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Sales, Swaps, Auction & Approvals/Auction Disc. : A bit of a dilemma

 

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Harvey

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12 Feb 2022
03:50:04pm
There are certain items I have been bidding on lately that someone always overbids me for and obviously wants more than I do. So, here's the problem! Should I not bid since I know I will be overbid, which will hurt the seller, or should I keep putting in my maximum bid anyway, which hurts the other buyer. I am an old auction pro, so I know my answer. What do you think I should do? Just curious...
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dell4c

12 Feb 2022
04:11:13pm

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Keep Bidding - I just won a lot today that I have bid on from the same seller for that last 4 weeks!! Was always outbid but got it today Happy I guess everyone else that wanted that set outbid me for it already and I finally got it at my price Happy Happy Happy

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12 Feb 2022
04:58:28pm
re: A bit of a dilemma

Yep, keep on bidding. The situation that you are seeing is a good thing for the sellers and in the long term I believe is a good thing for the club.

Regards ... Tim.

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12 Feb 2022
05:37:22pm
re: A bit of a dilemma

I would keep bidding. The prices here are VERY good, well below CV. Pay as much as you want to spend on something.

Just don't do it to me!

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Harvey

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12 Feb 2022
05:51:30pm
re: A bit of a dilemma

I will certainly keep on bidding - I'm really getting one buyer upset and making one seller happy. I really don't want to tell what the items are, maybe later when the seller has exhausted his/her supply!! I joined this group a few years ago when everyone knew who they were bidding against and quite often the first bidder had no one bidding against him. I like this much better!

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12 Feb 2022
08:46:46pm
re: A bit of a dilemma

No dilemma at all. It's an auction. If you want something, and can get it for the price you want to pay, bid. The alternative is not getting th eitem, and you may not find it being offered ever again, or for a long while.

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12 Feb 2022
10:39:38pm
re: A bit of a dilemma

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons

16 Feb 2022
12:28:41pm

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re: A bit of a dilemma

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This auction lot was estimated at £100 to £150. As well as this stockcard there were 3 others showing stamps of a later vintage into the early part of the 20th century.

As a buyer I was cheesed off at the price it fetched. If I was the seller I would have been happy with the £2600!!

Auctions are a lottery, whether you are buying or selling.




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23 Mar 2022
04:16:59am
re: A bit of a dilemma

" ... you may not find it being offered ever again ..."

There have been several lots over the years that
came up at a time when I had already spent or
bid on as much as I could afford that week or that
month that I've never seen offered again at a
similar price.

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Tom in Exton, PA

26 Mar 2022
08:32:54pm
re: A bit of a dilemma

When I see things I would like to own, I bid on them. Usually by snipe bid so I'm not displaying my high bids to others who would wish to outbid me.

Sometimes I'm successful... yeah me! Other times I'm not successful, but at least I made someone else pay a bit more for outbidding me! Happy

And the seller did a bit better too!


There have been times when I see something I've been Jonesing about and I see it when I'm in a bad position to spend money. Many years ago I had just closed on my new house here in Pennsylvania. A model car that is absolutely the rarest comes up for sale on eBay. I wasn't in a position to frivolously spend money... but there it was! And I hadn't seen one like this in ages. There were a few other times previously I was in the same boat but passed. This time I reasoned there would never be the perfect time, so I hit that "Buy It Now" button!

Yes, I paid $450 for a model car. But nothing bad happened to me for doing so. And I since have not seen another one this nice. Other poorer ones have become available over the years and have sold for much more, so I'm pretty darn pleased!

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26 Mar 2022
09:38:46pm
re: A bit of a dilemma

Bid as much as you are comfortable spending.

On another note.. over the years I have had at least 3 different buyers tell me they won't bid on an item if someone else has placed a bid, and I've had a few bidders get quite angry when they are out bid.
Larry

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27 Mar 2022
10:23:57am
re: A bit of a dilemma

" ... I've had a few bidders get quite angry when they are out bid. ..."

That is the kind of crybaby attitude that led to the secret Santa bidding numbers. ( at least in part.)

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..

