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Ted - I have been accumulating Pre-cancels for some time, but have not done any organizing of them. There is a Pre-Cancel Society that issues catalogs. I purchased a couple of their offering a couple years ago, but decided it was more than I wanted to get into at the time and just kept stuffing them into envelopes as I found them. They are still there waiting for me to do something with them. Maybe some day I will get the bug.
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Oh yes. List all the precancels you want. The ones that have been listed here in the past seem to have sold so there must be more than just myself collecting them. Sally
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Ted:
I collect precancels of Texas and NY State. Let me know if you list any.
David
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While I hate to pay a lot for pre=cancels I find them fascinating, especially those of the lesser populous states of the mid/far west. Also ones from Hawaii and occasionally from the Trust Territories are up but often they can get pricy when two bullheaded bidders spot them. Don't ask me how I know that.
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I collect only NY state, so perhaps DavidG and I will get locked into a bidding war that will see your prices rocket through the stratosphere.
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Right now I'm collecting precancels on Scott 300, you guessed it, my 1902 Ben Franklin issue. The tough part is collecting them on cover.
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I came across a bunch of New York pre-cancels on the Prexies so I decided to pursue that collection. After finding a couple more examples I gave up as it really didn't excite me.
Then I decided to do a collection of Prexie FDCs: Again - I have lost interest. Am I hopeless or what?!
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" Am I hopeless or what?!"
So, you finally joined the rest of us, right?
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No, I don't think you're hopeless! I think you're fairly typical. If I am an example, that is. I have collected, and given up, on:
• Sweden, Norway, and Denmark new issues, and I sold all of the old ones!).
• U.S. after 1947 except for the occasional modern issue that relates to the First or Second World Wars, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, or astronomy.
• Canadian Admirals — I almost went blind trying to determine colour and paper varieties, not to mention flyspecks.
• Canada — exceptions (same as above for U.S.) What turned me off was attempting, for the last time, to "fill" a proprietary album. The last page I considered filling, then rejecting: those red Canadian postage dues. Ugly damn things (IMHO)!
• Eire — When I found out that I was spending more on Lighthouse album supplements than the stamps would be worth in a kazillion years, I gave up and sold my collection. I regret that — the older stamps I had, mint and nicely cancelled used — were wonderful.
These days I concentrate on astronomy stamps (only ones that I like), and just about any covers or stamps related to the Vietnam War, the Battle of the Atlantic, RAF/RCAF Bomber Command, the Battle of Stalingrad, the occupation of the Channel Islands, military medicine in the 19th and 20th centuries, three aviation disasters in 1954, and a KLM crash in Syria in 1934. I also have smaller collections about the Philippine War, chickens, Charles Lindbergh and the Spirit of St. Louis.
I have known collectors who exclusively focussed on one narrow collecting area, and they were mostly bored because they had virtually everything they needed/wanted, and couldn't imagine collecting anything else. I'm just the opposite — at the last stamp show I attended, I spent $85 on items for at least four different collections. If I had stayed longer, I might have discovered yet another collecting area.
Bob
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Bob,
Of course he's hopeless. All collectors are hopeless. That's what makes us typical!
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if Michael is right, then, yes, hopeless, however, I share Bob's trajectory, without the glamorous arc.
I started FDCs as a kid; gave them away, but wish I hadn't, as they contained all the love notes I wrote, but never sent, to all my little boy crushes.
piked up worldwide, and aimless accumulated for years, until I went to Prague, which began a collection that is nearly complete for a non-specialist and only about a million dollars shy for a real Czech specialist. I still have it, with immense duplication and missing only a few pieces up to the split with Slovakia
added a Hungarian collection because the grandparents came from Transylvania. Still have it, but it's dormant as, well, the Count at high noon.
US PNCs.... a serious collection, abandoned as PNs became intentionally meaningless. Sold most of it.
US PBs.... just cuz..... haven't added to it in years; essentially abandoned
US, Germany, still intact and growing
US covers.... specializing in rates, auxilliary markings, and tied seals... my philatelic joy
so, the huge bulk of what I accumulated is just so much flotsam waiting for me to wade through it and find ways to make it someone else's temporary treasure.
David
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Happy to hear that I am not hopeless.
