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United States/Stamps : 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

 

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29 Jan 2017
08:12:01pm
Can somebody help me?

My US album shows two spots for theses stamps.... one from a coil roll of 3000 or 10 000, and one from a roll of 100. The catalogue numbers are 3466 and 3477. The 2017 Scott US Specialised Catalogue states the difference between 3466 and 3477 is the shape of the die-cut corners. Good so far; but which one is from the coil roll of 3000/ 10 000 and which from the coil roll of 100.

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David Giles
Ottawa, Canada
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Al
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30 Jan 2017
07:19:57am
re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

From PNC3.org for this issue,

Corners are rounded. Apparently no difference between coils of 3000 & 10,000.
Coil of 3000, plate 1111 / Coil of 10,000, plate 1111, 2222


I think the usual method is to look at the back numbers but appears this issue did not space them any differently between 3000, 10K rolls.

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30 Jan 2017
09:07:55pm
re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

Thank-you for responding to my question.

So what I understand from this is that the stamps with the rounded corners are from the rolls of 3000 and 10 000. The stamps with the squared corners are from the coil rolls of 100. The next part of the question is which Scott number (3466 and 3477) goes with which stamp?

David

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30 Jan 2017
09:56:10pm
re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

Hi-Ya David!

#3466 has the round corners;

#3477 has the square corners;


this is according to the latest Mystic catalog and also verified by Scott as well.

(A side note: these are 34c, not 32c )







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31 Jan 2017
12:16:17am
re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

To add on to the info that has already been posted... if you have mint stamps (still on the backing paper):

3466: backing paper larger than stamp (i.e., forms border to "frame" stamp)
3477: backing paper same size as stamp (i.e., the stamp die-cutting makes stamps appear "attached/continuous")

When you have a strip, it becomes obvious. But you can still easily spot a #3466 by noting the backing paper is taller/wider than the stamp.

If used stamp or separated off backing, then use the method posted by Randy regarding the corners.

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01 Feb 2017
06:30:30pm
re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

Thank-you, all. Yes, Randy, it is a 34-cent stamp. My error. I have 32-cents on the brain as that was the rate (29- to 32-cents) when I lived in Texas.

I checked my Scott 2012 Pocket Stamp Catalogue (that I use as a checklist) and it does note the rounded and right-angle corners.

I am working with used stamps, as that is how I collect USA.

I still don't know which ones are from the rolls of 3000/10 000 and which are from the rolls of 100.

David in Ottawa, Canada

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02 Feb 2017
07:22:12am
re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

"I still don't know which ones are from the rolls of 3000/10 000 and which are from the rolls of 100."



Yep there are other issues like that. There are some stamps in multiple formats (sheets, coils, and booklet) that once you remove from the liner you do not tell the difference. This is especially true for straight die cuts (not serpentine).





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02 Feb 2017
09:11:08am
re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

Let me muddy the water even more. The below quote from the January 11, 2001 Postal Bulletin indicates that the 3,000 and 10,000 stamp coils would have water activated gum.

The distribution announcement in the February 8th Postal Bulletin also refers to the large coils as having WAG.

Does this mean that the large coils are Scott 3476 (perf.9-3/4 vertical) and Scott 3477 is another 100 stamp coil?

"The Postal Service will issue a Statue of Liberty 34-cent definitive stamp in New York, NY 10199, on February 7, 2001. The stamp, designed by Derry Noyes of Washington, DC, is based on a photograph by Paul Hardy of New York, NY, and goes on sale nationwide February 8, 2001.

This stamp will be issued in six formats: a convertible booklet of 20 (Item Number 669800); a convertible booklet of 10 (Item Number 669500); a vending booklet of 20(Item Number 669000); a self-adhesive coil of 100 (Item Number 771300); a water-activated coil of 10,000 (Item Number 773800); and a water-activated coil of 3,000 (Item Number 773700)."



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02 Feb 2017
11:40:48am
re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

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02 Feb 2017
03:02:38pm
re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

According to that dealer, square corners are from rolls of 100 and round corners are from 3000/10,000 rolls. I would message that dealer and ask what his reference is. Maybe they will be helpful and provide it.

