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26 Sep 2025
06:30:42pm
Want a real SOTN then check this one out. Japanese Scott #497. Looks like a clown.

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26 Sep 2025
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27 Sep 2025
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I'd out that in my state cancel collection!
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29 Sep 2025
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So what is everyone's definition of a SON (or SOTN) cancel ?

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29 Sep 2025
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A stamp where the CANCELLATION is right in the middle of the stamp, not stamp plus piece and not a precancel' in my opinion!

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29 Sep 2025
10:45:20am
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@1899
That is a pre=cancel.not a SON or SOTN

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29 Sep 2025
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My interpretation is a circular cancellation mark on the stamp which clearly shows the time,date and location of its use.

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29 Sep 2025
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STON = any canx entirely on the front of a stamp, could be a precancel, hand scribed canx, CDS etc., and more etc!

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29 Sep 2025
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This has to be the Ultimate SOTN !

Not only did the guy get a blob of black ink right on the nose, but he also got a new hairdo , his head was boxed and he was assigned #27 in the football team ! All in one stroke!

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29 Sep 2025
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I might be wrong, but it appears to me he now has a hat on!

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30 Sep 2025
10:22:42pm
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United States of America, Scott number R163r

SOTN only applies to the rubber stamp "STR. GOLD"

Flat press printed stamp

Str. Gold was built in 1883.

Later sold to the Petaluma & Santa Rosa Railroad Company

Not for sale or trade!

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Str. stands for steamer!

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30 Sep 2025
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01 Oct 2025
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At last...an example of a SON cancellation !!!

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01 Oct 2025
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A SOTN is up to the original poster, there was no instructions, everything I posted I think are real interesting SOTNs!

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01 Oct 2025
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01 Oct 2025
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These SOTN gems turn up in strange places. While sorting through a box of old (1950-1960 era) Swedish used on paper, what should appear but this:

Canada Scott #354 - 10th anniversary of the International Civil Aviation Organization commemorative, with a socked-on-the-nose Railway Post Office cancel for the Montreal and Brockville R. P. O., period dated 23 June 1955. The stamp was issued June 1, 1955.

A question: What does the number 25 above the date signify in the cancellation? I am not an RPO specialist. Is anyone able to offer an explanation?

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02 Oct 2025
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I may have posted this one before. I never get tired of looking at it though.

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02 Oct 2025
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03 Oct 2025
07:20:32am
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Key Characteristics of a SOTN:
Centering:
The postmark is placed squarely on the stamp, as if it were "socked on the nose".
Completeness:
The entire postmark, including the date and location, should be fully readable, though this can be challenging with small stamps or large postmarks.
Neatness:
The centered placement provides a clean and attractive look to the stamp.
Information:
The postmark clearly shows the date, time, and town where the stamp was postmarked.

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03 Oct 2025
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"though this can be challenging with small stamps"



You can say that again, but this is about 98% complete

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03 Oct 2025
11:14:18am
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Antonio,
That Audrey Hepburn stamp is really cool. Look how the cancel appears to go UNDER her chin.

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03 Oct 2025
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Hi Randy,

From my own point of view I wouldn't call those the Key Characteristics but the ideal characteristics.

I can still appreciate a SON cancel even if it isn't quite ideal (and will prefer them over other cancels for stamps in my collection).

USA Scott# 2175

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04 Oct 2025
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04 Oct 2025
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From my Collection: Ceylon, Queen Victoria, 1899 Issue, VFU, 6c. Rose & Black, Strip of Three - Wmk. 2, Sc.134 - SG259 with CDS ""LINDULLA", July 16, 1902. (Now Sri Lanka - Lindula).

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05 Oct 2025
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USA Scott# 2170 - Not a perfect SON but it works for me.

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06 Oct 2025
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USA Scott# 3261

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10 Oct 2025
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11 Oct 2025
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SOTB !!
New category Big Grin

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11 Oct 2025
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Just a question - If the post mark is spread over two stamps is it technically a SOTN?

