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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Returned Mail

 

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Brechinite

15 Sep 2022
09:09:14am

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Ah well it has finally happened.

You never receive returned mail and you get 2 in the one day from two different countries.

One was returned because of "Failed electronic customs clearance".

The second was returned as "no such number". (They couldn't tell an S from a 5.)




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15 Sep 2022
03:08:50pm

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I have heard of this happening on ebay due to their global shipping, where what ever customs thing they do with something you send through them is incorrect, (just one more reason why I send no parcels international anymore) but never on a first class letter. Do you folks in the UK have to use a customs form on every piece of international mail that you send out? How would they know what was in an ordinary letter unless it is a fat letter due to a packet?

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Brechinite

15 Sep 2022
07:08:14pm

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re: Returned Mail

Greg,

A small ordinary personal letter does not require a Customs Form. However a Large Letter or package with goods has to have a Customs Form complete with a Code Number relating to the goods within.

The one returned to me was from an EU country and they were just being "picky" because we left the EU.

You try to be honest and send any Large Letter with the Customs Form filled in correctly and you get it sent back or stolen. I have sent Large Letters without Customs Forms and they get delivered !

The whole problem is too many complex rules and poorly trained staff who are not allowed to think for themselves or in some cases staff are too lazy and with the intelligence of a rabbit dropping.

Of course another part of the situation are the buyers who want to "make it a more economic purchase" so the package is larger, needs a Customs Form, attracts the thieves but would cringe at you or I asking them to pay for "tracking" because "its not economic to them". Aye its no economic for us when you can only claim back the postage on a "disappeared" packet.

A "little and often" is my mantra. I have never bought more than $15 of stamps at a time off this site for the simple reason that if it "disappears" then it is not a big loss to the seller! Has a package I've bought from this site ever gone missing? No! "A little and often, a little and often!.

Yeah getting a $30 or $50 order is great when you can stop sweating whether it has arrived or not!

I shall now put the soapbox back under the stairs and have a beer or two or three or ten!!!!

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15 Sep 2022
07:20:14pm
re: Returned Mail

I am still getting the BC stamps from my dealer who lives about 2 hours drive away from me. The last one he sent me by regular mail had a stamp with a CV of over $2000 inside. I am very tempted to just drive up and pick up the material - it would be a disaster for both of us if one disappeared in the mail - I wouldn't get the stamp and he would lose the money. I believe he shares the view that adding insurance would be like putting a "steal me" on the envelope. Meanwhile I have had a postal worker at the local post office tell me that they think there a local worker with "sticky fingers". I'll be very glad when I get the last four stamps. But I've been dealing with Steve and his father since about 1972 and have never had an item disappear. I just knocked on a huge junk of wood!!!

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Brechinite

15 Sep 2022
09:09:14am

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Ah well it has finally happened.

You never receive returned mail and you get 2 in the one day from two different countries.

One was returned because of "Failed electronic customs clearance".

The second was returned as "no such number". (They couldn't tell an S from a 5.)




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Soundcrest

15 Sep 2022
03:08:50pm

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re: Returned Mail

I have heard of this happening on ebay due to their global shipping, where what ever customs thing they do with something you send through them is incorrect, (just one more reason why I send no parcels international anymore) but never on a first class letter. Do you folks in the UK have to use a customs form on every piece of international mail that you send out? How would they know what was in an ordinary letter unless it is a fat letter due to a packet?

Greg

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Brechinite

15 Sep 2022
07:08:14pm

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re: Returned Mail

Greg,

A small ordinary personal letter does not require a Customs Form. However a Large Letter or package with goods has to have a Customs Form complete with a Code Number relating to the goods within.

The one returned to me was from an EU country and they were just being "picky" because we left the EU.

You try to be honest and send any Large Letter with the Customs Form filled in correctly and you get it sent back or stolen. I have sent Large Letters without Customs Forms and they get delivered !

The whole problem is too many complex rules and poorly trained staff who are not allowed to think for themselves or in some cases staff are too lazy and with the intelligence of a rabbit dropping.

Of course another part of the situation are the buyers who want to "make it a more economic purchase" so the package is larger, needs a Customs Form, attracts the thieves but would cringe at you or I asking them to pay for "tracking" because "its not economic to them". Aye its no economic for us when you can only claim back the postage on a "disappeared" packet.

A "little and often" is my mantra. I have never bought more than $15 of stamps at a time off this site for the simple reason that if it "disappears" then it is not a big loss to the seller! Has a package I've bought from this site ever gone missing? No! "A little and often, a little and often!.

Yeah getting a $30 or $50 order is great when you can stop sweating whether it has arrived or not!

I shall now put the soapbox back under the stairs and have a beer or two or three or ten!!!!

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"Gonnae no dae that!..........Just gonnae no!"

This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
15 Sep 2022
07:20:14pm

re: Returned Mail

I am still getting the BC stamps from my dealer who lives about 2 hours drive away from me. The last one he sent me by regular mail had a stamp with a CV of over $2000 inside. I am very tempted to just drive up and pick up the material - it would be a disaster for both of us if one disappeared in the mail - I wouldn't get the stamp and he would lose the money. I believe he shares the view that adding insurance would be like putting a "steal me" on the envelope. Meanwhile I have had a postal worker at the local post office tell me that they think there a local worker with "sticky fingers". I'll be very glad when I get the last four stamps. But I've been dealing with Steve and his father since about 1972 and have never had an item disappear. I just knocked on a huge junk of wood!!!

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