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Middle East/All : Help with the Egypt #1 ERROR

 

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rrraphy
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05 Mar 2018
04:12:15pm
This could be a major error. It is not in my Scott catalog, so any reference help would be appreciated.
This is a Egypt #1, circa 1866, but the o/p on it is that of the Egypt #3.

Been trying to research it, but no luck so far. Anyone here has any clue? Your help would be most appreciated.
rrr....

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jillcrow

05 Mar 2018
06:03:12pm
re: Help with the Egypt #1 ERROR

Perhaps this description has been taken from the Stanley Gibbons catalogue, where Type 1 is the illustration for the 5 para stamp, and Type 3 is the illustration for the overprint inscription for the set.

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rrraphy
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05 Mar 2018
07:56:32pm
re: Help with the Egypt #1 ERROR

I am actually working from a specialized website: http://www.snap-dragon.com/egypt_pre-1900.htm, which shows pictures of every stamp. I must say that I am a bit suspect of the quality and completeness of their information, since they managed to put 2 out of the first 7 images upside down (numbers 3 and 5)! Still it is pretty helpful, if you don't have a detailed specialty reference book to consult.
This area (stamps 1-7) should not be too difficult. The headaches come with the next series, the pyramid and sphinx, and the first and second series of 1867 to 1875, with all the variations of perforations, watermark, printing method and colors....Scott #19-26.

And there is no record of my "Error" stamp, so far I have not seen one..

I must say that I am also a bit confused when I look at the perforations. Any expert wishing to comment?

rrr...

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05 Mar 2018
08:26:55pm
re: Help with the Egypt #1 ERROR

rrraphy, It looks like a forgery to me. Do you have a real #1 that you could scan next to it for comparison? First off the color appears wrong. It should be Dull Green but appears Black. Most of the design elements appear incorrect compared with mine. The funky perfs are also something I've seen on obvious fakes. I would also guess that the paper is rather thick which it should not be.

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06 Mar 2018
11:53:00pm
re: Help with the Egypt #1 ERROR

Mitch I think you are correct. A FAKE!
Color is a bit off, but the perforations are definitely amateurish!
There are also many other differences.

Here are the two stamps side by side:

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07 Mar 2018
04:10:07am
re: Help with the Egypt #1 ERROR

Thanks for posting the two side by side! Happy

I think the most striking difference is in the font of the "5" in the corner.

SG lists two shades of this stamp so don't be too quick to discard any copies that don't look greenish:

- SG 1 grey

- SG 1a greenish grey

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rrraphy

Retired Consultant APS#186030
05 Mar 2018
04:12:15pm

This could be a major error. It is not in my Scott catalog, so any reference help would be appreciated.
This is a Egypt #1, circa 1866, but the o/p on it is that of the Egypt #3.

Been trying to research it, but no luck so far. Anyone here has any clue? Your help would be most appreciated.
rrr....

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jillcrow

05 Mar 2018
06:03:12pm

re: Help with the Egypt #1 ERROR

Perhaps this description has been taken from the Stanley Gibbons catalogue, where Type 1 is the illustration for the 5 para stamp, and Type 3 is the illustration for the overprint inscription for the set.

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rrraphy

Retired Consultant APS#186030
05 Mar 2018
07:56:32pm

re: Help with the Egypt #1 ERROR

I am actually working from a specialized website: http://www.snap-dragon.com/egypt_pre-1900.htm, which shows pictures of every stamp. I must say that I am a bit suspect of the quality and completeness of their information, since they managed to put 2 out of the first 7 images upside down (numbers 3 and 5)! Still it is pretty helpful, if you don't have a detailed specialty reference book to consult.
This area (stamps 1-7) should not be too difficult. The headaches come with the next series, the pyramid and sphinx, and the first and second series of 1867 to 1875, with all the variations of perforations, watermark, printing method and colors....Scott #19-26.

And there is no record of my "Error" stamp, so far I have not seen one..

I must say that I am also a bit confused when I look at the perforations. Any expert wishing to comment?

rrr...

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05 Mar 2018
08:26:55pm

re: Help with the Egypt #1 ERROR

rrraphy, It looks like a forgery to me. Do you have a real #1 that you could scan next to it for comparison? First off the color appears wrong. It should be Dull Green but appears Black. Most of the design elements appear incorrect compared with mine. The funky perfs are also something I've seen on obvious fakes. I would also guess that the paper is rather thick which it should not be.

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rrraphy

Retired Consultant APS#186030
06 Mar 2018
11:53:00pm

re: Help with the Egypt #1 ERROR

Mitch I think you are correct. A FAKE!
Color is a bit off, but the perforations are definitely amateurish!
There are also many other differences.

Here are the two stamps side by side:

Image Not Found

rrr...

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nigelc

07 Mar 2018
04:10:07am

re: Help with the Egypt #1 ERROR

Thanks for posting the two side by side! Happy

I think the most striking difference is in the font of the "5" in the corner.

SG lists two shades of this stamp so don't be too quick to discard any copies that don't look greenish:

- SG 1 grey

- SG 1a greenish grey

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