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11 Oct 2025
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Very nice margins on that Norway #1

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12 Oct 2025
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"Just a question - If the post mark is spread over two stamps is it technically a SOTN?"



I think people are free to collect and enjoy whatever they like. There are bound to be different interests and perspectives.
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12 Oct 2025
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12 Oct 2025
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Harvey...you're a party pooper

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12 Oct 2025
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I would ask that question too! (Seems like a SOTN to me!!)
Here is mine.
This one got revalued.
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13 Oct 2025
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Not all in my definition of SON (or SOTN or SoN) cancels, but having seen some the others' examples in these threads, they will fit nicely won't they Winking



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14 Oct 2025
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Great Britain Scott# 3

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For those with inquiring minds, thanks to a fellow philatelist.
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15 Oct 2025
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NICE!!

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16 Oct 2025
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Great Britain Scott# 134
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16 Oct 2025
11:44:19am
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Is it that the stamp is lacking color, or is it just that opaque? Thinking , also, what a beautiful date! Dec/12, my birthday! Party

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16 Oct 2025
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Hi Rodolfo,

This is an image I made along time ago. At the time I didn't know how to rebalance the colors. The glare coming from the mount the stamp is in doesn't help but I have rebalanced the colors in this new image. The general blurry or bleary state of the cancel suggests this stamp was soaked in hot water which may have reduced the brightness of the color somehwat.

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Lucky you being born on the day of la Guadelupana.

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21 Oct 2025
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Germany Scott# B994

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22 Oct 2025
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"Wrote: smauggie: The glare coming from the mount the stamp is in doesn't help but I have rebalanced the colors in this new image.. .. Lucky you being born on the day of la Guadelupana."




The stamp looks better now. Yes, I was lucky! My mother even wanted to baptize me as Rodolfo Guadalupe, but my father wouldn't let her. I would have liked it!

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23 Oct 2025
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From my collection, Independence Edition 1910, Leona Vicario, with CDS "MEXICO - D. F. " from August 25, 1912 - Used during the Mexican Revolution, still retaining its fresh color!. Scott No. 311

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23 Oct 2025
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Here's my Black-eye Black Jack.

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23 Oct 2025
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This one is wearing a snazzy monocle!
CV: $0.50
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Want a real SOTN then check this one out. Japanese Scott #497. Looks like a clown.

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I'd out that in my state cancel collection!
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29 Sep 2025
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So what is everyone's definition of a SON (or SOTN) cancel ?

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A stamp where the CANCELLATION is right in the middle of the stamp, not stamp plus piece and not a precancel' in my opinion!

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29 Sep 2025
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@1899
That is a pre=cancel.not a SON or SOTN

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29 Sep 2025
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My interpretation is a circular cancellation mark on the stamp which clearly shows the time,date and location of its use.

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STON = any canx entirely on the front of a stamp, could be a precancel, hand scribed canx, CDS etc., and more etc!

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This has to be the Ultimate SOTN !

Not only did the guy get a blob of black ink right on the nose, but he also got a new hairdo , his head was boxed and he was assigned #27 in the football team ! All in one stroke!

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I might be wrong, but it appears to me he now has a hat on!

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30 Sep 2025
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United States of America, Scott number R163r

SOTN only applies to the rubber stamp "STR. GOLD"

Flat press printed stamp

Str. Gold was built in 1883.

Later sold to the Petaluma & Santa Rosa Railroad Company

Not for sale or trade!

Condition: space filler

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Str. stands for steamer!

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30 Sep 2025
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USA Scott# 1918

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01 Oct 2025
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At last...an example of a SON cancellation !!!

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A SOTN is up to the original poster, there was no instructions, everything I posted I think are real interesting SOTNs!

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01 Oct 2025
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These SOTN gems turn up in strange places. While sorting through a box of old (1950-1960 era) Swedish used on paper, what should appear but this:

Canada Scott #354 - 10th anniversary of the International Civil Aviation Organization commemorative, with a socked-on-the-nose Railway Post Office cancel for the Montreal and Brockville R. P. O., period dated 23 June 1955. The stamp was issued June 1, 1955.