27 Mar 2022
10:41:04am
re: A bit of a dilemma

" ... On another note.. over the years I have had
at least 3 different buyers tell me they won't bid
on an item if someone else has placed a bid, ....
"

There were several such members at the local
stamp club so I stopped entering lots unless
they adopted a "second bidder" rule. Meaning
that if there were not at least two bids from
different members, the lot was withdrawn.
Only two or three members agreed with me so
after a while ( a short while) the lifeless auction
died a sad, but unlamented death.
I had enjoyed entering lots at a low opening
bid and but expected some form of activity.
A different club had that kind of rule and their
club auctions evening were a spirited game
of wits.
Very few lots went un-bid on and un-won. It
seemed that once the "ice" was broken bidders
would get in the spirit of things.
The one difference I noticed was that the first
club, here in "God's Waiting Room" was
populated by older members. In fact I was, at
the time one of the youngest members.
The second club was made up of mostly military
members on Guam where there were/are big
Navy, Coast Guard, and Air Force bases and I
think all were younger and perhaps a bit more
adventuresome.

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons

27 Mar 2022
01:22:49pm

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re: A bit of a dilemma

" they won't bid on an item if someone else has placed a bid,"



Sounds like Stamporama.Sad

"There were several such members at the local stamp club so I stopped entering lots unless they adopted a "second bidder" rule."



That would be difficult here.


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Tom in Exton, PA

28 Mar 2022
09:37:38pm
re: A bit of a dilemma

"The one difference I noticed was that the first
club, here in "God's Waiting Room" was
populated by older members. In fact I was, at
the time one of the youngest members."



I left that club at year's end. I declined to renew my membership.

At 63 I was probably the youngest member. One member repeatedly asked the club to change the meeting time from evening to afternoons, "just in case there is an old guy out there somewhere who doesn't drive at night who may join the club." Forget the fact that I and another 2-3 members are still amongst the working.

I explained that changing the meeting time to a daytime on a weekday would cut off any possibility of anyone young joining. The club just reeked of old. Every so often someone younger would attend a meeting or two, then wouldn't return. So I got out!


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29 Mar 2022
06:37:19am
re: A bit of a dilemma

I do not attend the closest club because it is at night.

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Harvey

I think, therefore I am - I think!

12 Feb 2022
03:50:04pm

There are certain items I have been bidding on lately that someone always overbids me for and obviously wants more than I do. So, here's the problem! Should I not bid since I know I will be overbid, which will hurt the seller, or should I keep putting in my maximum bid anyway, which hurts the other buyer. I am an old auction pro, so I know my answer. What do you think I should do? Just curious...

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dell4c

12 Feb 2022
04:11:13pm

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re: A bit of a dilemma

Keep Bidding - I just won a lot today that I have bid on from the same seller for that last 4 weeks!! Was always outbid but got it today Happy I guess everyone else that wanted that set outbid me for it already and I finally got it at my price Happy Happy Happy

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12 Feb 2022
04:58:28pm

re: A bit of a dilemma

Yep, keep on bidding. The situation that you are seeing is a good thing for the sellers and in the long term I believe is a good thing for the club.

Regards ... Tim.

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BrightonPete

Praying for Ukraine
12 Feb 2022
05:37:22pm

re: A bit of a dilemma

I would keep bidding. The prices here are VERY good, well below CV. Pay as much as you want to spend on something.

Just don't do it to me!

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Harvey

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12 Feb 2022
05:51:30pm

re: A bit of a dilemma

I will certainly keep on bidding - I'm really getting one buyer upset and making one seller happy. I really don't want to tell what the items are, maybe later when the seller has exhausted his/her supply!! I joined this group a few years ago when everyone knew who they were bidding against and quite often the first bidder had no one bidding against him. I like this much better!

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michael78651

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12 Feb 2022
08:46:46pm

re: A bit of a dilemma

No dilemma at all. It's an auction. If you want something, and can get it for the price you want to pay, bid. The alternative is not getting th eitem, and you may not find it being offered ever again, or for a long while.

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12 Feb 2022
10:39:38pm

re: A bit of a dilemma

bid

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons
16 Feb 2022
12:28:41pm

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re: A bit of a dilemma

https://dee2fx0lhl024.cloudfront.net/auc ...

This auction lot was estimated at £100 to £150. As well as this stockcard there were 3 others showing stamps of a later vintage into the early part of the 20th century.

