a seller they love. Other buyers have a seller they love to hate. We all have our reasons. Ironically, sometimes the seller is one and the same.
One of my favorite sellers gets frequently chided by a member on another board. Fine with me. Less competition when I bid.
Nothing wrong with being "informed" about both stamp and seller. Although sometimes ignorance is bliss. Enjoy what you buy, because it's your money. Don't like the stamp (or the seller), then don't buy. Like the stamp/seller, buy happily. Just that simple.
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I agree with Tom, I have bought from this dealer before and have not had any problems with my purchases. I have added many Canada and US stamps to my collection from this dealer. If I have questions about a stamp I will email the seller and ask my question. Have you expressed your concerns with this dealer before you posted the auction on this site? What was their response? Just wondering.
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Have you expressed your concerns with this dealer before you posted the auction on this site? What was their response? Just wondering.
No, I did not contact the dealer. If he had said that it was genuine, I still would have been seeking more expert validation for my concern that it was a possible perforation of a proof.
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I sent a message to Ny via Ebay asking if the stamp had been cleaned and re-gummed, no reply and the question did not show up as having been asked on the item page.
The message was sent at 11.34 on the 12th. January.
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Anglophile, I did not expect an answer but the question should, in my opinion, have appeared in the questions asked section of the listing. This would have possibly alerted prospective purchasers to look a little more closely.
All water under the bridge now as sale ended.
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I just sent a question to NYStamps using the question link at the bottom of the listing page regarding a stamp on their site and received a reply in twenty minuets letting me know that they would check the stamp for me. My question did not show up on the listing though. I'll let you know if they follow up a further response regarding my question.
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"...but the question should, in my opinion, have appeared in the questions asked section of the listing."
Questions never appear in the listing until (1) the seller responds to them, *AND* (2) the seller agrees that the Q&A should appear to the public, as opposed to a private response being sent back to the questioner.
This is actually for good reason, as the question function is frequently used for discussions not relevant to the public, e.g., asking questions about payment and shipping, offers, other terms, requests for more/higher images, etc.
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Was thinking of bidding on this one, but top and right side perfs make me suspect a re-perfed proof. Opinions?
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Look below the number "12". Looks like a faint cancel. I would suspect this stamp has been cleaned and regummed.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
It's an altered stamp, in many ways...
The vendor is very well-known for ignoring stamp alterations in their listing description. They are focused on sales volume, not accuracy.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
I'm getting vertigo trying to follow that "straight" right edge.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
"Look below the number "12". Looks like a faint cancel."
Looks more like a tear to me. Look at the backside image.
"Note that the listing title does not say "Original Gum," it says "with gum.""
Even more telling, look at the details of the listing. They claim:
"MINT: Unused with Gum, Maybe Hinged, could be regum."
Seriously??? Could be a regum and you're calling it MINT??? It's POSSIBLE it's unused, but "mint" and "regum" don't belong in the same description. This is a notoriously disreputable seller. I bought something from them once and had to send it back. I thought it was a mistake, but then started following their auctions and saw that they often offered bogus material. They count on most buyers to not know the difference and refund the purchases of those that do. Nice little racket.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
Sorry, but that's not a detail of the listing. The section you are quoting is their section for defining general terms as they apply to all listings. Specifically, they are saying that when a listing says "Mint" it means "Unused with Gum, Maybe Hinged, could be regum".
Sounds reasonable to me as a caveat, but this is not the description. The only description associated with this listing is the title and the pics.
Granted the title now reads as "nystamps US Stamp # 117 Mint (Unused with Gum, Maybe Hinged, could be regum) with Gum H $1900"
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
I also not like the fact the images are so small especially the rear.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
Good to know about that seller... this may be a bit off topic, but is there a way to block particular sellers from showing up in my searches? I'm slowly finding out there are particular sellers (such as this one) that should be avoided at all costs.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
While surfing thru the seller's store, I found mamy stamps with the same type of edge distortions.
Instead of scanning, they are apparently using a hand held camera to provide their pictures ... indicitive of the assembly line approach to their marketing.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
Between 3pm yesterday and 3pm today, this seller increased his feedback score by 107.
Even more impressive is that any EBay seller here knows that many buyers don't bother to do feedback.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
Nystamps does a high volume business for sure. Buyer should examine carefully, but because of the volume they make ID mistakes of all types so there is potential for bargains.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
Why are we tearing apart a dealer that I regularly buy from here?
Talking about a major dealer who has a total of 219,900 positive feedback. Working harder than anyone here he averages 7,800 positive feedback a month, with only 2 negatives and 14 neutrals, most of which appear to be nonsense.
He lists everything starting at a penny and provides front and rear scans. People can judge and bid accordingly. His policy is a full refund upon return for any reason. Shipping is either free or $1.99 on most items. He does combine shipping for multiple items. He ships quickly and wrapped well.
I have bought a lot of very nice stamps at reasonable prices. I bid fairly low and am outbid most of the time. He sends emails to his customers guiding them to his auctions on a regular basis so he has quite a following. His stuff often doesn't go cheap.
If indeed someone isn't educated enough to spot issues on high priced stamps, they shouldn't be buying that material.
It seems to work well for 7,800 people a month. Let's see you all do that volume better!
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
Some buyers have a seller they love. Other buyers have a seller they love to hate. We all have our reasons. Ironically, sometimes the seller is one and the same.
One of my favorite sellers gets frequently chided by a member on another board. Fine with me. Less competition when I bid.
Nothing wrong with being "informed" about both stamp and seller. Although sometimes ignorance is bliss. Enjoy what you buy, because it's your money. Don't like the stamp (or the seller), then don't buy. Like the stamp/seller, buy happily. Just that simple.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
I agree with Tom, I have bought from this dealer before and have not had any problems with my purchases. I have added many Canada and US stamps to my collection from this dealer. If I have questions about a stamp I will email the seller and ask my question. Have you expressed your concerns with this dealer before you posted the auction on this site? What was their response? Just wondering.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
Have you expressed your concerns with this dealer before you posted the auction on this site? What was their response? Just wondering.
No, I did not contact the dealer. If he had said that it was genuine, I still would have been seeking more expert validation for my concern that it was a possible perforation of a proof.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
I sent a message to Ny via Ebay asking if the stamp had been cleaned and re-gummed, no reply and the question did not show up as having been asked on the item page.
The message was sent at 11.34 on the 12th. January.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
Anglophile, I did not expect an answer but the question should, in my opinion, have appeared in the questions asked section of the listing. This would have possibly alerted prospective purchasers to look a little more closely.
All water under the bridge now as sale ended.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
I just sent a question to NYStamps using the question link at the bottom of the listing page regarding a stamp on their site and received a reply in twenty minuets letting me know that they would check the stamp for me. My question did not show up on the listing though. I'll let you know if they follow up a further response regarding my question.
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re: Suspected fake US #117 ...
"...but the question should, in my opinion, have appeared in the questions asked section of the listing."
Questions never appear in the listing until (1) the seller responds to them, *AND* (2) the seller agrees that the Q&A should appear to the public, as opposed to a private response being sent back to the questioner.
This is actually for good reason, as the question function is frequently used for discussions not relevant to the public, e.g., asking questions about payment and shipping, offers, other terms, requests for more/higher images, etc.
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