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Sales, Swaps, Auction & Approvals/Auction Disc. : A suggestion

 

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Harvey

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26 Jul 2020
03:26:20pm
I'm just going to make a suggestion - don't get too upset, it's only a suggestion. If you put a good sized number of stamps on the auction site, I can understand if you don't have time to add a number or a year, but could at least take a little bit of time to put them in order? The other day a large collection from a certain country was added, maybe about 30 stamps, give or take - no numbers or years (OK), but they were in no discernible order. Checking them all out was pretty well impossible because of how long it would take to flip through my album checking each stamp - so I, feeling a bit lazy, just did't bother. Please don't jump on me about how what you get for the stamps isn't worth the effort. On the auction site most people number their stamps or at least put a year!
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26 Jul 2020
05:16:23pm

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100 % agree with you and thank you for the advice. Crisale9

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18 Aug 2020
11:30:38am

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I thought number (from what ever catalog used) was a rule for listing in auction.
also if cv. listed name of catalog and was also required.

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18 Aug 2020
01:36:41pm
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the number is not required. hoewever, if you quote a value for a stamp, you must include the catalogue and year used

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons

18 Aug 2020
02:31:45pm

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"If you put a good sized number of stamps on the auction site, I can understand if you don't have time to add a number or a year, but could at least take a little bit of time to put them in order?"



Putting them in order can only be done if you list them one at a time and activate them immediately.

Those sellers that put them through in a batch CANNOT list them in order. The "system" does not allow it!

The same applies if you relist them!
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Harvey

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18 Aug 2020
03:46:44pm
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Sorry Ian - didn't know. I've never tried selling, only buying. I guess I have to learn to keep my mouth shut about things of which I know not!! You usually keep your stuff organized on the auction site. I use Scott's and you use Stanley Gibbons, but any number is a way to keep things in order. I, and I'm sure others, appreciate the work you put into your items.

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons

18 Aug 2020
05:54:24pm

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Harvey:-

One of the great joys of stamporama is that questions get answered, suggestions and statements discussed and thus we members are educated.

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18 Aug 2020
06:09:58pm
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I gotta edukashion but it's lokked aweigh so noboddy nose.

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19 Aug 2020
04:19:40am

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Yes, when you bulk load you cannot set the order which is why my Monday BIN auctions are out of whack and not in age order. I am a one at a time guy on the others though as I absolutely have to have things end in the order they are uploaded in order to make it easier to find. Pennys are always first followed by the rest. All will always have catalog number in them but not the year the stamp was issued. Tried that once or twice and there was no increase in sales - and I keep going back to books of stamps with no #'s and figure if people are buying that way, with no number, than no year should not be a problem. Who knows. Not sure why uploaded Excel files do not post in order as on other sites they do. Perhaps Tim knows why. If they did post in order it would be very easy to set up auctions to be in alphabetical order by simply sorting a spreadsheet.

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons

19 Aug 2020
03:53:35pm

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sheepshanks:- I take it you got that rotten algorithim they used for the "A" Levels this year?

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19 Aug 2020
06:05:55pm
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Greg,
In displaying a batch of bulk loaded Auction Lots, the default display order of the batch is Posting Date and then Lot Number in descending order. This means the last Lot in your Exec spreadsheet is displaying first. In general this was to be consistent with the other lots so that the last lot loaded is the first lot displayed.

The Closing in 24 Hours listing is a little different in that it displays in Closing Date and then Lot Number in ascending order. The reason here was that the Bulk Loaded batch will all close at the same time, so this order will mean that you are notified in the order that you had them in the Exec spreadsheet.

Hope that helps. I don't have a problem with changing this ordering if there is a general consensus to change it.

Regards ... Tim.



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19 Aug 2020
08:45:20pm
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@Brechinite, Ian, I never got to do A levels, left school at 16 with 5 GCE's at O level, worked for 54 years then retired. So far so good.

