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Sales, Swaps, Auction & Approvals/Auction Disc. : A suggestion for labeling new lots

 

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Harvey
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21 Feb 2022
03:48:55pm
I'm not sure how popular this will be. I notice at least one seller in the auction section is trying to alert people to the fact that his lots really are new by putting "new lots really" in his title. This is a great idea but I don't think it should be necessary. There are a heck of a lot of recycled items in the auction section, as has been discussed in many threads. Several times I have to check the same stamps against my want list just in case some are new. How about a way to tell? New lots are done with "new" in yellow. What if we did non-recycled new lots with "new" in red? Is this doable? Is it a stupid idea? Comments please!!

Edit: Please don't look at this as a criticism of sellers, it is meant to be seen as a help to buyers.
Edit#2: Just checked the new auction lots and found a wonderful Russia souvenir sheet (doesn't happen often) and an amazing older overprinted St. Pierre & Miquelon stamp - made my day! Thanks to the wonderful sellers on SoR (Larry and Greg) who are good enough to put more expensive items on auction for very fair prices!

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Brechinite

21 Feb 2022
07:31:15pm

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re: A suggestion for labeling new lots

I would like to point out that even those sellers that limit themselves to the old adage of only listing an item 3 times may list for a total of 42 days (3 x 14).

Thus some buyers, especially those that trawl the auctions daily or even twice daily, think that they are seeing the same old items time and time again.

The total number of items up for auction/buy it now varies between 3600 and 6000 per day. (Quite a dismal amount)

If Sellers were able to list an item longer than 14 days and only once for say 35 days, it would reduce the number of re-entries and anything appearing in the "New Items" would be genuinely "New".

However Seller A may list item x, Seller B may list item x 2 days later and Seller C may list item x 5 days later etc etc which may still give the impression that the buyer is still seeing the same old stamps again and again.

It could free up time for sellers to list more items thus increasing choice.

What I have also done in the past is taken any unsold auction lots and made up a Worldwide Approval Book and yes some of the items that failed to sell in the auctions sold from the Approval Book!!


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21 Feb 2022
09:51:06pm
re: A suggestion for labeling new lots

All I do is check the New lots for auction items. Some days there are 32, the next, 639!

I'll click and click until I'm tired of clicking & move on.

It would be nice if the New Items section would be new to me. I keep seeing the same old lots that were listed on my previous visit(s).

Just my 2¢ worth...


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HolocaustStamps

22 Feb 2022
09:18:19am
re: A suggestion for labeling new lots

We have a New Items section which is obviously great saving time looking through omnibus issues.

We also have Ending Soon which are probably just waiting to be relisted.

How about a new section Final Sale (or some better title) where sellers relist an item one last time at the absolute lowest price they can live with. To keep it simple, all would be a 10 day listing, BIN only, no relisting.

Personally, I’d like it because if they don’t sell there I can just automatically put them in my Holocaust Stamps Project bin (for use in artwork) rather than r stocking them in “inventory”.

Cheers, Dave

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Brechinite

22 Feb 2022
10:54:42am

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re: A suggestion for labeling new lots

There is of course another solution.

Use the countries button, and the search facility for a keyword or seller.

If I am looking for GB or any other country I go straight to the Country and scroll through that. I'd rather scroll through 100 items or less than 639.

Or is it that the "New Items" is used more because folkies are "terrified" of missing a "bargain"?

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Brechinite

22 Feb 2022
11:00:48am

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re: A suggestion for labeling new lots

"How about a new section Final Sale (or some better title) where sellers relist an item one last time at the absolute lowest price they can live with. To keep it simple, all would be a 10 day listing, BIN only, no relisting."



The more "selective" buyers would then look at the "Final Sale" and possibly ignore items in the "standard" auction!
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michael78651

22 Feb 2022
11:35:41am
re: A suggestion for labeling new lots

My views:

If you want to see the newest auction items, you can click on "NEW ITEMS" found in the blue bar of the Auction page.

Auctions by nature are short-lived. I would not be in favor of auctions lasting beyond the current 14 day maximum.

There are many filters when viewing auctions to reduce the number of lots you will see. Ian mentions clicking on a country, for one.

