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They targeted rare butterfly stamps & spend millions $ buying them. Their strategy is to monopolize the butterfly stamp by buying every rare butterfly stamps on Earth. Over the years, they quietly purchased all of them. Once they accomplish this task, they would hold them.
While the stamp collectors around the world were enjoying the hobby, some butterfly stamp collectors were beginning to notice something. They needed rare butterfly stamps to complete their collection, but unable to. They search everywhere, but couldn't find them. Some make a personal trip to the stamp shop to speak to the owner while others contacting their local philately for inquiry. Some were so desperate that they were willing to pay at any price.
As time passes, the world of butterfly stamp came to a standstill. Several ads were displayed requesting public for help. Nobody know where are the missing rare butterfly stamps. A rumor beginning to circulate in Europe. It's believed that a group of Investors purchased all the rare butterfly stamps & hold them as hostage. Some people called them "Stamp Cartel". But, it doesn't make any sense. Why spend so much money & hold them forever? If the money isn't the motive, then what is?
Anyway, it's just a rumor. There's no way to confirm if the rumor is true or not.
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Is there really a rare butterfly stamp? Seems to be a more recent thematic. Maybe I'm wrong. I might try to corner the market on Disney stamps.
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this was definitely true with Europa; don't know if that's still the case. Our own Jopie is a Europa afficianado, and will confirm (me, I only know this because of her)
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I have never heard of the cartel. I do know that butterflies on stamps is a very popular topical in Japan.
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"There's no way to confirm if the rumor is true or not. "
I don't know of any really rare and expensive butterfly stamps. There is a set of 1989 Burundi surcharged butterflies which is cataloged high but is not particularly rare.
A few more come to mind, but nothing really stands out as hard to find.
This reminds me of a similar rumor I heard about this Australian stamp when I was a kid. The story was, that someone has bought all available stamps in order to corner the market.
The stamp at the time , in the early 80's had a high catalog value.
Now, according to Stampworld , it catalogs at 0.25 - the lowest value assigned to a stamp.
What happened over those years and why, I have no idea.
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The 9d Magpie (SG364) also has a variant. SG364h has helecon incorporated in the paper. That stamp sells for $5 in Australia, so maybe that was the target?
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Dave, by memory the 9p magpie became an expensive stamp from one year to the next, and it was the regular issue. I could have checked the old Yvert catalogues, if they were not left behind on another continent.
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Sometimes strange and illogical things happen.
Take for instance this cow stamp from the Netherlands from 1974.
It is not rare at all, more than 4,5 million were sold, which is more than twice as much as the 'children' stamps from the years before and after, and exactly as much as the crab 'fight cancer' stamp that was in the same set.
But because of the design where you had to get two stamps in order to get three complete cows, there was a lot of speculation which endures to today. This was even amplified when the major album makers reserved a double spot in their updates for 1974. Even though the craze has long gone, catalogue values for this stamp are still much higher than one would expect given the number of sold stamps.
A lot of stamp dealers stocked up on this stamp because they could sell it at 10 to 20 times its nominal value and I suppose many full sheets are still locked away somewhere.
Just another example of how dealers try to control the market.
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" ... there was a lot of speculation which endures to today. ..."
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Many years ago, a group of Investors ruled the Topical "butterfly".
They targeted rare butterfly stamps & spend millions $ buying them. Their strategy is to monopolize the butterfly stamp by buying every rare butterfly stamps on Earth. Over the years, they quietly purchased all of them. Once they accomplish this task, they would hold them.
While the stamp collectors around the world were enjoying the hobby, some butterfly stamp collectors were beginning to notice something. They needed rare butterfly stamps to complete their collection, but unable to. They search everywhere, but couldn't find them. Some make a personal trip to the stamp shop to speak to the owner while others contacting their local philately for inquiry. Some were so desperate that they were willing to pay at any price.
As time passes, the world of butterfly stamp came to a standstill. Several ads were displayed requesting public for help. Nobody know where are the missing rare butterfly stamps. A rumor beginning to circulate in Europe. It's believed that a group of Investors purchased all the rare butterfly stamps & hold them as hostage. Some people called them "Stamp Cartel". But, it doesn't make any sense. Why spend so much money & hold them forever? If the money isn't the motive, then what is?
Anyway, it's just a rumor. There's no way to confirm if the rumor is true or not.
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Is there really a rare butterfly stamp? Seems to be a more recent thematic. Maybe I'm wrong. I might try to corner the market on Disney stamps.
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this was definitely true with Europa; don't know if that's still the case. Our own Jopie is a Europa afficianado, and will confirm (me, I only know this because of her)
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I have never heard of the cartel. I do know that butterflies on stamps is a very popular topical in Japan.
David
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"There's no way to confirm if the rumor is true or not. "
I don't know of any really rare and expensive butterfly stamps. There is a set of 1989 Burundi surcharged butterflies which is cataloged high but is not particularly rare.
A few more come to mind, but nothing really stands out as hard to find.
This reminds me of a similar rumor I heard about this Australian stamp when I was a kid. The story was, that someone has bought all available stamps in order to corner the market.
The stamp at the time , in the early 80's had a high catalog value.
Now, according to Stampworld , it catalogs at 0.25 - the lowest value assigned to a stamp.
What happened over those years and why, I have no idea.
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The 9d Magpie (SG364) also has a variant. SG364h has helecon incorporated in the paper. That stamp sells for $5 in Australia, so maybe that was the target?
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Dave, by memory the 9p magpie became an expensive stamp from one year to the next, and it was the regular issue. I could have checked the old Yvert catalogues, if they were not left behind on another continent.
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Sometimes strange and illogical things happen.
Take for instance this cow stamp from the Netherlands from 1974.
It is not rare at all, more than 4,5 million were sold, which is more than twice as much as the 'children' stamps from the years before and after, and exactly as much as the crab 'fight cancer' stamp that was in the same set.
But because of the design where you had to get two stamps in order to get three complete cows, there was a lot of speculation which endures to today. This was even amplified when the major album makers reserved a double spot in their updates for 1974. Even though the craze has long gone, catalogue values for this stamp are still much higher than one would expect given the number of sold stamps.
A lot of stamp dealers stocked up on this stamp because they could sell it at 10 to 20 times its nominal value and I suppose many full sheets are still locked away somewhere.
Just another example of how dealers try to control the market.
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" ... there was a lot of speculation which endures to today. ..."
For Halloween, I want to go Trick or Treating as the Sierra Leone
"Face on Mars."
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