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BenFranklin1902's nice Zeppelin Covers um, covered the later legs of the First Pan-American flight of Graf Zeppelin, in the spring of 1930.
The bridge:
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From Wikipedia:
"The 1930 Pan-American Flight...originated in Friedrichshafen on 18 May and stopped first in Seville before leaving Europe. The Graf Zeppelin arrived in Brazil first at Recife (Pernambuco) docking at Campo do Jiquiá on 22 May where it was greeted by a crowd of more than 15,000 before preceding on to Rio de Janeiro. The airship then flew back north to Lakehurst, NJ, before heading east over the Atlantic on 2 June to return to Germany with another stop in Seville."
Here are a couple of covers from my collection from the first legs of this voyage. The first is a postcard, with the 2RM rate:
Postmarked May 18, 1930, the scheduled departure from Friedrichshafen, with a receiver of May 25, in Rio. (The reverse contains no postal markings but is a manuscript message, dated May 9, I think.)
Now, here's the 4RM rate, for a letter:
I like this cover because it is, apparently, a commercial cover rather than a philatelic cover. And, the REALLY neat thing about it is that it is a virtual twin to the postcard above. Both were cancelled the SAME HOUR in Friedrichshafen, and received identical receiver cancels, in Rio. It cannot be refuted that both items were cancelled by the same clerk, at both ends of the voyage!
Both items bear stamps with the SUDAMERIKA FAHRT overprint, again contributing to their pair status.
For all I know, the two items could have laid against one another in the same mailbag as the airship placidly droned its way across the Atlantic...
That's my story, anyway...
Show us your Zepp covers!
Isn't postal history stimulating?
-Paul
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I also have Baby Zeps!
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And another one, this time from Brazil back to the home office
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This is the only cover I have. 10th American Flight 5th-12th Oct 1936.
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If anyone needs a baby zep, I have a mint spare available for trade.
Dan C.
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Hi. I need help to understand the postage rate for this letter.
Do any collectors have postage rate tables for Zeppelin flights?
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"Hi. I need help to understand the postage rate for this letter."
That is quite a calculation
Postal Rates
The international base rates were RM 0.15 for a postcard and RM 0.25 for a letter.
The airmail surcharge rate was an additional 1.25 RM per 5 grams for Brazil or 1.50 RM per 5 grams to other countries in Latin America.
Registration was an additional RM 0.30
For exactly 25 grams the rate would be 5 x 1.25 RM + 0.25 RM + 0.30 RM = 6.80 RM
This letter was posted with 6,65 RM so your cover would have weighted almost 25 grams
Look at the following sites for more help :
https://slettebo.no/graphics/Zeppelin.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeppelin_mail
https://siegelauctions.com/exhibits/Zepp_1932-1933.pdf
The latter is most interesting, I think
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12:53:05pm
What about the Express service?
More likely 15 or 20 grams plus Express service charge?
Roy
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07:32:51pm
Seeking here to expand on the "C13-C15" topic.
BenFranklin1902's nice Zeppelin Covers um, covered the later legs of the First Pan-American flight of Graf Zeppelin, in the spring of 1930.
The bridge:
"
From Wikipedia:
"The 1930 Pan-American Flight...originated in Friedrichshafen on 18 May and stopped first in Seville before leaving Europe. The Graf Zeppelin arrived in Brazil first at Recife (Pernambuco) docking at Campo do Jiquiá on 22 May where it was greeted by a crowd of more than 15,000 before preceding on to Rio de Janeiro. The airship then flew back north to Lakehurst, NJ, before heading east over the Atlantic on 2 June to return to Germany with another stop in Seville."
Here are a couple of covers from my collection from the first legs of this voyage. The first is a postcard, with the 2RM rate:
Postmarked May 18, 1930, the scheduled departure from Friedrichshafen, with a receiver of May 25, in Rio. (The reverse contains no postal markings but is a manuscript message, dated May 9, I think.)
Now, here's the 4RM rate, for a letter:
I like this cover because it is, apparently, a commercial cover rather than a philatelic cover. And, the REALLY neat thing about it is that it is a virtual twin to the postcard above. Both were cancelled the SAME HOUR in Friedrichshafen, and received identical receiver cancels, in Rio. It cannot be refuted that both items were cancelled by the same clerk, at both ends of the voyage!
Both items bear stamps with the SUDAMERIKA FAHRT overprint, again contributing to their pair status.
For all I know, the two items could have laid against one another in the same mailbag as the airship placidly droned its way across the Atlantic...
That's my story, anyway...
Show us your Zepp covers!
Isn't postal history stimulating?
-Paul
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I also have Baby Zeps!
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And another one, this time from Brazil back to the home office
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This is the only cover I have. 10th American Flight 5th-12th Oct 1936.
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If anyone needs a baby zep, I have a mint spare available for trade.
Dan C.
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05:04:23pm
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Hi. I need help to understand the postage rate for this letter.
Do any collectors have postage rate tables for Zeppelin flights?
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"Hi. I need help to understand the postage rate for this letter."
That is quite a calculation
Postal Rates
The international base rates were RM 0.15 for a postcard and RM 0.25 for a letter.
The airmail surcharge rate was an additional 1.25 RM per 5 grams for Brazil or 1.50 RM per 5 grams to other countries in Latin America.
Registration was an additional RM 0.30
For exactly 25 grams the rate would be 5 x 1.25 RM + 0.25 RM + 0.30 RM = 6.80 RM
This letter was posted with 6,65 RM so your cover would have weighted almost 25 grams
Look at the following sites for more help :
https://slettebo.no/graphics/Zeppelin.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeppelin_mail
https://siegelauctions.com/exhibits/Zepp_1932-1933.pdf
The latter is most interesting, I think
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What about the Express service?
More likely 15 or 20 grams plus Express service charge?
Roy
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