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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : MIA

 

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snowy12
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19 Feb 2022
11:03:25pm

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I was wondering why this lot from the UK took a month longer than the sellers estimated delivery time to me in Australia !!!!
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20 Feb 2022
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20 Feb 2022
04:27:05am
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I had one of these a very long time ago. It was sent from Sydney to Blackburn, Melbourne, via Blackburn, Lancashire

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pigdoc

20 Feb 2022
08:12:20am
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I'm still waiting on a purchase from the UK on November 20. I figure it's stuck in a back corner somewhere. Ended up there right when Omicron emerged, and they're still working towards that back corner.

More recently, I've received shipments from the UK in 10 days or less.

I believe we're kind of at the mercy of space available on the (limited) intercontinental flights these days.

Note to international sellers: It's probably a good idea to retain some form of 'proof of mailing', even if it's just a PO receipt. As a buyer, that's always the first thing I inquire about, and I have yet to get a response with such a receipt.

Like I've been saying, I would gladly pay a couple of bucks for a tracking number, on all my orders. And, what better proof of mailing could there be?

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Brechinite

20 Feb 2022
08:40:07am
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" I would gladly pay a couple of bucks for a tracking number, on all my orders."



YUP!!

Folkies say "I wouldn't mind paying an extra couple of bucks for tracked."

BUT

Are they willing to pay...... $7 extra??? That's the added cost of tracking from the UK to the US.

Nay.....Nay.....and thrice.....Nay!

There is still no guarantee that the "tracked" item will arrive !!

I must remind folks that even with "tracked" mail a seller, when claiming from the postal service, MUST provide evidence to what the SELLER paid for the goods NOT the value of the Sale.

How does a seller of 100 or 1000 stamps prove what they paid for them when the stamps may have come from a dozen different sources and a dozen different years..

They can only claim for the cost of the postage which normally isn't worth the time or effort of claiming.

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pigdoc

20 Feb 2022
09:11:05am
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To me, tracking is nothing more than proof of mailing.
As a seller, it would allow me to say, "It's not my fault. See, the PO acknowledges that they received the item."

If you've ever presented a tracking number at the PO and asked them to find out where the item is, you've been vastly disappointed.

Some time ago, nystamps went from charging $2.19 base shipping on each order (through eBay, with tracking) to offering free shipping on all orders. Great, huh? Only, they outsourced the shipping to someone who truly doesn't know what they're doing. The addressee labels are applied with packing tape, such that the sorter-printed barcode at the bottom edge is not properly printed and unreadable. And, so, transit times have become quite random, depending on how soon the PO gets to manually sorting these improperly prepared items.

I have made several appeals to nystamps to get their shipping outsource tuned up, to no avail. All I hear in reply is cricket chirping noises and nothing changes.

-Paul






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Brechinite

20 Feb 2022
09:48:13am
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""It's not my fault. See, the PO acknowledges that they received the item.""



You don't need "tracking" to prove you posted an item. There is "proof of postage" which you can only get when you hand items "over the counter".

Some post offices will not do this if you have already put stamps on the envelope. Why? You didn't buy the stamps here! If there are no stamps then they stick on one of these god awful labels.

Most sellers know that things go into the postal system and never appear ever again, whether tracked, signed for, registered, stamped or unstamped.

"To me, tracking is nothing more than proof of mailing."



Sellers have to take "on trust" that buyers have received the items they have paid for so why shouldn't buyers "take on trust" that the sellers have shipped the items.

Yes there are "dodgy" sellers but there are also "dodgy" buyers.

The vast majority of Buyers and Sellers are honest decent folks and are aware of the shortcomings of the various postal services and accept that, unfortunately, things do disappear into the great void of the postal system never to be seen again!
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pigdoc

20 Feb 2022
03:45:44pm
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"Sellers have to take "on trust" that buyers have received the items they have paid for so why shouldn't buyers "take on trust" that the sellers have shipped the items."



I have a simple answer to that question. Once the buyer pays for the item, the seller has BOTH the item AND the money. Buyers deserve to be wary of unscrupulous sellers. As a buyer, I don't trust eBay to effectively police their sellers. I think everyone acknowledges that the feedback system that eBay has is ineffective.

"Yes there are "dodgy" sellers but there are also "dodgy" buyers."



All the more reason for sellers to protect their backsides, by obtaining proof of mailing, however it can be obtained.