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29 Jan 2017
08:12:01pm

Can somebody help me?

My US album shows two spots for theses stamps.... one from a coil roll of 3000 or 10 000, and one from a roll of 100. The catalogue numbers are 3466 and 3477. The 2017 Scott US Specialised Catalogue states the difference between 3466 and 3477 is the shape of the die-cut corners. Good so far; but which one is from the coil roll of 3000/ 10 000 and which from the coil roll of 100.

Thanks!

David Giles
Ottawa, Canada

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30 Jan 2017
07:19:57am

re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

From PNC3.org for this issue,

Corners are rounded. Apparently no difference between coils of 3000 & 10,000.
Coil of 3000, plate 1111 / Coil of 10,000, plate 1111, 2222


I think the usual method is to look at the back numbers but appears this issue did not space them any differently between 3000, 10K rolls.

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30 Jan 2017
09:07:55pm

re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

Thank-you for responding to my question.

So what I understand from this is that the stamps with the rounded corners are from the rolls of 3000 and 10 000. The stamps with the squared corners are from the coil rolls of 100. The next part of the question is which Scott number (3466 and 3477) goes with which stamp?

David

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30 Jan 2017
09:56:10pm

re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

Hi-Ya David!

#3466 has the round corners;

#3477 has the square corners;


this is according to the latest Mystic catalog and also verified by Scott as well.

(A side note: these are 34c, not 32c )







Randy

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31 Jan 2017
12:16:17am

re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

To add on to the info that has already been posted... if you have mint stamps (still on the backing paper):

3466: backing paper larger than stamp (i.e., forms border to "frame" stamp)
3477: backing paper same size as stamp (i.e., the stamp die-cutting makes stamps appear "attached/continuous")

When you have a strip, it becomes obvious. But you can still easily spot a #3466 by noting the backing paper is taller/wider than the stamp.

If used stamp or separated off backing, then use the method posted by Randy regarding the corners.

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01 Feb 2017
06:30:30pm

re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

Thank-you, all. Yes, Randy, it is a 34-cent stamp. My error. I have 32-cents on the brain as that was the rate (29- to 32-cents) when I lived in Texas.

I checked my Scott 2012 Pocket Stamp Catalogue (that I use as a checklist) and it does note the rounded and right-angle corners.

I am working with used stamps, as that is how I collect USA.

I still don't know which ones are from the rolls of 3000/10 000 and which are from the rolls of 100.

David in Ottawa, Canada

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02 Feb 2017
07:22:12am

re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

"I still don't know which ones are from the rolls of 3000/10 000 and which are from the rolls of 100."



Yep there are other issues like that. There are some stamps in multiple formats (sheets, coils, and booklet) that once you remove from the liner you do not tell the difference. This is especially true for straight die cuts (not serpentine).





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02 Feb 2017
09:11:08am

re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

Let me muddy the water even more. The below quote from the January 11, 2001 Postal Bulletin indicates that the 3,000 and 10,000 stamp coils would have water activated gum.

The distribution announcement in the February 8th Postal Bulletin also refers to the large coils as having WAG.

Does this mean that the large coils are Scott 3476 (perf.9-3/4 vertical) and Scott 3477 is another 100 stamp coil?

"The Postal Service will issue a Statue of Liberty 34-cent definitive stamp in New York, NY 10199, on February 7, 2001. The stamp, designed by Derry Noyes of Washington, DC, is based on a photograph by Paul Hardy of New York, NY, and goes on sale nationwide February 8, 2001.

This stamp will be issued in six formats: a convertible booklet of 20 (Item Number 669800); a convertible booklet of 10 (Item Number 669500); a vending booklet of 20(Item Number 669000); a self-adhesive coil of 100 (Item Number 771300); a water-activated coil of 10,000 (Item Number 773800); and a water-activated coil of 3,000 (Item Number 773700)."



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re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

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02 Feb 2017
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re: 2001 32-cent Statue of Liberty S/A Coil

According to that dealer, square corners are from rolls of 100 and round corners are from 3000/10,000 rolls. I would message that dealer and ask what his reference is. Maybe they will be helpful and provide it.

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