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It seems that we as stamp collectors/philatelists have lost sight of such terms and the correct meanings. Granted some terms can mean different things given the fact that the hobby we all share is a global one to be sure terms in different countries can mean different things and this fact is especially true for the term I learned today.
Let's not muddy the water with acronyms though they certainly have a place in all languages so we should keep the language universal to stamp collecting/philately which is a global hobby. Now the term I re-learned today is bourse. Let's also remember that like all terms and the meanings behind them if we don't use them on a regular basis we forget the meanings.
Bourse: A meeting of stamp collectors and/or dealers, where stamps and covers are sold or exchanged. A bourse usually has no competitive exhibits of stamps or covers. Almost all public stamp exhibitions include a dealer bourse, though many bourses are held without a corresponding exhibition.
Lets see how long this thread gets.
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How about precancels even tho one might be desribed as Mint, they are considered as used stamps?
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Sure lets use the term. It certainly has a place in philately. Give us a definition and maybe a brief history behind the term and why they were created and move on to a different term everyday. So we don't get stuck on one discussion.
Cmon everyone lets have some participation.
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Great idea, Sarge. Here’s a word: tied.
A stamp is tied to a cover, wrapper, or packaging material when a the ink of the cancellation adheres to both the stamp to both the stamp and the material it’s stuck to, proving that the stamp was used to pay the postage for that particular item. Truth be told, if a sock-on the-nose or bullseye cancellation is placed entirely within the borders of a stamp, it does not prove that the stamp was postally used, but could have been favour-cancelled and never entered the mail stream.
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Tête-bêche (French for "head-to-tail"), pronounced Tet-besh-a, is a joined pair of stamps in which one is upside-down in relation to the other.
Se-tenant, pronounced Say-ten-ant, stamps are two or more stamps with different designs, denominations, or colors, printed together on the same sheet and remaining attached.
And this one? ... Maybe both?
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Sarge Precancelled.
Precancels saves the post office because the stamp is already cancelled (saves money to).
Precancelled stamps were first used in 1847.
Government prepared precancelled were first produced in 1916. Note these were flat pressed printed stamps.
I don't know when rotarty presssed printed were first printed.
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Since we have a few on SOR, their interest deserve a name.
Marcophily: Postmark collecting.
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I try to collect used stamps that aren’t too badly defaced by their cancellations. Ergo, I’m a marcophilatelist!
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Stamp perforations, or 'perfs' as they are called, are the small holes along the edges of a stamp. They can vary in type, size, and arrangement, affecting how stamps are separated and their value to collectors. Henry Archer of Ireland is acknowledged to be the creator of both the idea and the first perforation machines successfully used in 1848.
Perfs are measured by using a perforation gauge. The gauge measures the number of holes within a 2 centimeter width. You just line your stamp up with the gauge until the spaces match.
10 holes in a 2 cm width......11.2 holes in a 2 cm width
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For those who might be interested, we have an extensive illustrated philatelic glossary on the Stamp Smarter Learning Center website. It also includes a link the the USPS Glossary of stamp collecting and philatelic terms.
It can be found here.... https://stampsmarter.org/Learning/Glossa ...
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Does soR have this?
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What exactly are you asking? Please make your posts clear. Perhaps one of the following was what you were asking.
a) Is this information on the StampoRama website? No, it is not. It is proprietary content created for the Stamp Smarter Learning Center website.
b) Can members of StampoRama access the information. Yes, anyone can. We put it there to serve the philatelic community. Just click on the link provided in my original post.
c) Can the information be moved to the StampoRama site. No! It belongs to the Stamp Smarter website.
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Glossary of stamp collecting and philatelic terms
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My word of the day is Fly Specking or as others may know it as Fly Speck Philately. Here is my interpretation of the term/word: It is the search/study of stamps to find the smallest detail/flaws/errors in the printing process to discover consistencies with more than one of the same stamp design that establishes a new variety/catalog listing.
I am a Fly Specker and proud of it.
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Linn's list of terms
https://www.linns.com/news/postal-update ...
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Local Posts would be my word of the day.....interesting backgrounds for some of these posts.....Check out Kaulbach Island and Adoette Local Post
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One topic could be terms that have different interpretations due to catalogs, country, etc,
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E Bars
(Electric Eye Bars) These bars aid the electric eye in the perforating process. EE bars are commonly found in the margins of sheet stamps, but are usually trimmed from coil stamps; the plate block at right has the EE bars in the left margin. The term "EE" refers to the fact that the stamps were perforated using the electric eye method.
