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I have to say, I really enjoy most of the posts from the French Polynesia Stamp Club. I love seeing the posts about your stamps and your members and the activities that are going on, but there is an element in your club where you have two groups of people who want to make it very clear that "I'm better than you". This attitude just doesn't work for me. We are all stamp collectors and are members here because we all enjoy the hobby of stamp collecting. It is a wonderful hobby. As such I will be removing posts or parts of posts that go towards this "I'm better than you" idea.
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Tim Auld
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I for one fully support Tim's position on this matter.
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"This attitude just doesn't work for me. We are all stamp collectors and are members here because we all enjoy the hobby of stamp collecting. It is a wonderful hobby. As such I will be removing posts or parts of posts that go towards this "I'm better than you" idea."
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""I'm better than you" idea.""
There are 3 sub groups in this club. Commoners, Internal Philists & Professors.
It is the ranking in the club & not I'm better than you idea.
If you think ranking is I'm better than you idea, than
what about High School's Freshman, Junior & Senior ranking?
What about Employee, Manager & CEO ranking ?
What about Soldier, Captain & General ranking ?
.
By the way, what happened to disappeared articles here? so much censorship.
I regret I invited my stamp club here, I knew there was a chance they might get hurt but
I was too naive thinking they would be safe here. Now, I have to talk to Public Relations, I hope she won't cry.
Rogelio Lee
French Polynesia Stamp Club.
PS- Tahitian are very sensitive & loving people. It is their nature to avoid all confrontations. This is why they can't debate or argue.
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05:18:19pm
I may be opening myself up to criticism but there is something about 1112 posts that I don't like, and I'm not sure if I can say what it is - that makes me a bit nervous, but I can live with it. I am a person who is open to any ideas, but I no longer read their posts. I don't really understand where my attitude is coming from and I am actually a little ashamed of it, but, I guess "it is what it is"!
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"Tahitian are very sensitive & loving people. It is their nature to avoid all confrontations. This is why they can't debate or argue."
I can attest that is a true statement for any parts of the South Pacific I am familiar with.
You are dealing with cultural differences and translation issues here. I believe that the "better than thou" has been adequately explained and it is no different than many stamp clubs here in the states.
Just my 2 cents.
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"There are 3 sub groups in this club. Commoners, Internal Philists & Professors.
It is the ranking in the club"
In my opinion, this is the "hidden element" that rankles certain members (including me).
If this were "Beginners, Intermediate and Advanced Collectors", and the designation was one that was selected by the collector himself, that would be considered normal.
However, a "rank"?. And a comparison to other regimented institutions (school, military, corporations)? Who decides? Who elevates one to the next level? Is there an exam?
This is what offends the sensibilities in a hobby club like Stamporama. We all have different levels of experience, but no one "decides" on an elevation to the next level.
The other element that offends is the pontificating by the highest level. Like their word is god and not to be challenged.
Roy
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Rogelio,
I haven't removed any articles from this thread or any other that the French Polynesian people have posted. The articles deleted from this thread were done so by your own people.
Regards ... Tim.
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There are cultural and language differences and barriers that pop up when one tries to judge by one's own standards. But international sensitivities are very hard to master.
Kidding apart, words do have a very different meaning in different cultures. Ever heard a Japanese say no?
I hope the French Polynesian stamp club will continue to post here. I, for one, find it refreshing and informative. And we sure miss in this Club (review Roy's post) something other than sales related discussions. The French Polynesian posts were a unique contribution here.
Please keep on participating here!
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"I no longer read their posts"
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Commoner, Internal Philatelist & Professor are 3 sub groups in French Polynesia Club only.
These 3 ranks are determined by:
* Entrance Exam
* Personal Interview
* Linguistic Skill
* Research Paper
* Years of Contribution
* Possession: Degree, License & Certification
Ranks are finalized by Polynesian Philately Committee in conjunction with Philatelic Center of French Polynesia. Ranks has nothing to do with "I'm better than you idea". I'm a Commoner (Beginner), but we are treated equally in French Polynesia Stamp Club. I don't have 10 hours to fight the accusation, I'm in the hospital visiting that old man who got censored on this thread. God, I pray he recover.
Rogelio Lee
French Polynesia Stamp Club.
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Rogelio,
I hope your friend is OK.
Tim.
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08:10:21am
"I no longer read their posts"
I didn't really mean that statement to be offensive. There are many posts I don't read because of one reason or another, usually because the topic doesn't interest me at that time. It doesn't mean that I have anything against the person doing the post, I mainly read posts that pertain to my areas of interest. I'm not particularly interested in the topics that some people talk about, that doesn't mean that I disrespect your opinion and your right to have it. I comment on things that interest me and I only expect people who are interested in the same things to read what I write!
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I hope your friend fully recovers, and quickly. Please pass along our best wishes to him, if you would.
