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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

 

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15 Jul 2022
06:47:53pm
I know that I have seen a list showing the number of individual definitive stamps issued by Canada and/or the U.S. I recall that some first-class definitive stamps were issued in astonishing numbers, even more than a billion if I recall correctly. But I can't any such information in my catalogues.

I am particularly interested in knowing how many copies of Canada's 1942 "War Issue" stamps were printed, and/or the number of "Prexie" stamps issued by the U.S. in 1938.

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15 Jul 2022
08:33:05pm
re: Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

Holy cow! The Prexies ran into the late 50’s as a series. There were billions of each produced. Maybe hundreds of millions of the high values, but still a lot. Really a well done and popular series. May not be another like it in the world.

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15 Jul 2022
08:52:51pm
re: Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

The book "The Prexies" by Roland E. Rustad - Published by the Bureau Issues Association, Inc. 1994. Gives the plate impression for each plate number. Plus other interesting facts about each value.

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15 Jul 2022
09:37:08pm
re: Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

Not sure of the Prexies, but Canada's Wartime issues are:

249 1¢ green 2,543,000,000
250 2¢ brown 471,000,000
251 3¢ dark carmine 606,000,000
252 3¢ rose violet 2,118,000,000
253 4¢ greenish black 7,900,000
254 4¢ dark carmine 3,149,000,000
255 5¢ deep blue 174,000,000
256 8¢ red brown 22,979,000

257 10¢ Parliament Buildings 156,680,577
258 13¢ Tank 4,000,000
259 14¢ Tank 14,878,673
260 20¢ Corvette 62,208,106
261 50¢ Munitions Factory 16,486,515
262 $1 Destroyer 6,195,600

Coils perf 8:
263 1¢ green 26,000,000
264 2¢ brown 8,465,000
265 3¢ dark carmine 9,975,000
266 3¢ rose violet 45,990,000
267 4¢ dark carmine 47,590,000

Coils perf 9-½
278-281 not reported

A couple in the billions! Nowhere near those numbers these days! All numbers from Unitrade.


Peter

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15 Jul 2022
10:59:52pm
re: Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

BrightonPete said, "Not sure of the Prexies, but Canada's Wartime issues are:…"

Thank you, Peter. I'm curious: Where did you find those numbers? I thought they were in one of my catalogues (Scott, Scott Classic, and Unitrade) but I couldn't find them anywhere.

I needed the numbers for an article that I'm rewriting, titled "What to do when you inherit stamps". I wrote it for the BC Philatelic Society web site because, as contact person, I found that I was constantly responding to emails from people asking what they should do with their inherited collections. Instead of reinventing the wheel with every email, I wrote the article and began sending short emails including links to it. Yesterday, I got a request from Ian Smillie, a past president of the Ottawa Philatelic Society, asking if his society could use it on their web site.

One of the points I want to make in the revised article is that, for good reason, most stamps are worth little commercially because they are so common. I remembered that the 3-cent War Issue was issued in an astonishing number, but I could remember the number. And now I have it.

Bob



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16 Jul 2022
12:08:51am
re: Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

They are listed with each stamp. Perhaps if you have an older catalogue they weren't included. Here is the beginning of the War issue in my 2022 catalogue...

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16 Jul 2022
04:18:34am

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re: Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

I know that Michel also gives information about the number of stamps printed, as do most specialized country catalogues.

As far as the real value of common stamps is concerned: the practice of a minimum value can be very misleading. Although in the introduction it is said that this is only a handling fee if one buys it from a dealer, most people don't read this and think that when they have 100 stamps listed in the catalogue for 25 cents, they have a lot worth $ 25. In the real world $ 1 is more likely...
That's why I like the approach Facit, the Scandinavian catalogue, has of simply putting "M" as a value indication for common stamps, which means their value is minimal.

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25 Jul 2022
03:27:01am
re: Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

" .... think that when they have 100 stamps
listed in the catalogue for 25 cents, they have
a lot worth $ 25. In the real world ...."


Yes, in the real world on this part of planet Earth. I recently saw
an attractive lot at a friendly auction that was described and
scanned with an dream-world catalog 'value' of a bit over $4,000.

The 2,600 stamps were in a large, neat blackpaged stockbook that
would cost well over $100 by itself, new. The first few pages hold
several dozen Ceylon Victorias and Edward VIIs with a real world
value, to me anyway, of about $200. Maybe a shade more.
The balance of the twenty double sided pages are stuffed with
common keyplate issues cataloged and annotated with different perfs
and watermarks, as well as a few listed shade and color varieties.
A flyspecker's dream.
This is an area that has interested me since I visited Columbo
about sixty years ago.
I opened the bidding with a 10 dollar bid and gradually raised it to $120.
HUZZAR !
The well packed and postally stamped parcel arrived a few weeks ago
and appears to be even better than I thought.
I have already had several evening's pleasure just poking around and
I expect more, once the '#@$%&ing' contractor puts the right size tiles
in the planned stamproom and constructs the wall to wall shelves that
were ordered..
I won a similar 'France" album a few months ago and still have work to
do on that album.
The point is the auction's lotter is right if I were to sell 2,000 stamps
at 20 or 30 cents apiece, but I do not want to spend the rest of my life
waiting for fractions of a dollar to clog up my mailbox.
That world orbits the Sun somewhere between Mars and Jupiter.