My collections are numerous, aside from the pre-cancels that I did not pursue, so I am not bored with any of it.
I have stopped collecting all of Canada as of 2011 and now only keep up with the postal cards and items that I like. Therefore I just spent $55.00 on this year's photography issues. Do Canadians really need all of those stamps?
I also only collect US stamps that I like - stopped that collection in the 1980s.
2 countries that I am trying to collect completely are FSA and St. Pierre & Miquelon and I am now at a standstill because all I need are the high cost items.
And I do have a complete collection of Rio Muni, including some covers.
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"I have known collectors who exclusively focused on one narrow collecting area, and they were mostly bored because they had virtually everything they needed/wanted, and couldn't imagine collecting anything else. I'm just the opposite �"
I collect one stamp... I'll bet folks are tired of hearing that from me! But I always find new and interesting things. For Scott 300 and 314 I've got just about everything including a bunch of the booklet panes, every possible multiple of each, and all the cataloged and some uncatalogued private perforations. So now I'm focused on finding interesting usage on cover and postcard. For instance, I've collected nearly every known cancellation type, all of the slogan and expo cancels and recently I finished my collection of US territories of this era. That includes four states (OK-1907, NM-1912, AZ-1912 and Alaska and Hawaii) There are two varieties for OK, regular OK and Indian Territory. I recently added Puerto Rico. I'm pursuing US Virgin Islands right now, covers are from 1903-1909, to have my Franklin on them.
I constantly browse eBay for postal markings I don't have like "Mail Delayed - Train Late" and cancels on Christmas, New Years eve and day. I still need the 1908 and 1909 covers using Christmas seals. I see them, but some sellers think they're gold, and on most of what I see, the seal isn't tied to the cancel, so it could've been added to the cover yesterday. So I wait for the right covers at the right price. The thrill is in the hunt.
And every time I think I've seen it all, I find something I've never seen before!
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I started as a US collector and my father gave me his World collection in two Harris albums when I was about 12. I thought it was a kind gesture. Now I realize he was just a coward! I never updated it or added to it, and finally sold it about 15 years ago after decades of dormancy. That's the only stamp collection I ever sold, and I never worked on it.
My US collection took a break during High School and College (and beyond), but I finally started working with it again in the late 80's. I had an old baseball card collection with some choice rookie cards that I sold to get a jump start on reigniting my US stamp collection. I mostly just picked up new issues and annual sets. I finally got serious about 10 years ago and settled on an abbreviated but reasonably comprehensive strategy for my US collection. I am now only missing one definitive, one Newspaper stamp, and two Official stamps. I have also gotten just about everything I want for my Beyond BOB collection of various Cinderellas, Revenues, covers, etc. that started as an album of a few oddities and has grown to SIX albums!
I took a break from stamp collecting about 5 years ago (although I kept up with new issues) to focus on my US coin collection. I had a better starting point with my coin collection than my stamp collection, and my collecting interests are rather narrow, so 18 months ago I finally got down to ONE missing coin: 1909 S VDB Lincoln cent.
My focus shifted back to stamps when I learned of the Smithsonian "A stamp for Every Country" album that can be downloaded for free. That is one of my current obsessions. I asked about a similar concept with coins on a coin forum and they said, "Oh, you're talking about OFEC - One from Every Country." So I dove into that and have been doing the stamp and coin collections together since there is a lot of overlap in learning world geography.
I stopped collecting almost all modern US effective 12-31-14, so I decided to start a topical collection. That has been a new and interesting challenge.
At least once a week I grab an album (coin or stamp) off the shelf and look through EVERY page. If there is a Commemorative that I don't remember the purpose of, I take the time to read what it commemorates. Right now I have 20 coin albums and 26 stamps albums. If I every get tired of looking through the albums, I suppose it's time to sell them.
Happy hunting everyone!
Lars
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When I said,
"I have known collectors who exclusively focused on one narrow collecting area…."
I was thinking especially of one collector, who actually quit our club, at least in part, because there was never anything to buy in our auctions, according to him. He collected mint Canada, had a virtually complete collection — the definition of "complete" is highly subjective! — and apparently could not conceive of any other collecting area or goal. Unlike BenFranklin1902, I am not aware that he collected any varieties.
Bob
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Anyone here on Stamporama collect US precancels?