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I have to say, I really enjoy most of the posts from the French Polynesia Stamp Club. I love seeing the posts about your stamps and your members and the activities that are going on, but there is an element in your club where you have two groups of people who want to make it very clear that "I'm better than you". This attitude just doesn't work for me. We are all stamp collectors and are members here because we all enjoy the hobby of stamp collecting. It is a wonderful hobby. As such I will be removing posts or parts of posts that go towards this "I'm better than you" idea.
Regards,
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"This attitude just doesn't work for me. We are all stamp collectors and are members here because we all enjoy the hobby of stamp collecting. It is a wonderful hobby. As such I will be removing posts or parts of posts that go towards this "I'm better than you" idea."
Bravo!
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""I'm better than you" idea.""
There are 3 sub groups in this club. Commoners, Internal Philists & Professors.
It is the ranking in the club & not I'm better than you idea.
If you think ranking is I'm better than you idea, than
what about High School's Freshman, Junior & Senior ranking?
What about Employee, Manager & CEO ranking ?
What about Soldier, Captain & General ranking ?
.
By the way, what happened to disappeared articles here? so much censorship.
I regret I invited my stamp club here, I knew there was a chance they might get hurt but
I was too naive thinking they would be safe here. Now, I have to talk to Public Relations, I hope she won't cry.
Rogelio Lee
French Polynesia Stamp Club.
PS- Tahitian are very sensitive & loving people. It is their nature to avoid all confrontations. This is why they can't debate or argue.
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I may be opening myself up to criticism but there is something about 1112 posts that I don't like, and I'm not sure if I can say what it is - that makes me a bit nervous, but I can live with it. I am a person who is open to any ideas, but I no longer read their posts. I don't really understand where my attitude is coming from and I am actually a little ashamed of it, but, I guess "it is what it is"!
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"Tahitian are very sensitive & loving people. It is their nature to avoid all confrontations. This is why they can't debate or argue."
I can attest that is a true statement for any parts of the South Pacific I am familiar with.
You are dealing with cultural differences and translation issues here. I believe that the "better than thou" has been adequately explained and it is no different than many stamp clubs here in the states.
Just my 2 cents.
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"There are 3 sub groups in this club. Commoners, Internal Philists & Professors.
It is the ranking in the club"
In my opinion, this is the "hidden element" that rankles certain members (including me).
If this were "Beginners, Intermediate and Advanced Collectors", and the designation was one that was selected by the collector himself, that would be considered normal.
However, a "rank"?. And a comparison to other regimented institutions (school, military, corporations)? Who decides? Who elevates one to the next level? Is there an exam?
This is what offends the sensibilities in a hobby club like Stamporama. We all have different levels of experience, but no one "decides" on an elevation to the next level.
The other element that offends is the pontificating by the highest level. Like their word is god and not to be challenged.
Roy
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Rogelio,
I haven't removed any articles from this thread or any other that the French Polynesian people have posted. The articles deleted from this thread were done so by your own people.
Regards ... Tim.
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There are cultural and language differences and barriers that pop up when one tries to judge by one's own standards. But international sensitivities are very hard to master.
Kidding apart, words do have a very different meaning in different cultures. Ever heard a Japanese say no?
I hope the French Polynesian stamp club will continue to post here. I, for one, find it refreshing and informative. And we sure miss in this Club (review Roy's post) something other than sales related discussions. The French Polynesian posts were a unique contribution here.
Please keep on participating here!
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(Modified by Moderator on 2022-04-10 06:00:01)
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"I no longer read their posts"
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Commoner, Internal Philatelist & Professor are 3 sub groups in French Polynesia Club only.
These 3 ranks are determined by:
* Entrance Exam
* Personal Interview
* Linguistic Skill
* Research Paper
* Years of Contribution
* Possession: Degree, License & Certification
Ranks are finalized by Polynesian Philately Committee in conjunction with Philatelic Center of French Polynesia. Ranks has nothing to do with "I'm better than you idea". I'm a Commoner (Beginner), but we are treated equally in French Polynesia Stamp Club. I don't have 10 hours to fight the accusation, I'm in the hospital visiting that old man who got censored on this thread. God, I pray he recover.
Rogelio Lee
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Rogelio,
I hope your friend is OK.
Tim.
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"I no longer read their posts"
I didn't really mean that statement to be offensive. There are many posts I don't read because of one reason or another, usually because the topic doesn't interest me at that time. It doesn't mean that I have anything against the person doing the post, I mainly read posts that pertain to my areas of interest. I'm not particularly interested in the topics that some people talk about, that doesn't mean that I disrespect your opinion and your right to have it. I comment on things that interest me and I only expect people who are interested in the same things to read what I write!
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I hope your friend fully recovers, and quickly. Please pass along our best wishes to him, if you would.
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