I used the Stamp Smarter definition.
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From Scott Cat. Double transfer
The condition of a transfer on a plate that shows evidence of a duplication off all or a portion of the design.
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Cinderella.
Normally associated with a young Scullery maid who goes to the ball and meets a handsome prince, but in this case we are talking about stamps that are NOT for postage........and maybe even a few that are !!
Anyone who has an opinion goes by their own list. As a member of the Cinderella Stamp Club, I go by theirs. If it's not a postage stamp, then it's welcome under the Cinderella umbrella.
Or, if it's not in a regular (simplified) stamp catalogue then it's in (or under !!)
I have a chart but cannot upload it at the moment. If I solve the problem, I will add it here.
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Would love to see the chart too!
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I didn't post an example of the Electric Eye/E Bars so here it is in a plate blocks. 
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They look like you just bought them from the Post Office, very fresh!
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Did you notice that they are in sequential order too.
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As a member of the Christmas Seal and Charity Stamp Society (CS&CSS), i whole heartedly support Michael's definition of Cinderellas, until he gets to things outside the simplified stamp catalogues. That latter would let in revenues, ducks, and much more that is issued by the government or its contracted agents. Many of these latter are required when conducting certain transactions, whereas a Cinderella is typically optional.
Many of our members also belong to affiliated groups, including the Poster Stamp Society.
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Per-fin or Initialed (Perforated) Stamps: Initials of business and firms sometimes are punched over the face of the stamps. This is to avoid theft or assist in tracing the theft of postage stamps by employees. However perforated initials serve another purpose. For instance some countries perforate O.S. on some of their stamps to signify use for official service.
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It would be interesting to see the the translation of the stamp in various languages such as sellos in Spanish.
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Here is an interesting multi-lingual philatelic glossary with terms in English, Italian, French , German, and Spanish.
https://www.vaticanstamps.org/VPS/docs/P ...
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That helps.
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Yes it does thank you for sharing MikeL.
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Today I re-learned a philatelic term and I now feel compelled to start a new thread.
It seems that we as stamp collectors/philatelists have lost sight of such terms and the correct meanings. Granted some terms can mean different things given the fact that the hobby we all share is a global one to be sure terms in different countries can mean different things and this fact is especially true for the term I learned today.
Let's not muddy the water with acronyms though they certainly have a place in all languages so we should keep the language universal to stamp collecting/philately which is a global hobby. Now the term I re-learned today is bourse. Let's also remember that like all terms and the meanings behind them if we don't use them on a regular basis we forget the meanings.
Bourse: A meeting of stamp collectors and/or dealers, where stamps and covers are sold or exchanged. A bourse usually has no competitive exhibits of stamps or covers. Almost all public stamp exhibitions include a dealer bourse, though many bourses are held without a corresponding exhibition.
Lets see how long this thread gets.
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How about precancels even tho one might be desribed as Mint, they are considered as used stamps?
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1899,
Sure lets use the term. It certainly has a place in philately. Give us a definition and maybe a brief history behind the term and why they were created and move on to a different term everyday. So we don't get stuck on one discussion.
Cmon everyone lets have some participation.
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Great idea, Sarge. Here’s a word: tied.
A stamp is tied to a cover, wrapper, or packaging material when a the ink of the cancellation adheres to both the stamp to both the stamp and the material it’s stuck to, proving that the stamp was used to pay the postage for that particular item. Truth be told, if a sock-on the-nose or bullseye cancellation is placed entirely within the borders of a stamp, it does not prove that the stamp was postally used, but could have been favour-cancelled and never entered the mail stream.
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Tête-bêche (French for "head-to-tail"), pronounced Tet-besh-a, is a joined pair of stamps in which one is upside-down in relation to the other.
Se-tenant, pronounced Say-ten-ant, stamps are two or more stamps with different designs, denominations, or colors, printed together on the same sheet and remaining attached.
And this one? ... Maybe both?
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Sarge Precancelled.
Precancels saves the post office because the stamp is already cancelled (saves money to).
Precancelled stamps were first used in 1847.
Government prepared precancelled were first produced in 1916. Note these were flat pressed printed stamps.
