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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

 

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bigcreekdad
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08 Apr 2022
11:37:44am
Colors can be tough. The choice here is either rose red, or carmine. When I can't clearly ID, I usually take the lowest valued stamp. In this case, there is quite a difference in value between the two colors. Any opinions? BTW, the stamp has not been hinged.

Thanks in advance.

As an aside, I tried posting this nearly identical query on the Postage Stamp Chatboard (May not be verbatim, but substantively identical), and got banned for 30 days by Glen Stephens for not following the rules. But he doesn't tell me what rules I broke. My second time. Too bad, that forum has some pretty knowledgable folks, especially related to British Commonwealth stamps. Arghh!

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Charlie2009
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08 Apr 2022
12:00:07pm
re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

Rose Red. Hex:BF3033 (Pink red)

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HockeyNut
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08 Apr 2022
01:02:15pm
re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

If you count the perforation holes on the top side of the stamp you will count 25 of them.

So
26 perforation holes = FRIEDENSdruck
32 A a yellowish red
32 A b carmine

25 perforation holes = KRIEGSdruck
32 B red carmine

So yours is 32 B only one color. CV Mint Never Hinged 220 euros and Mint 65 euros
Interesting point here is that your stamp 32B was only sold in BERLIN at the special collector counter.


@Charlie2009 : Never detect the color by a computer program.

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bigcreekdad
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08 Apr 2022
03:38:36pm
re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

Very interesting HockeyNut. However, did you mean 34a? I'm using Scott numbers.

Also, where did you get the info re:number of perf holes. Genuinely curious.

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gerom

09 Apr 2022
04:06:28am
re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

The translation of the colours from German into English is not quite right.
There are two colours:
-dunkelkarmin=darkcarmin (the UV lamp shows yellowish red or carmine)
-rotKarmin = red carmine
You have the description in the Michel and Michel Colour Guide catalogue.

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On your stamp (25x17 holes) the centre of the stamp should be type II. (see catalogue)

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Something is wrong.

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09 Apr 2022
08:01:57am
re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

Gerom...you completely lost me. What do you mean "something's wrong"?

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HockeyNut
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09 Apr 2022
10:08:11am
re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

There is nothing wrong here.

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I marked the areas with a red circle in this stamp and they correspond with type II picture gerom.

So it is Michel number 32B with centre piece type II.

And Michel 32B is Scott 34a
(I found that on this website : https://www.germanstamps.net/collection- ... )

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09 Apr 2022
10:15:02am
re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

Thanks Hockeynut! Closure!

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09 Apr 2022
10:15:17am
re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

Bye the way,

More info over those frames and center types :

https://www.germanstamps.net/colonial-fr ...

Excellent site ! Applause Thumbs Up Big Hug

Remember that if you collect german stamps.

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gerom

09 Apr 2022
10:53:05am
re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

HockeyNut you have better eyesight than me.
I didn't see the 2 cutouts in the center.
I thought it was type I center.
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bigcreekdad

08 Apr 2022
11:37:44am

Colors can be tough. The choice here is either rose red, or carmine. When I can't clearly ID, I usually take the lowest valued stamp. In this case, there is quite a difference in value between the two colors. Any opinions? BTW, the stamp has not been hinged.

Thanks in advance.

As an aside, I tried posting this nearly identical query on the Postage Stamp Chatboard (May not be verbatim, but substantively identical), and got banned for 30 days by Glen Stephens for not following the rules. But he doesn't tell me what rules I broke. My second time. Too bad, that forum has some pretty knowledgable folks, especially related to British Commonwealth stamps. Arghh!

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08 Apr 2022
12:00:07pm

re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

Rose Red. Hex:BF3033 (Pink red)

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HockeyNut

08 Apr 2022
01:02:15pm

re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

If you count the perforation holes on the top side of the stamp you will count 25 of them.

So
26 perforation holes = FRIEDENSdruck
32 A a yellowish red
32 A b carmine

25 perforation holes = KRIEGSdruck
32 B red carmine

So yours is 32 B only one color. CV Mint Never Hinged 220 euros and Mint 65 euros
Interesting point here is that your stamp 32B was only sold in BERLIN at the special collector counter.


@Charlie2009 : Never detect the color by a computer program.

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bigcreekdad

08 Apr 2022
03:38:36pm

re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

Very interesting HockeyNut. However, did you mean 34a? I'm using Scott numbers.

Also, where did you get the info re:number of perf holes. Genuinely curious.

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gerom

09 Apr 2022
04:06:28am

re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

The translation of the colours from German into English is not quite right.
There are two colours:
-dunkelkarmin=darkcarmin (the UV lamp shows yellowish red or carmine)
-rotKarmin = red carmine
You have the description in the Michel and Michel Colour Guide catalogue.

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On your stamp (25x17 holes) the centre of the stamp should be type II. (see catalogue)

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Something is wrong.

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bigcreekdad

09 Apr 2022
08:01:57am

re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

Gerom...you completely lost me. What do you mean "something's wrong"?

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HockeyNut

09 Apr 2022
10:08:11am

re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

There is nothing wrong here.

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I marked the areas with a red circle in this stamp and they correspond with type II picture gerom.

So it is Michel number 32B with centre piece type II.

And Michel 32B is Scott 34a
(I found that on this website : https://www.germanstamps.net/collection- ... )

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bigcreekdad

09 Apr 2022
10:15:02am

re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

Thanks Hockeynut! Closure!

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HockeyNut

09 Apr 2022
10:15:17am

re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

Bye the way,

More info over those frames and center types :

https://www.germanstamps.net/colonial-fr ...

Excellent site ! Applause Thumbs Up Big Hug

Remember that if you collect german stamps.

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gerom

09 Apr 2022
10:53:05am

re: Need color ID for German SW Africa stamp...is it Scott 34, or 34a?

HockeyNut you have better eyesight than me.
I didn't see the 2 cutouts in the center.
I thought it was type I center.
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