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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : question on Netherlands Disney stamps

 

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dell4c

24 Mar 2020
09:20:12pm

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I admit I don't keep up on new issues but I came across this stamp in a trade

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I was a bit surprised and tried my limited google skills and only came up with this large image of many more Dutch Disney stamps.

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I was hoping someone with a more current catalog than my 2011 or current on Dutch stamps could tell me if these are real stamps and if so something about them, how many, when issued and if they are an ongoing issue.

Any information would be appreciated.

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Bob

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24 Mar 2020
10:31:55pm
re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

Bob, check in your Scott for the description and footnote for Scott 1301 & 1302. These were personalized stamps, issued in 2008.

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24 Mar 2020
10:43:40pm
re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

Hi Bob
I can't do a detailed search until tomorrow, but I do know that the Netherlands issued nearly a hundred Disney themed stamps between 2009 and 2012.

At this time I'm guessing they are legit postage for the Netherlands, but I can't verify if the issues were licensed by Disney or not. Disney has always insisted that a license would not be granted if the artwork was not up to Disney Standards. Some countries issued stamps without the permissions.

I'll search some more tomorrow

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25 Mar 2020
02:30:24am

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re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

These personalised stamps are one of the main reasons why I do not collect any Netherlands issued after 2002.... there are the truly personalised ones that often contain some kind of commercial message and the vanity stamps. Apart from that PostNL created many sets one could subscribe to, such as these Disney / Donald Duck stamps. Of course with an accompanying book. It seems there is a market for them.

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jmh67

25 Mar 2020
04:49:32am
re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

Let us say they try to create a market for this kind of stuff, just like they did with the commemoratives and pictorial stamps in decades past. Somewhat successfully, too, but also to the detriment of those who see stamps chiefly as payment of postage, and collect accordingly. But as King Frederick II of Prussia put it back in the 18th century: Let everyone find salvation after their own fashion ...

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25 Mar 2020
04:57:30am

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I found there is a special catalogue for personalised stamps, listing more than 1000 different.

yes, they do try to create a market, just as they did with FDCs, maximum cards and the like. Most of which are now dumped on the market and found to be undesirable by most collectors.

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25 Mar 2020
07:21:30am
re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

" .... Most of which are now dumped on the market
and found to be undesirable by most collectors. ...
."

I agree, and thus the useful meme;
"If something is mass produced solely for collectors,
it is not a collectable."


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25 Mar 2020
10:55:02am
re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

Jan and Charlie are pulling words out of my mouth.
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one with these feelings.

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dell4c

25 Mar 2020
12:45:00pm

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re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

Thanks for all the information!

Bob

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25 Mar 2020
02:44:51pm
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"Any information would be appreciated."



I was also wondering the same thing about similar dutch issues depicting wildlife, birds, butterflies. I find some of those on Ebay, but they are not listed in StampWorld.

Just like Jan-Simon I find it discouraging to keep up with them. I actually have plenty of trouble finding those recent Dutch sets of 10 that ARE listed in StampWorld.
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25 Mar 2020
02:53:13pm
re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

Not much more to add. These stamps were issued in 2010 and 2011 to celebrate the 3000th issue of Donald Duck Magazine. The first stamp in the series was an official Dutch Post issue (Donald with Tool Kit). The other 35 stamps were printed by the Comic Book publisher and sold only through NLPost in sheetlets of 20 stamps.

Mike

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lerivage

26 Mar 2020
09:12:01am
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With all those personalizaed, between quotes, stamps, I wonder how mailpeople can trust that franking is legitimate. In the past forgery was a kind of art, now its easy

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26 Mar 2020
11:28:03am
re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

I hate this kind of contrived collectible.
That said, I would love to have just the one of Donald Duck playing string bass.
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dell4c

24 Mar 2020
09:20:12pm

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I admit I don't keep up on new issues but I came across this stamp in a trade

Image Not Found

I was a bit surprised and tried my limited google skills and only came up with this large image of many more Dutch Disney stamps.

Image Not Found

I was hoping someone with a more current catalog than my 2011 or current on Dutch stamps could tell me if these are real stamps and if so something about them, how many, when issued and if they are an ongoing issue.

Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks
Bob

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24 Mar 2020
10:31:55pm

re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

Bob, check in your Scott for the description and footnote for Scott 1301 & 1302. These were personalized stamps, issued in 2008.

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MikeyToo

24 Mar 2020
10:43:40pm

re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

Hi Bob
I can't do a detailed search until tomorrow, but I do know that the Netherlands issued nearly a hundred Disney themed stamps between 2009 and 2012.

At this time I'm guessing they are legit postage for the Netherlands, but I can't verify if the issues were licensed by Disney or not. Disney has always insisted that a license would not be granted if the artwork was not up to Disney Standards. Some countries issued stamps without the permissions.

I'll search some more tomorrow

Mikey

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Jansimon

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25 Mar 2020
02:30:24am

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re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

These personalised stamps are one of the main reasons why I do not collect any Netherlands issued after 2002.... there are the truly personalised ones that often contain some kind of commercial message and the vanity stamps. Apart from that PostNL created many sets one could subscribe to, such as these Disney / Donald Duck stamps. Of course with an accompanying book. It seems there is a market for them.

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jmh67

25 Mar 2020
04:49:32am

re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

Let us say they try to create a market for this kind of stuff, just like they did with the commemoratives and pictorial stamps in decades past. Somewhat successfully, too, but also to the detriment of those who see stamps chiefly as payment of postage, and collect accordingly. But as King Frederick II of Prussia put it back in the 18th century: Let everyone find salvation after their own fashion ...

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Jansimon

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25 Mar 2020
04:57:30am

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re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

I found there is a special catalogue for personalised stamps, listing more than 1000 different.

yes, they do try to create a market, just as they did with FDCs, maximum cards and the like. Most of which are now dumped on the market and found to be undesirable by most collectors.

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www.etsy.com/nl/shop ...

Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
25 Mar 2020
07:21:30am

re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

" .... Most of which are now dumped on the market
and found to be undesirable by most collectors. ...
."

I agree, and thus the useful meme;
"If something is mass produced solely for collectors,
it is not a collectable."


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25 Mar 2020
10:55:02am

re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

Jan and Charlie are pulling words out of my mouth.
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one with these feelings.

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dell4c

25 Mar 2020
12:45:00pm

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re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

Thanks for all the information!

Bob

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cougar

25 Mar 2020
02:44:51pm

re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

"Any information would be appreciated."



I was also wondering the same thing about similar dutch issues depicting wildlife, birds, butterflies. I find some of those on Ebay, but they are not listed in StampWorld.

Just like Jan-Simon I find it discouraging to keep up with them. I actually have plenty of trouble finding those recent Dutch sets of 10 that ARE listed in StampWorld.
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MikeyToo

25 Mar 2020
02:53:13pm

re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

Not much more to add. These stamps were issued in 2010 and 2011 to celebrate the 3000th issue of Donald Duck Magazine. The first stamp in the series was an official Dutch Post issue (Donald with Tool Kit). The other 35 stamps were printed by the Comic Book publisher and sold only through NLPost in sheetlets of 20 stamps.

Mike

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lerivage

26 Mar 2020
09:12:01am

re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

With all those personalizaed, between quotes, stamps, I wonder how mailpeople can trust that franking is legitimate. In the past forgery was a kind of art, now its easy

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youpiao

26 Mar 2020
11:28:03am

re: question on Netherlands Disney stamps

I hate this kind of contrived collectible.
That said, I would love to have just the one of Donald Duck playing string bass.
Big Grin

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