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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

 

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16 Mar 2013
09:34:02pm

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just curious, if a catalog is in a foreign language and has ads, does that still disqualify it from being media mail?

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17 Mar 2013
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re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

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17 Mar 2013
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thanks. figured as much. the turkeys.

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18 Mar 2013
11:50:14am
re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

For future reference, the below content standards for media mail are taken from the USPS Domestic Mail Manual:

"4.0 Content Standards for Media Mail

4.1 Qualified Items

Only these items may be mailed at the Media Mail prices:

a. Books, including books issued to supplement other books, of at least eight printed pages, consisting wholly of reading matter or scholarly bibliography, or reading matter with incidental blank spaces for notations and containing no advertising matter other than incidental announcements of books. Advertising includes paid advertising and the publishers' own advertising in display, classified, or editorial style.

b. 16-millimeter or narrower width films, which must be positive prints in final form for viewing, and catalogs of such films of 24 pages or more (at least 22 of which are printed). Films and film catalogs sent to or from commercial theaters do not qualify for the Media Mail price.

c. Printed music, whether in bound or sheet form.

d. Printed objective test materials and their accessories used by or on behalf of educational institutions to test ability, aptitude, achievement, interests, and other mental and personal qualities with or without answers, test scores, or identifying information recorded thereon in writing or by mark.

e. Sound recordings, including incidental announcements of recordings and guides or scripts prepared solely for use with such recordings. Video recordings and player piano rolls are classified as sound recordings.

f. Playscripts and manuscripts for books, periodicals, and music.

g. Printed educational reference charts designed to instruct or train individuals for improving or developing their capabilities. Each chart must be a single printed sheet of information designed for educational reference. The information on the chart, which may be printed on one or both sides of the sheet, must be conveyed primarily by graphs, diagrams, tables, or other nonnarrative matter. An educational reference chart is normally but not necessarily devoted to one subject. A chart on which the information is conveyed primarily by textual matter in a narrative form does not qualify as a printed educational reference chart for mailing at the Media Mail prices even if it includes graphs, diagrams, or tables. Examples of qualifying charts include maps produced primarily for educational reference, tables of mathematical or scientific equations, noun declensions or verb conjugations used in the study of languages, periodic table of elements, botanical or zoological tables, and other tables used in the study of science.

h. Loose-leaf pages and their binders consisting of medical information for distribution to doctors, hospitals, medical schools, and medical students.

i. Computer-readable media containing prerecorded information and guides or scripts prepared solely for use with such media.

4.2 Enclosures in Books Mailed as Media Mail

Enclosures in books mailed at Media Mail prices are subject to these additional standards:

a. Either one envelope or one addressed postcard may be bound into the pages of a book. If also serving as an order form, the envelope or card may be in addition to the order form permitted by 4.2b.

b. One order form may be bound into the pages of a book. If also serving as an envelope or postcard, the order form may be in addition to the envelope or card permitted by 4.2a.

c. Announcements of books may appear as book pages. These announcements must be incidental and exclusively devoted to books, without extraneous advertising of book-related or other materials or services. Announcements may describe the conditions of ordering books and may contain ordering instructions for use with a separate order form. Up to three of these announcements may contain as part of their format a single order form, which may be a postcard. The order forms permitted with these announcements are in addition to order forms that may be enclosed under 4.2a. or 4.2b."

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18 Mar 2013
12:35:57pm
re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

So....

Pursuant to paragraph 4.1(i), if said catalog is in a PDF file format on a diskette or a thumb drive, it then becomes computer readable media containing pre-recorded information, and could therefore be posted as Media Mail?


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18 Mar 2013
01:59:14pm

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re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

i'd bet that 4.1a trumps 4.1i in the sense that advertising is still excluded. The intent is to preclude advertising from using this discounted rate. Remember, advertisers have other avenues, such as Standard B, presort, and even Standard A, all of which have higher requirements the sender must follow. Media mail is intended as non-business option.

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18 Mar 2013
04:09:57pm
re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

Yeah....

I guess mailing a computer disk via Media Mail would be stupid. The minimum rate for Media Mail is $2.53. I can send a computer disk via First Class for $1.06.



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18 Mar 2013
04:16:20pm
re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

I'll bet Netflix does not pay $1.06 per disc they ship and return, without stiffeners added, I might add.

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michael78651

18 Mar 2013
04:41:25pm
re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

Terry makes a good point that many people don't realize. If it weighs less than 13 ounces, there's a good chance that first class will be cheaper.

Netflix ships via pre-sorted first-class. That rate would be 36 cents for up to 3 ounces. However, I'll bet that Netflix has a special contract with USPS and pays much less than that due to their volume.

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19 Mar 2013
01:28:13am
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I wish you guys where in charge of the USPS.

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02 May 2013
04:36:09pm
re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

"However, I'll bet that Netflix has a special contract with USPS and pays much less than that due to their volume."



They must have a special handling/shipping arrangement too. I could put a movie return in the mail on Monday and have my next selection in my mailbox on Wednesday.

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02 May 2013
07:58:24pm
re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

Many mass mailers use presort service companies so they can enjoy a discount from the USPS. One I am familiar with is Mail Innovations but there are many others.

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02 May 2013
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re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

Ted, there is a special arrangement between netflix and PO, but I don't know much about it. my small PO has a bin just for netflix returns.