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Ted - I have been accumulating Pre-cancels for some time, but have not done any organizing of them. There is a Pre-Cancel Society that issues catalogs. I purchased a couple of their offering a couple years ago, but decided it was more than I wanted to get into at the time and just kept stuffing them into envelopes as I found them. They are still there waiting for me to do something with them. Maybe some day I will get the bug.
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Oh yes. List all the precancels you want. The ones that have been listed here in the past seem to have sold so there must be more than just myself collecting them. Sally
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Ted:
I collect precancels of Texas and NY State. Let me know if you list any.
David
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While I hate to pay a lot for pre=cancels I find them fascinating, especially those of the lesser populous states of the mid/far west. Also ones from Hawaii and occasionally from the Trust Territories are up but often they can get pricy when two bullheaded bidders spot them. Don't ask me how I know that.
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I collect only NY state, so perhaps DavidG and I will get locked into a bidding war that will see your prices rocket through the stratosphere.
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Right now I'm collecting precancels on Scott 300, you guessed it, my 1902 Ben Franklin issue. The tough part is collecting them on cover.
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I came across a bunch of New York pre-cancels on the Prexies so I decided to pursue that collection. After finding a couple more examples I gave up as it really didn't excite me.
Then I decided to do a collection of Prexie FDCs: Again - I have lost interest. Am I hopeless or what?!
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" Am I hopeless or what?!"
So, you finally joined the rest of us, right?
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No, I don't think you're hopeless! I think you're fairly typical. If I am an example, that is. I have collected, and given up, on:
• Sweden, Norway, and Denmark new issues, and I sold all of the old ones!).
• U.S. after 1947 except for the occasional modern issue that relates to the First or Second World Wars, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, or astronomy.
• Canadian Admirals — I almost went blind trying to determine colour and paper varieties, not to mention flyspecks.
• Canada — exceptions (same as above for U.S.) What turned me off was attempting, for the last time, to "fill" a proprietary album. The last page I considered filling, then rejecting: those red Canadian postage dues. Ugly damn things (IMHO)!
• Eire — When I found out that I was spending more on Lighthouse album supplements than the stamps would be worth in a kazillion years, I gave up and sold my collection. I regret that — the older stamps I had, mint and nicely cancelled used — were wonderful.
These days I concentrate on astronomy stamps (only ones that I like), and just about any covers or stamps related to the Vietnam War, the Battle of the Atlantic, RAF/RCAF Bomber Command, the Battle of Stalingrad, the occupation of the Channel Islands, military medicine in the 19th and 20th centuries, three aviation disasters in 1954, and a KLM crash in Syria in 1934. I also have smaller collections about the Philippine War, chickens, Charles Lindbergh and the Spirit of St. Louis.
I have known collectors who exclusively focussed on one narrow collecting area, and they were mostly bored because they had virtually everything they needed/wanted, and couldn't imagine collecting anything else. I'm just the opposite — at the last stamp show I attended, I spent $85 on items for at least four different collections. If I had stayed longer, I might have discovered yet another collecting area.
Bob
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Bob,
Of course he's hopeless. All collectors are hopeless. That's what makes us typical!
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if Michael is right, then, yes, hopeless, however, I share Bob's trajectory, without the glamorous arc.
I started FDCs as a kid; gave them away, but wish I hadn't, as they contained all the love notes I wrote, but never sent, to all my little boy crushes.
piked up worldwide, and aimless accumulated for years, until I went to Prague, which began a collection that is nearly complete for a non-specialist and only about a million dollars shy for a real Czech specialist. I still have it, with immense duplication and missing only a few pieces up to the split with Slovakia
added a Hungarian collection because the grandparents came from Transylvania. Still have it, but it's dormant as, well, the Count at high noon.
US PNCs.... a serious collection, abandoned as PNs became intentionally meaningless. Sold most of it.
US PBs.... just cuz..... haven't added to it in years; essentially abandoned
US, Germany, still intact and growing
US covers.... specializing in rates, auxilliary markings, and tied seals... my philatelic joy
so, the huge bulk of what I accumulated is just so much flotsam waiting for me to wade through it and find ways to make it someone else's temporary treasure.
David
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Happy to hear that I am not hopeless.
