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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

 

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27 May 2023
08:53:22am
Picked up this 1901 1907 flag postcard recently. I had never seen this flag before, so it took me a few minutes of Google searching to nail it down.

Initially, I thought it looked like a naval ensign, or possibly a regimental flag, but no.

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Kudos to you if you have identified it already!

It is the flag of Sweden from 1844 to 1905.

However, there is a small error in the design. The horizontal bar in the canton should be yellow, not white (the vertical white bar in the canton is correct).

Next question is, "Why are US and Swedish flags together on a patriotic postcard?"

Did Sweden aid in the Spanish-American War?
Did the card originate in Minnesota with a large Swedish population?

I don't have an answer. Anybody?

Roy


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27 May 2023
09:29:21am
re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

Maybe this quote from Wikipedia has some significance;


"During the period between 1820–1930 approximately 1.3 million Swedes, a third of the country's population, emigrated to North America and most of them to the United States. Like the Irish diaspora it was sparked by poverty in Sweden, which was exacerbated during bad years. Only Britain (especially Ireland) and Norway had a higher emigration rate. Most of the Swedish emigrants settled in the central and Western United States. By 1910, Chicago had a greater population of Swedes than Gothenburg. Minnesota was also a place where many Swedish emigrants settled. The majority of Swedish-Americans fought in the American Civil War on the Union sid"

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27 May 2023
09:35:33am
re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

Also, an interesting article on the above subject here:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_em ...

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27 May 2023
11:14:31am
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What makes you think this is a 1901 post card?

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27 May 2023
11:23:27am
re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

The date appears to be 1907, so The Great White Fleet came to mind. However, the fleet never went close to Sweden.

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27 May 2023
12:16:08pm
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Simple first examination stamp is from 1902!




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27 May 2023
12:27:56pm
re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

"What makes you think this is a 1901 post card?"


"Simple first examination stamp is from 1902!"



Some comments are like being poked by a stick.

Takes all the pleasure out of trying to share and provide content.

Worse than reading the comments on Twitter.

Answer: Posted prior to my morning coffee kicking in.

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27 May 2023
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I just finished my coffee!

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27 May 2023
08:03:21pm
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@ Roy;

I greatly admire your diplomatic responses....can't say I could do the same.

Respect!

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28 May 2023
08:59:42am
re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

Appreciate the very broad history lessen.

Philately often provides so much more than information on stamps, and this is a case in point.

Roy, thanks for starting us off and adding to it.


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29 May 2023
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re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

Union of Norway and Sweden

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27 May 2023
08:53:22am

Picked up this 1901 1907 flag postcard recently. I had never seen this flag before, so it took me a few minutes of Google searching to nail it down.

Initially, I thought it looked like a naval ensign, or possibly a regimental flag, but no.

Image Not Found

Here is the back:

Image Not Found

Kudos to you if you have identified it already!

It is the flag of Sweden from 1844 to 1905.

However, there is a small error in the design. The horizontal bar in the canton should be yellow, not white (the vertical white bar in the canton is correct).

Next question is, "Why are US and Swedish flags together on a patriotic postcard?"

Did Sweden aid in the Spanish-American War?
Did the card originate in Minnesota with a large Swedish population?

I don't have an answer. Anybody?

Roy


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27 May 2023
09:29:21am

re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

Maybe this quote from Wikipedia has some significance;


"During the period between 1820–1930 approximately 1.3 million Swedes, a third of the country's population, emigrated to North America and most of them to the United States. Like the Irish diaspora it was sparked by poverty in Sweden, which was exacerbated during bad years. Only Britain (especially Ireland) and Norway had a higher emigration rate. Most of the Swedish emigrants settled in the central and Western United States. By 1910, Chicago had a greater population of Swedes than Gothenburg. Minnesota was also a place where many Swedish emigrants settled. The majority of Swedish-Americans fought in the American Civil War on the Union sid"

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re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

Also, an interesting article on the above subject here:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_em ...

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27 May 2023
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re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

@roy

What makes you think this is a 1901 post card?

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27 May 2023
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re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

The date appears to be 1907, so The Great White Fleet came to mind. However, the fleet never went close to Sweden.

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27 May 2023
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re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

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Simple first examination stamp is from 1902!




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re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

"What makes you think this is a 1901 post card?"


"Simple first examination stamp is from 1902!"



Some comments are like being poked by a stick.

Takes all the pleasure out of trying to share and provide content.

Worse than reading the comments on Twitter.

Answer: Posted prior to my morning coffee kicking in.

Roy
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1898

27 May 2023
12:35:52pm

re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

@roy

I just finished my coffee!

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27 May 2023
08:03:21pm

re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

@ Roy;

I greatly admire your diplomatic responses....can't say I could do the same.

Respect!

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28 May 2023
08:59:42am

re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

Appreciate the very broad history lessen.

Philately often provides so much more than information on stamps, and this is a case in point.

Roy, thanks for starting us off and adding to it.


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29 May 2023
02:26:11pm

re: A 1907 patriotic flag postcard that made me do some research

Union of Norway and Sweden

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