I shouldn't say this, but I don't remember ever not receiving an item because the PO lost it, over thousands of shipments. KNOCK ON WOOD!!!

As incredibly inefficient and unreliable USPS is, for me, they've always met the ultimate goal: delivering the item.

-Paul
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21 Feb 2022
02:36:57pm

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i don't think a month delay is long for a UK package addressed to the US when Australia was the intended country.

I'm impressed that the folks at USPS know their geography well enough to recognize "SA" as a state in Australia.


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Tom in Exton, PA

21 Feb 2022
03:17:57pm
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Hmmmm. Sometimes I wonder.

On a Facebook group for eBay hobby sellers, they're whining about how many USPS packages they've lost, even with tracking! Maybe because you are using that eBay 53 Cents Indica with tracking included? It's an easy identifier that something small of value is in that envelope! As bad as that eBay tape they keep trying to give to me! It might as well be stamped STEAL ME! instead of eBay.

At the same time, I've shipped over 1500 lots worldwide without an issue. I have had people inquire about slow mails, but it all eventually turned up where it was aimed. And what do my packages look like? Number 10 envelope with my personal return address, a "Do Not Bend" handstamp and okay... yea, a turtle hand stamp too! I worried at first that the multiple older stamps I used might be an issue, but not so far.

And just today I got a sale to China. A dollar cover with $1.50 shipping. Buyer indicates "MUST DO TRACKING". I think it needs to be something like Registered Mail for $17.50 to get tracking... so guess what he's not getting!

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Brechinite

21 Feb 2022
03:34:03pm
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"Registered Mail for $17.50 to get tracking"



That's the problem with tracking..........the COST!!!
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24 Feb 2022
09:04:35pm
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" ... A dollar cover with $1.50 shipping. Buyer indicates "MUST DO TRACKING". ..."

Sample letter;
Dear sir,
I have checked the local cost of tracking, Penn's Woods to BFE, China, at your request. Please forward $18.50 USD ($17.50 +$1.oo added handling = $18.50). Meanwhile I will set your purchase aside until I hear from you.
Amen.

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snowy12

19 Feb 2022
11:03:25pm

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I was wondering why this lot from the UK took a month longer than the sellers estimated delivery time to me in Australia !!!!
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20 Feb 2022
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DaveSheridan

20 Feb 2022
04:27:05am

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I had one of these a very long time ago. It was sent from Sydney to Blackburn, Melbourne, via Blackburn, Lancashire

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pigdoc

20 Feb 2022
08:12:20am

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I'm still waiting on a purchase from the UK on November 20. I figure it's stuck in a back corner somewhere. Ended up there right when Omicron emerged, and they're still working towards that back corner.

More recently, I've received shipments from the UK in 10 days or less.

I believe we're kind of at the mercy of space available on the (limited) intercontinental flights these days.

Note to international sellers: It's probably a good idea to retain some form of 'proof of mailing', even if it's just a PO receipt. As a buyer, that's always the first thing I inquire about, and I have yet to get a response with such a receipt.

Like I've been saying, I would gladly pay a couple of bucks for a tracking number, on all my orders. And, what better proof of mailing could there be?

-Paul

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Brechinite

20 Feb 2022
08:40:07am

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" I would gladly pay a couple of bucks for a tracking number, on all my orders."



YUP!!

Folkies say "I wouldn't mind paying an extra couple of bucks for tracked."

BUT

Are they willing to pay...... $7 extra??? That's the added cost of tracking from the UK to the US.

Nay.....Nay.....and thrice.....Nay!

There is still no guarantee that the "tracked" item will arrive !!

I must remind folks that even with "tracked" mail a seller, when claiming from the postal service, MUST provide evidence to what the SELLER paid for the goods NOT the value of the Sale.

How does a seller of 100 or 1000 stamps prove what they paid for them when the stamps may have come from a dozen different sources and a dozen different years..

They can only claim for the cost of the postage which normally isn't worth the time or effort of claiming.

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pigdoc

20 Feb 2022
09:11:05am

re: MIA

To me, tracking is nothing more than proof of mailing.
As a seller, it would allow me to say, "It's not my fault. See, the PO acknowledges that they received the item."

If you've ever presented a tracking number at the PO and asked them to find out where the item is, you've been vastly disappointed.

