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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

 

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RANGER

15 Sep 2020
08:12:55pm
Image Not FoundImage Not FoundI have a mint R6 on silk paper as well as a normal R6. Images above. Scott Catalog does not list a value for a mint revenue stamp. Any information appreciated.
Sorry for my image loading prowess. Image Not Found

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michael78651

15 Sep 2020
09:40:10pm
re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

2020 Scott US Specialized Values

R6c (perforated) = 45 cents

R6d silk paper = $275.00

If the stamp you say is unused does not have gum, then it is considered to be used per Scott. If it has gum, then its value is higher, depending on the stamp. Years ago, I remember a dealer saying that an unused revenue stamp issued prior to 1898 has a catalog value double that of a used example.

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RANGER

15 Sep 2020
10:00:56pm
re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Thanks Michael. No gum on back so I gues it is by definition "used". Any idea what happened to the Revenue stamp market as my Scott's 2010 Specialized Catalog values R6d at $250.00 for used copy?

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16 Sep 2020
09:57:04pm
re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

My 2018 US Specialized says $275 for a used R6d!!


And to expand on what Michael referred to concerning no gum on back;

here's a quote from the same catalog - "Uncanceled first thru third revenue stamps without gum

are generally not considered unused by the marketplace because the vast majority

have been soaked or sweated from documents."

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michael78651

17 Sep 2020
12:13:03am
re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Sorry, I have to blame my cataracts on this one. I fixed the value for the R6d in my original reply. The amount I gave is the value for a different variety right above the stamp in question. Sorry about that.

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17 Sep 2020
06:52:51am
re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Can we see a high resolution scan of the back of the silk paper stamp?
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RANGER

17 Sep 2020
03:54:40pm
re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Hopefully this works, 400 DPI Grayscale.Image Not Found

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17 Sep 2020
04:09:16pm
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R6c BacksideImage Not Found

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RANGER

17 Sep 2020
04:12:07pm
re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Here is a nice article that discusses the use of silk threads on Revenue Stamps

https://revenue-collector.com/1stissuesilkpapers.shtml

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RANGER

17 Sep 2020
04:46:52pm
re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Closeup of thread in color 1200 DPIImage Not Found

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17 Sep 2020
05:15:56pm
re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Are there unscrupulous people out there that would try to "trap" a fine thread under a hinge to make it look like a silk stamp? The thread is not as blue as the article depicts. Since there is no gum anymore, if I soak this stamp to remove the hinge, should I anticipate any issues?

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17 Sep 2020
05:35:46pm
re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

I would recommend a clear, cool bath but to my hobbyist eye I do not see any silk threads.
First issue silk threads are typically blue and quite small like Dan’s website describes in the link you provided above. After soaking, you might send Dan some scans and ask him for his opinion.
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17 Sep 2020
06:55:51pm
re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Have my answer. Thread no longer in paper after soaking. Accidental or on purpose? we'll never but shows relevance of the need for a blue thread color.Image Not Found

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RANGER

15 Sep 2020
08:12:55pm

Image Not FoundImage Not FoundI have a mint R6 on silk paper as well as a normal R6. Images above. Scott Catalog does not list a value for a mint revenue stamp. Any information appreciated.
Sorry for my image loading prowess. Image Not Found

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michael78651

15 Sep 2020
09:40:10pm

re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

2020 Scott US Specialized Values

R6c (perforated) = 45 cents

R6d silk paper = $275.00

If the stamp you say is unused does not have gum, then it is considered to be used per Scott. If it has gum, then its value is higher, depending on the stamp. Years ago, I remember a dealer saying that an unused revenue stamp issued prior to 1898 has a catalog value double that of a used example.

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RANGER

15 Sep 2020
10:00:56pm

re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Thanks Michael. No gum on back so I gues it is by definition "used". Any idea what happened to the Revenue stamp market as my Scott's 2010 Specialized Catalog values R6d at $250.00 for used copy?

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16 Sep 2020
09:57:04pm

re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

My 2018 US Specialized says $275 for a used R6d!!


And to expand on what Michael referred to concerning no gum on back;

here's a quote from the same catalog - "Uncanceled first thru third revenue stamps without gum

are generally not considered unused by the marketplace because the vast majority

have been soaked or sweated from documents."

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michael78651

17 Sep 2020
12:13:03am

re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Sorry, I have to blame my cataracts on this one. I fixed the value for the R6d in my original reply. The amount I gave is the value for a different variety right above the stamp in question. Sorry about that.

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17 Sep 2020
06:52:51am

re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Can we see a high resolution scan of the back of the silk paper stamp?
Don

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17 Sep 2020
03:54:40pm

re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Hopefully this works, 400 DPI Grayscale.Image Not Found

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17 Sep 2020
04:09:16pm

re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

R6c BacksideImage Not Found

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RANGER

17 Sep 2020
04:12:07pm

re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Here is a nice article that discusses the use of silk threads on Revenue Stamps

https://revenue-collector.com/1stissuesilkpapers.shtml

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RANGER

17 Sep 2020
04:46:52pm

re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Closeup of thread in color 1200 DPIImage Not Found

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17 Sep 2020
05:15:56pm

re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Are there unscrupulous people out there that would try to "trap" a fine thread under a hinge to make it look like a silk stamp? The thread is not as blue as the article depicts. Since there is no gum anymore, if I soak this stamp to remove the hinge, should I anticipate any issues?

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17 Sep 2020
05:35:46pm

re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

I would recommend a clear, cool bath but to my hobbyist eye I do not see any silk threads.
First issue silk threads are typically blue and quite small like Dan’s website describes in the link you provided above. After soaking, you might send Dan some scans and ask him for his opinion.
Don

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17 Sep 2020
06:55:51pm

re: Value of mint Revenue Stamp R6

Have my answer. Thread no longer in paper after soaking. Accidental or on purpose? we'll never but shows relevance of the need for a blue thread color.Image Not Found

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