I find comments in item titles, such as "New Lots really" to be superfluous, and mess up searches with the added wordage.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
21 Feb 2022
03:48:55pm

I'm not sure how popular this will be. I notice at least one seller in the auction section is trying to alert people to the fact that his lots really are new by putting "new lots really" in his title. This is a great idea but I don't think it should be necessary. There are a heck of a lot of recycled items in the auction section, as has been discussed in many threads. Several times I have to check the same stamps against my want list just in case some are new. How about a way to tell? New lots are done with "new" in yellow. What if we did non-recycled new lots with "new" in red? Is this doable? Is it a stupid idea? Comments please!!

Edit: Please don't look at this as a criticism of sellers, it is meant to be seen as a help to buyers.
Edit#2: Just checked the new auction lots and found a wonderful Russia souvenir sheet (doesn't happen often) and an amazing older overprinted St. Pierre & Miquelon stamp - made my day! Thanks to the wonderful sellers on SoR (Larry and Greg) who are good enough to put more expensive items on auction for very fair prices!

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Brechinite

21 Feb 2022
07:31:15pm

Auctions - Approvals

re: A suggestion for labeling new lots

I would like to point out that even those sellers that limit themselves to the old adage of only listing an item 3 times may list for a total of 42 days (3 x 14).

Thus some buyers, especially those that trawl the auctions daily or even twice daily, think that they are seeing the same old items time and time again.

The total number of items up for auction/buy it now varies between 3600 and 6000 per day. (Quite a dismal amount)

If Sellers were able to list an item longer than 14 days and only once for say 35 days, it would reduce the number of re-entries and anything appearing in the "New Items" would be genuinely "New".

However Seller A may list item x, Seller B may list item x 2 days later and Seller C may list item x 5 days later etc etc which may still give the impression that the buyer is still seeing the same old stamps again and again.

It could free up time for sellers to list more items thus increasing choice.

What I have also done in the past is taken any unsold auction lots and made up a Worldwide Approval Book and yes some of the items that failed to sell in the auctions sold from the Approval Book!!


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21 Feb 2022
09:51:06pm

re: A suggestion for labeling new lots

All I do is check the New lots for auction items. Some days there are 32, the next, 639!

I'll click and click until I'm tired of clicking & move on.

It would be nice if the New Items section would be new to me. I keep seeing the same old lots that were listed on my previous visit(s).

Just my 2¢ worth...


Peter

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HolocaustStamps

22 Feb 2022
09:18:19am

re: A suggestion for labeling new lots

We have a New Items section which is obviously great saving time looking through omnibus issues.

We also have Ending Soon which are probably just waiting to be relisted.

How about a new section Final Sale (or some better title) where sellers relist an item one last time at the absolute lowest price they can live with. To keep it simple, all would be a 10 day listing, BIN only, no relisting.

Personally, I’d like it because if they don’t sell there I can just automatically put them in my Holocaust Stamps Project bin (for use in artwork) rather than r stocking them in “inventory”.

Cheers, Dave

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Brechinite

22 Feb 2022
10:54:42am

Auctions - Approvals

re: A suggestion for labeling new lots

There is of course another solution.

Use the countries button, and the search facility for a keyword or seller.

If I am looking for GB or any other country I go straight to the Country and scroll through that. I'd rather scroll through 100 items or less than 639.

Or is it that the "New Items" is used more because folkies are "terrified" of missing a "bargain"?

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Brechinite

22 Feb 2022
11:00:48am

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re: A suggestion for labeling new lots

"How about a new section Final Sale (or some better title) where sellers relist an item one last time at the absolute lowest price they can live with. To keep it simple, all would be a 10 day listing, BIN only, no relisting."



The more "selective" buyers would then look at the "Final Sale" and possibly ignore items in the "standard" auction!
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michael78651

22 Feb 2022
11:35:41am

re: A suggestion for labeling new lots

My views:

If you want to see the newest auction items, you can click on "NEW ITEMS" found in the blue bar of the Auction page.

Auctions by nature are short-lived. I would not be in favor of auctions lasting beyond the current 14 day maximum.

There are many filters when viewing auctions to reduce the number of lots you will see. Ian mentions clicking on a country, for one.

I find comments in item titles, such as "New Lots really" to be superfluous, and mess up searches with the added wordage.

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