My collections are numerous, aside from the pre-cancels that I did not pursue, so I am not bored with any of it.
I have stopped collecting all of Canada as of 2011 and now only keep up with the postal cards and items that I like. Therefore I just spent $55.00 on this year's photography issues. Do Canadians really need all of those stamps?
I also only collect US stamps that I like - stopped that collection in the 1980s.
2 countries that I am trying to collect completely are FSA and St. Pierre & Miquelon and I am now at a standstill because all I need are the high cost items.
And I do have a complete collection of Rio Muni, including some covers.
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"I have known collectors who exclusively focused on one narrow collecting area, and they were mostly bored because they had virtually everything they needed/wanted, and couldn't imagine collecting anything else. I'm just the opposite �"
I collect one stamp... I'll bet folks are tired of hearing that from me! But I always find new and interesting things. For Scott 300 and 314 I've got just about everything including a bunch of the booklet panes, every possible multiple of each, and all the cataloged and some uncatalogued private perforations. So now I'm focused on finding interesting usage on cover and postcard. For instance, I've collected nearly every known cancellation type, all of the slogan and expo cancels and recently I finished my collection of US territories of this era. That includes four states (OK-1907, NM-1912, AZ-1912 and Alaska and Hawaii) There are two varieties for OK, regular OK and Indian Territory. I recently added Puerto Rico. I'm pursuing US Virgin Islands right now, covers are from 1903-1909, to have my Franklin on them.
I constantly browse eBay for postal markings I don't have like "Mail Delayed - Train Late" and cancels on Christmas, New Years eve and day. I still need the 1908 and 1909 covers using Christmas seals. I see them, but some sellers think they're gold, and on most of what I see, the seal isn't tied to the cancel, so it could've been added to the cover yesterday. So I wait for the right covers at the right price. The thrill is in the hunt.
And every time I think I've seen it all, I find something I've never seen before!
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I started as a US collector and my father gave me his World collection in two Harris albums when I was about 12. I thought it was a kind gesture. Now I realize he was just a coward! I never updated it or added to it, and finally sold it about 15 years ago after decades of dormancy. That's the only stamp collection I ever sold, and I never worked on it.
My US collection took a break during High School and College (and beyond), but I finally started working with it again in the late 80's. I had an old baseball card collection with some choice rookie cards that I sold to get a jump start on reigniting my US stamp collection. I mostly just picked up new issues and annual sets. I finally got serious about 10 years ago and settled on an abbreviated but reasonably comprehensive strategy for my US collection. I am now only missing one definitive, one Newspaper stamp, and two Official stamps. I have also gotten just about everything I want for my Beyond BOB collection of various Cinderellas, Revenues, covers, etc. that started as an album of a few oddities and has grown to SIX albums!
I took a break from stamp collecting about 5 years ago (although I kept up with new issues) to focus on my US coin collection. I had a better starting point with my coin collection than my stamp collection, and my collecting interests are rather narrow, so 18 months ago I finally got down to ONE missing coin: 1909 S VDB Lincoln cent.
My focus shifted back to stamps when I learned of the Smithsonian "A stamp for Every Country" album that can be downloaded for free. That is one of my current obsessions. I asked about a similar concept with coins on a coin forum and they said, "Oh, you're talking about OFEC - One from Every Country." So I dove into that and have been doing the stamp and coin collections together since there is a lot of overlap in learning world geography.
I stopped collecting almost all modern US effective 12-31-14, so I decided to start a topical collection. That has been a new and interesting challenge.
At least once a week I grab an album (coin or stamp) off the shelf and look through EVERY page. If there is a Commemorative that I don't remember the purpose of, I take the time to read what it commemorates. Right now I have 20 coin albums and 26 stamps albums. If I every get tired of looking through the albums, I suppose it's time to sell them.
Happy hunting everyone!
Lars
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When I said,
"I have known collectors who exclusively focused on one narrow collecting area…."
I was thinking especially of one collector, who actually quit our club, at least in part, because there was never anything to buy in our auctions, according to him. He collected mint Canada, had a virtually complete collection — the definition of "complete" is highly subjective! — and apparently could not conceive of any other collecting area or goal. Unlike BenFranklin1902, I am not aware that he collected any varieties.
Bob
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