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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : When Should You Leave a Stamp on an Envelope?

 

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Gudgie

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24 Jun 2019
09:17:18pm
In the 1980's and 90's my wife's late mother was lucky enough to have 2 good sources for international stamps. One was a local university mail office, and the other was a ham radio club. Both provided her with numerous stamps from around the world. Sadly, she passed away, and my wife inherited her collection. The problem was we collected Great Britain and Australian stamps, so these fantastic stamps from other countries were put in archive boxes and hidden away in cupboards.

Upon retirement, my wife and I decided to move and downsize our home, and, as we are now actively collecting stamps again, we decided to tackle these accumulations. There are stamps from all over the world, many duplicates, most on aerogram envelopes, and many from countries of no interest to us. The collection is several thousand envelopes, and is particularly good for the USA in the period 1985 to 1995. Many of the envelopes are large, some padded, and loads have high value stamps on them.

I was about to cut the stamps from the envelopes, but now I am reluctant to do so. Tonight I was going through an American box. The cancellations in most cases are so clear, and most senders included their names and addresses on the envelopes, it would be almost criminal to remove the stamps. I believe some people collect stamps still on envelopes, and others collect good cancellations. Are there any members of Stamporama who collect in these ways?

Should we attempt to sell or gift the accumulation? if we did, who would be interested? Can anyone suggest what we should do, please. We need the room for more recent acquisitions.
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24 Jun 2019
11:52:54pm
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Lots of folks prefer their stamps on cover; even moderns, sometimes especially moderns, as the entire can be the only way to 'prove' that the stamp was GPU (Genuinely POstally Used) and not CTO.

And, as you seem to understand, Every Cover Tells a Story and, once that stamp is off that cover, that story is, like, so gone.

There are tons of loose stamps available in kiloware, on paper & off, for the folks who collect singlets.

All that having been said, if the cover is endangering the stamp - mold, mildew, foxing, whatever - then rescue/removal is appropriate but, if you are soon to de-accession the cover, you can still leave that work to the next guy.

StampoRama is a fine place to de-accession box lots of covers: by giveaway, by auction, etc.

I maintain a PDF of places to donate stamps (and covers); PM for a copy.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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25 Jun 2019
03:32:55am
re: When Should You Leave a Stamp on an Envelope?

All the covers I receive in the post stay intact. I have a mini-mountain to attack at some point!

In-date usage on cover is a highly collectible area. I would be very interested in knowing what Australian material you may come across.

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25 Jun 2019
09:22:53pm

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John,

I'm so glad you asked this question. I looked you up and see you're in UK, which makes me think that many of the US covers are likely to have international rates on them, making them even more attractive, at least for those of us who collect rates and usages.

Unless YOU specifically want a stamp on a cover for your album, I'd try auctioning them off here (or elsewhere).

Let us know if you want to talk about it more.

David

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26 Jun 2019
12:56:47am
re: When Should You Leave a Stamp on an Envelope?

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So who is eating whom?

My guess is that the envelope is reacting with something to create acid that is reacting with the stamp's adhesive to create that ugly, spreading stain ... but does it matter?

Unless I have missed a valuable variety, it is fair to say that this stamp is worth next-to-nothing / less-than-nothing without this cover, and this cover is worth next-to-nothing / less-than-nothing without this stamp. (Okay, sure, even together they ain't worth much but, at least, together they are a thing ... why separate them?)

In fact, if we had come across them earlier ... at a time when removing the stamp might have saved it from significant damage ... it probably would have made more sense to leave the stamp on the cover.

Cold War trivia question: did you know that the CIA printed this stamp?

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Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who is not above removing a stamp from a cover to save the stamp from whatever gruesome fate awaits the cover) (and who is not above omitting a smilie, either, when he thinks it really ought not be necessary)

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Gudgie

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24 Jun 2019
09:17:18pm

In the 1980's and 90's my wife's late mother was lucky enough to have 2 good sources for international stamps. One was a local university mail office, and the other was a ham radio club. Both provided her with numerous stamps from around the world. Sadly, she passed away, and my wife inherited her collection. The problem was we collected Great Britain and Australian stamps, so these fantastic stamps from other countries were put in archive boxes and hidden away in cupboards.

Upon retirement, my wife and I decided to move and downsize our home, and, as we are now actively collecting stamps again, we decided to tackle these accumulations. There are stamps from all over the world, many duplicates, most on aerogram envelopes, and many from countries of no interest to us. The collection is several thousand envelopes, and is particularly good for the USA in the period 1985 to 1995. Many of the envelopes are large, some padded, and loads have high value stamps on them.

I was about to cut the stamps from the envelopes, but now I am reluctant to do so. Tonight I was going through an American box. The cancellations in most cases are so clear, and most senders included their names and addresses on the envelopes, it would be almost criminal to remove the stamps. I believe some people collect stamps still on envelopes, and others collect good cancellations. Are there any members of Stamporama who collect in these ways?

Should we attempt to sell or gift the accumulation? if we did, who would be interested? Can anyone suggest what we should do, please. We need the room for more recent acquisitions.

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ikeyPikey

24 Jun 2019
11:52:54pm

re: When Should You Leave a Stamp on an Envelope?

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Lots of folks prefer their stamps on cover; even moderns, sometimes especially moderns, as the entire can be the only way to 'prove' that the stamp was GPU (Genuinely POstally Used) and not CTO.

And, as you seem to understand, Every Cover Tells a Story and, once that stamp is off that cover, that story is, like, so gone.

There are tons of loose stamps available in kiloware, on paper & off, for the folks who collect singlets.

All that having been said, if the cover is endangering the stamp - mold, mildew, foxing, whatever - then rescue/removal is appropriate but, if you are soon to de-accession the cover, you can still leave that work to the next guy.

StampoRama is a fine place to de-accession box lots of covers: by giveaway, by auction, etc.

I maintain a PDF of places to donate stamps (and covers); PM for a copy.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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DaveSheridan

25 Jun 2019
03:32:55am

re: When Should You Leave a Stamp on an Envelope?

All the covers I receive in the post stay intact. I have a mini-mountain to attack at some point!

In-date usage on cover is a highly collectible area. I would be very interested in knowing what Australian material you may come across.

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amsd

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25 Jun 2019
09:22:53pm

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re: When Should You Leave a Stamp on an Envelope?

John,

I'm so glad you asked this question. I looked you up and see you're in UK, which makes me think that many of the US covers are likely to have international rates on them, making them even more attractive, at least for those of us who collect rates and usages.

Unless YOU specifically want a stamp on a cover for your album, I'd try auctioning them off here (or elsewhere).

Let us know if you want to talk about it more.

David

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ikeyPikey

26 Jun 2019
12:56:47am

re: When Should You Leave a Stamp on an Envelope?

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So who is eating whom?

My guess is that the envelope is reacting with something to create acid that is reacting with the stamp's adhesive to create that ugly, spreading stain ... but does it matter?

Unless I have missed a valuable variety, it is fair to say that this stamp is worth next-to-nothing / less-than-nothing without this cover, and this cover is worth next-to-nothing / less-than-nothing without this stamp. (Okay, sure, even together they ain't worth much but, at least, together they are a thing ... why separate them?)

In fact, if we had come across them earlier ... at a time when removing the stamp might have saved it from significant damage ... it probably would have made more sense to leave the stamp on the cover.

Cold War trivia question: did you know that the CIA printed this stamp?

Image Not Found

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who is not above removing a stamp from a cover to save the stamp from whatever gruesome fate awaits the cover) (and who is not above omitting a smilie, either, when he thinks it really ought not be necessary)

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