Michael, discount mailers are one way to get the best USPS rates; one uses them because they do the work and they already have the permits

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16 Mar 2013
09:34:02pm

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just curious, if a catalog is in a foreign language and has ads, does that still disqualify it from being media mail?

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17 Mar 2013
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re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

yes

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17 Mar 2013
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thanks. figured as much. the turkeys.

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18 Mar 2013
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re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

For future reference, the below content standards for media mail are taken from the USPS Domestic Mail Manual:

"4.0 Content Standards for Media Mail

4.1 Qualified Items

Only these items may be mailed at the Media Mail prices:

a. Books, including books issued to supplement other books, of at least eight printed pages, consisting wholly of reading matter or scholarly bibliography, or reading matter with incidental blank spaces for notations and containing no advertising matter other than incidental announcements of books. Advertising includes paid advertising and the publishers' own advertising in display, classified, or editorial style.

b. 16-millimeter or narrower width films, which must be positive prints in final form for viewing, and catalogs of such films of 24 pages or more (at least 22 of which are printed). Films and film catalogs sent to or from commercial theaters do not qualify for the Media Mail price.

c. Printed music, whether in bound or sheet form.

d. Printed objective test materials and their accessories used by or on behalf of educational institutions to test ability, aptitude, achievement, interests, and other mental and personal qualities with or without answers, test scores, or identifying information recorded thereon in writing or by mark.

e. Sound recordings, including incidental announcements of recordings and guides or scripts prepared solely for use with such recordings. Video recordings and player piano rolls are classified as sound recordings.

f. Playscripts and manuscripts for books, periodicals, and music.

g. Printed educational reference charts designed to instruct or train individuals for improving or developing their capabilities. Each chart must be a single printed sheet of information designed for educational reference. The information on the chart, which may be printed on one or both sides of the sheet, must be conveyed primarily by graphs, diagrams, tables, or other nonnarrative matter. An educational reference chart is normally but not necessarily devoted to one subject. A chart on which the information is conveyed primarily by textual matter in a narrative form does not qualify as a printed educational reference chart for mailing at the Media Mail prices even if it includes graphs, diagrams, or tables. Examples of qualifying charts include maps produced primarily for educational reference, tables of mathematical or scientific equations, noun declensions or verb conjugations used in the study of languages, periodic table of elements, botanical or zoological tables, and other tables used in the study of science.

h. Loose-leaf pages and their binders consisting of medical information for distribution to doctors, hospitals, medical schools, and medical students.

i. Computer-readable media containing prerecorded information and guides or scripts prepared solely for use with such media.

4.2 Enclosures in Books Mailed as Media Mail

Enclosures in books mailed at Media Mail prices are subject to these additional standards:

a. Either one envelope or one addressed postcard may be bound into the pages of a book. If also serving as an order form, the envelope or card may be in addition to the order form permitted by 4.2b.

b. One order form may be bound into the pages of a book. If also serving as an envelope or postcard, the order form may be in addition to the envelope or card permitted by 4.2a.

c. Announcements of books may appear as book pages. These announcements must be incidental and exclusively devoted to books, without extraneous advertising of book-related or other materials or services. Announcements may describe the conditions of ordering books and may contain ordering instructions for use with a separate order form. Up to three of these announcements may contain as part of their format a single order form, which may be a postcard. The order forms permitted with these announcements are in addition to order forms that may be enclosed under 4.2a. or 4.2b."

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Terry

18 Mar 2013
12:35:57pm

re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

So....

Pursuant to paragraph 4.1(i), if said catalog is in a PDF file format on a diskette or a thumb drive, it then becomes computer readable media containing pre-recorded information, and could therefore be posted as Media Mail?


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18 Mar 2013
01:59:14pm

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re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

i'd bet that 4.1a trumps 4.1i in the sense that advertising is still excluded. The intent is to preclude advertising from using this discounted rate. Remember, advertisers have other avenues, such as Standard B, presort, and even Standard A, all of which have higher requirements the sender must follow. Media mail is intended as non-business option.

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18 Mar 2013
04:09:57pm

re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

Yeah....

I guess mailing a computer disk via Media Mail would be stupid. The minimum rate for Media Mail is $2.53. I can send a computer disk via First Class for $1.06.



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18 Mar 2013
04:16:20pm

re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

I'll bet Netflix does not pay $1.06 per disc they ship and return, without stiffeners added, I might add.

Mike

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18 Mar 2013
04:41:25pm

re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

Terry makes a good point that many people don't realize. If it weighs less than 13 ounces, there's a good chance that first class will be cheaper.

Netflix ships via pre-sorted first-class. That rate would be 36 cents for up to 3 ounces. However, I'll bet that Netflix has a special contract with USPS and pays much less than that due to their volume.

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19 Mar 2013
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I wish you guys where in charge of the USPS.

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02 May 2013
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re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

"However, I'll bet that Netflix has a special contract with USPS and pays much less than that due to their volume."



They must have a special handling/shipping arrangement too. I could put a movie return in the mail on Monday and have my next selection in my mailbox on Wednesday.

Tedski
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02 May 2013
07:58:24pm

re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

Many mass mailers use presort service companies so they can enjoy a discount from the USPS. One I am familiar with is Mail Innovations but there are many others.

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re: Foreign catalog with ads qualify for Media mail rate?

Ted, there is a special arrangement between netflix and PO, but I don't know much about it. my small PO has a bin just for netflix returns.

Michael, discount mailers are one way to get the best USPS rates; one uses them because they do the work and they already have the permits

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