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20 Aug 2020
06:16:51am

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Tim, the one time I tried it, the lots did not load in order as appeared on the spread sheet. The end result was that my penny auctions which are always first, were all over the place intermingled with the regular ones. It made it harder at the end to locate the stamps when purchased. It takes about an hour to do 100+ auctions one at a time, so when I added the time it took to make a spreadsheet, and loading images 20 at a time, then adding in the extra time it took to put things together at the end, the time saving was minimal. On the BIN auctions its obvious that it does not load in order as my BIN auctions have a BIN number on the line as you can see. If they were uploading in order all the same BIN#'s would be grouped together to match the spread sheet. Image numbers are also in numerical order and they always upload in order when I do it. If the order displayed was reverse as you say, the higher BIN numbers, those that are more current on the sheet, would display first. What I do see is that ALL BIN auctions have the exact same starting time. I suppose that is possible and would mean that since the time goes out to seconds and not a fraction of a second, that every single stamp was added to the system at the same time with a delay of less than a second. This is tough to believe as doing a quick check just now on my Hipstamp auctions, also done via Excel, the time changes by a second after the 2nd stamp. In any event, it doesn't seem to bother anyone to do it this way, but it does make the original request of putting things in order way too time consuming doing it one by one, and impossible to do with a spreadsheet.

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20 Aug 2020
10:39:01am
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Hi Greg,
Just looking at the lots that you have in the Auction at the moment, they are displaying exactly as I have described above. There is a second or two between the posting dates of the lots. I note that in many cases the Lot Number is not consecutive numbers indicating that other people were loading lots into the Auction at the same time as you were or they were buying items from Approval books at the same time that you were loading, but the Lot Numbers are displaying in descending order which is consistent with what I stated above. I also note that all your Buy It Now numbers seem to be displaying grouped together.

Regards ... Tim.

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20 Aug 2020
11:37:32am

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Tim, The non "buy it nows" were put up one at a time but the display of the BINs are indeed grouped together. As a seller I do not see that. Here is what I see. The 77's are together in a search but not in a dsiplay:

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I never knew they were in order

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Harvey

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26 Jul 2020
03:26:20pm

I'm just going to make a suggestion - don't get too upset, it's only a suggestion. If you put a good sized number of stamps on the auction site, I can understand if you don't have time to add a number or a year, but could at least take a little bit of time to put them in order? The other day a large collection from a certain country was added, maybe about 30 stamps, give or take - no numbers or years (OK), but they were in no discernible order. Checking them all out was pretty well impossible because of how long it would take to flip through my album checking each stamp - so I, feeling a bit lazy, just did't bother. Please don't jump on me about how what you get for the stamps isn't worth the effort. On the auction site most people number their stamps or at least put a year!

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26 Jul 2020
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100 % agree with you and thank you for the advice. Crisale9

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18 Aug 2020
11:30:38am

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I thought number (from what ever catalog used) was a rule for listing in auction.
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18 Aug 2020
01:36:41pm

re: A suggestion

the number is not required. hoewever, if you quote a value for a stamp, you must include the catalogue and year used

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons
18 Aug 2020
02:31:45pm

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re: A suggestion

"If you put a good sized number of stamps on the auction site, I can understand if you don't have time to add a number or a year, but could at least take a little bit of time to put them in order?"



Putting them in order can only be done if you list them one at a time and activate them immediately.

Those sellers that put them through in a batch CANNOT list them in order. The "system" does not allow it!

The same applies if you relist them!
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Harvey

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18 Aug 2020
03:46:44pm

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Sorry Ian - didn't know. I've never tried selling, only buying. I guess I have to learn to keep my mouth shut about things of which I know not!! You usually keep your stuff organized on the auction site. I use Scott's and you use Stanley Gibbons, but any number is a way to keep things in order. I, and I'm sure others, appreciate the work you put into your items.

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons
18 Aug 2020
05:54:24pm

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Harvey:-

One of the great joys of stamporama is that questions get answered, suggestions and statements discussed and thus we members are educated.