As a buyer I was cheesed off at the price it fetched. If I was the seller I would have been happy with the £2600!!

Auctions are a lottery, whether you are buying or selling.




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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
23 Mar 2022
04:16:59am

re: A bit of a dilemma

" ... you may not find it being offered ever again ..."

There have been several lots over the years that
came up at a time when I had already spent or
bid on as much as I could afford that week or that
month that I've never seen offered again at a
similar price.

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Tom in Exton, PA
26 Mar 2022
08:32:54pm

re: A bit of a dilemma

When I see things I would like to own, I bid on them. Usually by snipe bid so I'm not displaying my high bids to others who would wish to outbid me.

Sometimes I'm successful... yeah me! Other times I'm not successful, but at least I made someone else pay a bit more for outbidding me! Happy

And the seller did a bit better too!


There have been times when I see something I've been Jonesing about and I see it when I'm in a bad position to spend money. Many years ago I had just closed on my new house here in Pennsylvania. A model car that is absolutely the rarest comes up for sale on eBay. I wasn't in a position to frivolously spend money... but there it was! And I hadn't seen one like this in ages. There were a few other times previously I was in the same boat but passed. This time I reasoned there would never be the perfect time, so I hit that "Buy It Now" button!

Yes, I paid $450 for a model car. But nothing bad happened to me for doing so. And I since have not seen another one this nice. Other poorer ones have become available over the years and have sold for much more, so I'm pretty darn pleased!

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JohnnyStamp

26 Mar 2022
09:38:46pm

re: A bit of a dilemma

Bid as much as you are comfortable spending.

On another note.. over the years I have had at least 3 different buyers tell me they won't bid on an item if someone else has placed a bid, and I've had a few bidders get quite angry when they are out bid.
Larry

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27 Mar 2022
10:23:57am

re: A bit of a dilemma

" ... I've had a few bidders get quite angry when they are out bid. ..."

That is the kind of crybaby attitude that led to the secret Santa bidding numbers. ( at least in part.)

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "

Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
27 Mar 2022
10:41:04am

re: A bit of a dilemma

" ... On another note.. over the years I have had
at least 3 different buyers tell me they won't bid
on an item if someone else has placed a bid, ....
"

There were several such members at the local
stamp club so I stopped entering lots unless
they adopted a "second bidder" rule. Meaning
that if there were not at least two bids from
different members, the lot was withdrawn.
Only two or three members agreed with me so
after a while ( a short while) the lifeless auction
died a sad, but unlamented death.
I had enjoyed entering lots at a low opening
bid and but expected some form of activity.
A different club had that kind of rule and their
club auctions evening were a spirited game
of wits.
Very few lots went un-bid on and un-won. It
seemed that once the "ice" was broken bidders
would get in the spirit of things.
The one difference I noticed was that the first
club, here in "God's Waiting Room" was
populated by older members. In fact I was, at
the time one of the youngest members.
The second club was made up of mostly military
members on Guam where there were/are big
Navy, Coast Guard, and Air Force bases and I
think all were younger and perhaps a bit more
adventuresome.

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27 Mar 2022
01:22:49pm

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re: A bit of a dilemma

" they won't bid on an item if someone else has placed a bid,"



Sounds like Stamporama.Sad

"There were several such members at the local stamp club so I stopped entering lots unless they adopted a "second bidder" rule."



That would be difficult here.


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Tom in Exton, PA
28 Mar 2022
09:37:38pm

re: A bit of a dilemma

"The one difference I noticed was that the first
club, here in "God's Waiting Room" was
populated by older members. In fact I was, at
the time one of the youngest members."



I left that club at year's end. I declined to renew my membership.

At 63 I was probably the youngest member. One member repeatedly asked the club to change the meeting time from evening to afternoons, "just in case there is an old guy out there somewhere who doesn't drive at night who may join the club." Forget the fact that I and another 2-3 members are still amongst the working.

I explained that changing the meeting time to a daytime on a weekday would cut off any possibility of anyone young joining. The club just reeked of old. Every so often someone younger would attend a meeting or two, then wouldn't return. So I got out!


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29 Mar 2022
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re: A bit of a dilemma

I do not attend the closest club because it is at night.

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