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Bobstamp

15 Jul 2022
06:47:53pm

I know that I have seen a list showing the number of individual definitive stamps issued by Canada and/or the U.S. I recall that some first-class definitive stamps were issued in astonishing numbers, even more than a billion if I recall correctly. But I can't any such information in my catalogues.

I am particularly interested in knowing how many copies of Canada's 1942 "War Issue" stamps were printed, and/or the number of "Prexie" stamps issued by the U.S. in 1938.

Bob

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joesm

15 Jul 2022
08:33:05pm

re: Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

Holy cow! The Prexies ran into the late 50’s as a series. There were billions of each produced. Maybe hundreds of millions of the high values, but still a lot. Really a well done and popular series. May not be another like it in the world.

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cva59

15 Jul 2022
08:52:51pm

re: Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

The book "The Prexies" by Roland E. Rustad - Published by the Bureau Issues Association, Inc. 1994. Gives the plate impression for each plate number. Plus other interesting facts about each value.

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BrightonPete

Praying for Ukraine
15 Jul 2022
09:37:08pm

re: Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

Not sure of the Prexies, but Canada's Wartime issues are:

249 1¢ green 2,543,000,000
250 2¢ brown 471,000,000
251 3¢ dark carmine 606,000,000
252 3¢ rose violet 2,118,000,000
253 4¢ greenish black 7,900,000
254 4¢ dark carmine 3,149,000,000
255 5¢ deep blue 174,000,000
256 8¢ red brown 22,979,000

257 10¢ Parliament Buildings 156,680,577
258 13¢ Tank 4,000,000
259 14¢ Tank 14,878,673
260 20¢ Corvette 62,208,106
261 50¢ Munitions Factory 16,486,515
262 $1 Destroyer 6,195,600

Coils perf 8:
263 1¢ green 26,000,000
264 2¢ brown 8,465,000
265 3¢ dark carmine 9,975,000
266 3¢ rose violet 45,990,000
267 4¢ dark carmine 47,590,000

Coils perf 9-½
278-281 not reported

A couple in the billions! Nowhere near those numbers these days! All numbers from Unitrade.


Peter

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15 Jul 2022
10:59:52pm

re: Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

BrightonPete said, "Not sure of the Prexies, but Canada's Wartime issues are:…"

Thank you, Peter. I'm curious: Where did you find those numbers? I thought they were in one of my catalogues (Scott, Scott Classic, and Unitrade) but I couldn't find them anywhere.

I needed the numbers for an article that I'm rewriting, titled "What to do when you inherit stamps". I wrote it for the BC Philatelic Society web site because, as contact person, I found that I was constantly responding to emails from people asking what they should do with their inherited collections. Instead of reinventing the wheel with every email, I wrote the article and began sending short emails including links to it. Yesterday, I got a request from Ian Smillie, a past president of the Ottawa Philatelic Society, asking if his society could use it on their web site.

One of the points I want to make in the revised article is that, for good reason, most stamps are worth little commercially because they are so common. I remembered that the 3-cent War Issue was issued in an astonishing number, but I could remember the number. And now I have it.

Bob



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16 Jul 2022
12:08:51am

re: Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

They are listed with each stamp. Perhaps if you have an older catalogue they weren't included. Here is the beginning of the War issue in my 2022 catalogue...

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Peter

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Jansimon

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16 Jul 2022
04:18:34am

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re: Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

I know that Michel also gives information about the number of stamps printed, as do most specialized country catalogues.

As far as the real value of common stamps is concerned: the practice of a minimum value can be very misleading. Although in the introduction it is said that this is only a handling fee if one buys it from a dealer, most people don't read this and think that when they have 100 stamps listed in the catalogue for 25 cents, they have a lot worth $ 25. In the real world $ 1 is more likely...
That's why I like the approach Facit, the Scandinavian catalogue, has of simply putting "M" as a value indication for common stamps, which means their value is minimal.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
25 Jul 2022
03:27:01am

re: Number of Canadian, American stamps printed by issue

" .... think that when they have 100 stamps
listed in the catalogue for 25 cents, they have
a lot worth $ 25. In the real world ...."


Yes, in the real world on this part of planet Earth. I recently saw
an attractive lot at a friendly auction that was described and
scanned with an dream-world catalog 'value' of a bit over $4,000.

The 2,600 stamps were in a large, neat blackpaged stockbook that
would cost well over $100 by itself, new. The first few pages hold
several dozen Ceylon Victorias and Edward VIIs with a real world
value, to me anyway, of about $200. Maybe a shade more.
The balance of the twenty double sided pages are stuffed with
common keyplate issues cataloged and annotated with different perfs
and watermarks, as well as a few listed shade and color varieties.
A flyspecker's dream.
This is an area that has interested me since I visited Columbo
about sixty years ago.
I opened the bidding with a 10 dollar bid and gradually raised it to $120.
HUZZAR !
The well packed and postally stamped parcel arrived a few weeks ago
and appears to be even better than I thought.
I have already had several evening's pleasure just poking around and
I expect more, once the '#@$%&ing' contractor puts the right size tiles
in the planned stamproom and constructs the wall to wall shelves that
were ordered..
I won a similar 'France" album a few months ago and still have work to
do on that album.
The point is the auction's lotter is right if I were to sell 2,000 stamps
at 20 or 30 cents apiece, but I do not want to spend the rest of my life
waiting for fractions of a dollar to clog up my mailbox.
That world orbits the Sun somewhere between Mars and Jupiter.






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