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18 Aug 2020
06:09:58pm

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I gotta edukashion but it's lokked aweigh so noboddy nose.

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19 Aug 2020
04:19:40am

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Yes, when you bulk load you cannot set the order which is why my Monday BIN auctions are out of whack and not in age order. I am a one at a time guy on the others though as I absolutely have to have things end in the order they are uploaded in order to make it easier to find. Pennys are always first followed by the rest. All will always have catalog number in them but not the year the stamp was issued. Tried that once or twice and there was no increase in sales - and I keep going back to books of stamps with no #'s and figure if people are buying that way, with no number, than no year should not be a problem. Who knows. Not sure why uploaded Excel files do not post in order as on other sites they do. Perhaps Tim knows why. If they did post in order it would be very easy to set up auctions to be in alphabetical order by simply sorting a spreadsheet.

Greg

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons
19 Aug 2020
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sheepshanks:- I take it you got that rotten algorithim they used for the "A" Levels this year?

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19 Aug 2020
06:05:55pm

re: A suggestion

Greg,
In displaying a batch of bulk loaded Auction Lots, the default display order of the batch is Posting Date and then Lot Number in descending order. This means the last Lot in your Exec spreadsheet is displaying first. In general this was to be consistent with the other lots so that the last lot loaded is the first lot displayed.

The Closing in 24 Hours listing is a little different in that it displays in Closing Date and then Lot Number in ascending order. The reason here was that the Bulk Loaded batch will all close at the same time, so this order will mean that you are notified in the order that you had them in the Exec spreadsheet.

Hope that helps. I don't have a problem with changing this ordering if there is a general consensus to change it.

Regards ... Tim.



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19 Aug 2020
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@Brechinite, Ian, I never got to do A levels, left school at 16 with 5 GCE's at O level, worked for 54 years then retired. So far so good.

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Soundcrest

20 Aug 2020
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Tim, the one time I tried it, the lots did not load in order as appeared on the spread sheet. The end result was that my penny auctions which are always first, were all over the place intermingled with the regular ones. It made it harder at the end to locate the stamps when purchased. It takes about an hour to do 100+ auctions one at a time, so when I added the time it took to make a spreadsheet, and loading images 20 at a time, then adding in the extra time it took to put things together at the end, the time saving was minimal. On the BIN auctions its obvious that it does not load in order as my BIN auctions have a BIN number on the line as you can see. If they were uploading in order all the same BIN#'s would be grouped together to match the spread sheet. Image numbers are also in numerical order and they always upload in order when I do it. If the order displayed was reverse as you say, the higher BIN numbers, those that are more current on the sheet, would display first. What I do see is that ALL BIN auctions have the exact same starting time. I suppose that is possible and would mean that since the time goes out to seconds and not a fraction of a second, that every single stamp was added to the system at the same time with a delay of less than a second. This is tough to believe as doing a quick check just now on my Hipstamp auctions, also done via Excel, the time changes by a second after the 2nd stamp. In any event, it doesn't seem to bother anyone to do it this way, but it does make the original request of putting things in order way too time consuming doing it one by one, and impossible to do with a spreadsheet.

Greg

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20 Aug 2020
10:39:01am

re: A suggestion

Hi Greg,
Just looking at the lots that you have in the Auction at the moment, they are displaying exactly as I have described above. There is a second or two between the posting dates of the lots. I note that in many cases the Lot Number is not consecutive numbers indicating that other people were loading lots into the Auction at the same time as you were or they were buying items from Approval books at the same time that you were loading, but the Lot Numbers are displaying in descending order which is consistent with what I stated above. I also note that all your Buy It Now numbers seem to be displaying grouped together.

Regards ... Tim.

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20 Aug 2020
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Tim, The non "buy it nows" were put up one at a time but the display of the BINs are indeed grouped together. As a seller I do not see that. Here is what I see. The 77's are together in a search but not in a dsiplay:

Image Not Found


I never knew they were in order

Greg


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