Some time ago, nystamps went from charging $2.19 base shipping on each order (through eBay, with tracking) to offering free shipping on all orders. Great, huh? Only, they outsourced the shipping to someone who truly doesn't know what they're doing. The addressee labels are applied with packing tape, such that the sorter-printed barcode at the bottom edge is not properly printed and unreadable. And, so, transit times have become quite random, depending on how soon the PO gets to manually sorting these improperly prepared items.

I have made several appeals to nystamps to get their shipping outsource tuned up, to no avail. All I hear in reply is cricket chirping noises and nothing changes.

-Paul






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Brechinite

20 Feb 2022
09:48:13am

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""It's not my fault. See, the PO acknowledges that they received the item.""



You don't need "tracking" to prove you posted an item. There is "proof of postage" which you can only get when you hand items "over the counter".

Some post offices will not do this if you have already put stamps on the envelope. Why? You didn't buy the stamps here! If there are no stamps then they stick on one of these god awful labels.

Most sellers know that things go into the postal system and never appear ever again, whether tracked, signed for, registered, stamped or unstamped.

"To me, tracking is nothing more than proof of mailing."



Sellers have to take "on trust" that buyers have received the items they have paid for so why shouldn't buyers "take on trust" that the sellers have shipped the items.

Yes there are "dodgy" sellers but there are also "dodgy" buyers.

The vast majority of Buyers and Sellers are honest decent folks and are aware of the shortcomings of the various postal services and accept that, unfortunately, things do disappear into the great void of the postal system never to be seen again!
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pigdoc

20 Feb 2022
03:45:44pm

re: MIA

"Sellers have to take "on trust" that buyers have received the items they have paid for so why shouldn't buyers "take on trust" that the sellers have shipped the items."



I have a simple answer to that question. Once the buyer pays for the item, the seller has BOTH the item AND the money. Buyers deserve to be wary of unscrupulous sellers. As a buyer, I don't trust eBay to effectively police their sellers. I think everyone acknowledges that the feedback system that eBay has is ineffective.

"Yes there are "dodgy" sellers but there are also "dodgy" buyers."



All the more reason for sellers to protect their backsides, by obtaining proof of mailing, however it can be obtained.

I shouldn't say this, but I don't remember ever not receiving an item because the PO lost it, over thousands of shipments. KNOCK ON WOOD!!!

As incredibly inefficient and unreliable USPS is, for me, they've always met the ultimate goal: delivering the item.

-Paul
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21 Feb 2022
02:36:57pm

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i don't think a month delay is long for a UK package addressed to the US when Australia was the intended country.

I'm impressed that the folks at USPS know their geography well enough to recognize "SA" as a state in Australia.


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Tom in Exton, PA
21 Feb 2022
03:17:57pm

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Hmmmm. Sometimes I wonder.

On a Facebook group for eBay hobby sellers, they're whining about how many USPS packages they've lost, even with tracking! Maybe because you are using that eBay 53 Cents Indica with tracking included? It's an easy identifier that something small of value is in that envelope! As bad as that eBay tape they keep trying to give to me! It might as well be stamped STEAL ME! instead of eBay.

At the same time, I've shipped over 1500 lots worldwide without an issue. I have had people inquire about slow mails, but it all eventually turned up where it was aimed. And what do my packages look like? Number 10 envelope with my personal return address, a "Do Not Bend" handstamp and okay... yea, a turtle hand stamp too! I worried at first that the multiple older stamps I used might be an issue, but not so far.

And just today I got a sale to China. A dollar cover with $1.50 shipping. Buyer indicates "MUST DO TRACKING". I think it needs to be something like Registered Mail for $17.50 to get tracking... so guess what he's not getting!

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Brechinite

21 Feb 2022
03:34:03pm

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"Registered Mail for $17.50 to get tracking"



That's the problem with tracking..........the COST!!!
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"Gonnae no dae that!..........Just gonnae no!"

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24 Feb 2022
09:04:35pm

re: MIA

" ... A dollar cover with $1.50 shipping. Buyer indicates "MUST DO TRACKING". ..."

Sample letter;
Dear sir,
I have checked the local cost of tracking, Penn's Woods to BFE, China, at your request. Please forward $18.50 USD ($17.50 +$1.oo added handling = $18.50). Meanwhile I will set your purchase aside until I hear from you.
Amen.

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