A question: What does the number 25 above the date signify in the cancellation? I am not an RPO specialist. Is anyone able to offer an explanation?

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I may have posted this one before. I never get tired of looking at it though.

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02 Oct 2025
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Key Characteristics of a SOTN:
Centering:
The postmark is placed squarely on the stamp, as if it were "socked on the nose".
Completeness:
The entire postmark, including the date and location, should be fully readable, though this can be challenging with small stamps or large postmarks.
Neatness:
The centered placement provides a clean and attractive look to the stamp.
Information:
The postmark clearly shows the date, time, and town where the stamp was postmarked.

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"though this can be challenging with small stamps"



You can say that again, but this is about 98% complete

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Antonio,
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03 Oct 2025
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Hi Randy,

From my own point of view I wouldn't call those the Key Characteristics but the ideal characteristics.

I can still appreciate a SON cancel even if it isn't quite ideal (and will prefer them over other cancels for stamps in my collection).

USA Scott# 2175

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From my Collection: Ceylon, Queen Victoria, 1899 Issue, VFU, 6c. Rose & Black, Strip of Three - Wmk. 2, Sc.134 - SG259 with CDS ""LINDULLA", July 16, 1902. (Now Sri Lanka - Lindula).

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USA Scott# 2170 - Not a perfect SON but it works for me.

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SOTB !!
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Just a question - If the post mark is spread over two stamps is it technically a SOTN?

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"Just a question - If the post mark is spread over two stamps is it technically a SOTN?"



I think people are free to collect and enjoy whatever they like. There are bound to be different interests and perspectives.
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Saxony Scott# 18

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Harvey...you're a party pooper

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I would ask that question too! (Seems like a SOTN to me!!)
Here is mine.
This one got revalued.
7 to 7.5!
-Ari Happy
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13 Oct 2025
05:30:18am

re: SOTN 3 A New Thread

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Not all in my definition of SON (or SOTN or SoN) cancels, but having seen some the others' examples in these threads, they will fit nicely won't they Winking



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14 Oct 2025
11:33:33pm

re: SOTN 3 A New Thread

Great Britain Scott# 3

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For those with inquiring minds, thanks to a fellow philatelist.
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15 Oct 2025
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NICE!!

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16 Oct 2025
11:28:43am

re: SOTN 3 A New Thread

Great Britain Scott# 134
Weymouth cancel 1906

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16 Oct 2025
11:44:19am

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Is it that the stamp is lacking color, or is it just that opaque? Thinking , also, what a beautiful date! Dec/12, my birthday! Party

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16 Oct 2025
12:12:50pm

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Hi Rodolfo,

This is an image I made along time ago. At the time I didn't know how to rebalance the colors. The glare coming from the mount the stamp is in doesn't help but I have rebalanced the colors in this new image. The general blurry or bleary state of the cancel suggests this stamp was soaked in hot water which may have reduced the brightness of the color somehwat.

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Lucky you being born on the day of la Guadelupana.

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21 Oct 2025
10:00:46am

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Germany Scott# B994

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22 Oct 2025
10:54:19pm

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"Wrote: smauggie: The glare coming from the mount the stamp is in doesn't help but I have rebalanced the colors in this new image.. .. Lucky you being born on the day of la Guadelupana."




The stamp looks better now. Yes, I was lucky! My mother even wanted to baptize me as Rodolfo Guadalupe, but my father wouldn't let her. I would have liked it!

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23 Oct 2025
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From my collection, Independence Edition 1910, Leona Vicario, with CDS "MEXICO - D. F. " from August 25, 1912 - Used during the Mexican Revolution, still retaining its fresh color!. Scott No. 311

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23 Oct 2025
01:03:33pm

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Here's my Black-eye Black Jack.

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This one is wearing a snazzy monocle!
CV: $0.50
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