I don't know when rotarty presssed printed were first printed.
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Since we have a few on SOR, their interest deserve a name.
Marcophily: Postmark collecting.
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I try to collect used stamps that aren’t too badly defaced by their cancellations. Ergo, I’m a marcophilatelist!
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Stamp perforations, or 'perfs' as they are called, are the small holes along the edges of a stamp. They can vary in type, size, and arrangement, affecting how stamps are separated and their value to collectors. Henry Archer of Ireland is acknowledged to be the creator of both the idea and the first perforation machines successfully used in 1848.
Perfs are measured by using a perforation gauge. The gauge measures the number of holes within a 2 centimeter width. You just line your stamp up with the gauge until the spaces match.
10 holes in a 2 cm width......11.2 holes in a 2 cm width
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For those who might be interested, we have an extensive illustrated philatelic glossary on the Stamp Smarter Learning Center website. It also includes a link the the USPS Glossary of stamp collecting and philatelic terms.
It can be found here.... https://stampsmarter.org/Learning/Glossa ...
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"Does soR have this?"
1899:
What exactly are you asking? Please make your posts clear. Perhaps one of the following was what you were asking.
a) Is this information on the StampoRama website? No, it is not. It is proprietary content created for the Stamp Smarter Learning Center website.
b) Can members of StampoRama access the information. Yes, anyone can. We put it there to serve the philatelic community. Just click on the link provided in my original post.
c) Can the information be moved to the StampoRama site. No! It belongs to the Stamp Smarter website.
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Glossary of stamp collecting and philatelic terms
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My word of the day is Fly Specking or as others may know it as Fly Speck Philately. Here is my interpretation of the term/word: It is the search/study of stamps to find the smallest detail/flaws/errors in the printing process to discover consistencies with more than one of the same stamp design that establishes a new variety/catalog listing.
I am a Fly Specker and proud of it.
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Linn's list of terms
https://www.linns.com/news/postal-update ...
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Local Posts would be my word of the day.....interesting backgrounds for some of these posts.....Check out Kaulbach Island and Adoette Local Post
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Surcharge
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E Bars
(Electric Eye Bars) These bars aid the electric eye in the perforating process. EE bars are commonly found in the margins of sheet stamps, but are usually trimmed from coil stamps; the plate block at right has the EE bars in the left margin. The term "EE" refers to the fact that the stamps were perforated using the electric eye method.
I used the Stamp Smarter definition.
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From Scott Cat. Double transfer
The condition of a transfer on a plate that shows evidence of a duplication off all or a portion of the design.
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Cinderella.
Normally associated with a young Scullery maid who goes to the ball and meets a handsome prince, but in this case we are talking about stamps that are NOT for postage........and maybe even a few that are !!
Anyone who has an opinion goes by their own list. As a member of the Cinderella Stamp Club, I go by theirs. If it's not a postage stamp, then it's welcome under the Cinderella umbrella.
Or, if it's not in a regular (simplified) stamp catalogue then it's in (or under !!)
I have a chart but cannot upload it at the moment. If I solve the problem, I will add it here.
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Would love to see the chart too!
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I didn't post an example of the Electric Eye/E Bars so here it is in a plate blocks.
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They look like you just bought them from the Post Office, very fresh!
Thank you
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Did you notice that they are in sequential order too.
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As a member of the Christmas Seal and Charity Stamp Society (CS&CSS), i whole heartedly support Michael's definition of Cinderellas, until he gets to things outside the simplified stamp catalogues. That latter would let in revenues, ducks, and much more that is issued by the government or its contracted agents. Many of these latter are required when conducting certain transactions, whereas a Cinderella is typically optional.
Many of our members also belong to affiliated groups, including the Poster Stamp Society.
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Per-fin or Initialed (Perforated) Stamps: Initials of business and firms sometimes are punched over the face of the stamps. This is to avoid theft or assist in tracing the theft of postage stamps by employees. However perforated initials serve another purpose. For instance some countries perforate O.S. on some of their stamps to signify use for official service.
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It would be interesting to see the the translation of the stamp in various languages such as sellos in Spanish.
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Here is an interesting multi-lingual philatelic glossary with terms in English, Italian, French , German, and Spanish.
https://www.vaticanstamps.org/VPS/docs/P ...
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That helps.
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Yes it does thank you for sharing MikeL.
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