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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

 

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khj
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02 Apr 2014
07:23:33pm
The official announcement from BS:

"This is why we believe the time is right to consolidate our online presence into a single entity - the Stanley Gibbons Marketplace. Within the next few months, when it’s ready, we will be basing our new version of our marketplace directly on our primary domain name..."



I have deliberately left out the domain name.

As suspected when SG first bought BS, so it should come as no surprise.

I only wish they had not removed all the old forum posts before I had an opportunity to download some posts. But that's water under the bridge...
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michael78651

02 Apr 2014
10:09:00pm
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

I haven't even been on that site for a long time now. My son told me that his BS account was suspended. He only buys and sells there, and has nothing to do with the forums. He never asked for his account to be closed.

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02 Apr 2014
10:28:40pm
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Well this only confirms what I posted there a couple of months ago then was immediately suspended. Laughing In a way it has been a good thing no more BS bs.

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khj
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02 Apr 2014
11:36:28pm
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Wow, some of you have been bad boys -- getting suspended. I crossed the bridge before they could do that. Big Grin It's amazing after all these years, I haven't gotten suspended or expelled, yet!

Well, that closes a long chapter with bittersweet memories. Fortunately, some of the best parts of that chapter make a subsequent reappearance in the following chapter. Thanks all!

Let's not forgot oneeaglelover, dianealthea, stampsz, jtbt1092... up there in the big stamp vault in the sky.

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michael78651

03 Apr 2014
05:55:46am
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Fondly remember them all.

Whatever happened to olderthandirt?

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cocollectibles

03 Apr 2014
07:18:11am
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Kim, yes, they will be remembered fondly. And Ross, you are vindicated! I read your posts and they did not warrant such action IMHO. That was the proverbial straw that led me to quit the site.

The newsletter announcement noted that the "old" bidStart site will be gone in favor of the new SG site. I wonder how they will make me pay my outstanding balance of 56c, which represented my fees for the last month I was there (December)? The chapter is closed.

Peter

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michael78651

03 Apr 2014
08:48:46am
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

I owe them 38 cents from October. They aren't looking to collect it. If they ever get that desperate and they need it, I'll send them 50 cents along with a big kiss-off.

I quit there too because of how they treated Ross. Not being on BS anymore gives me more time to spend on porn sites I mean Stamporama!! I hope no one saw that. Whew

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03 Apr 2014
09:49:17am
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

I was never a member of BS, but reading all the comments over the past year has given me an insight into how an organization can alienate and mistreat the persons it purportedly serves. I am often chastised for being overly attentive to rule enforcement and for my authoritarian attitude when, in fact, I am just trying to make the Stamporama experience as transparent as possible, so a BS incident will never happen here. Additionally, the VC would never tolerate the type of mean spirited, brazen and disrespectful attitude exhibited by the BS admins and mods.

This is a great club, and I appreciate SOR all the more when I read such comments.

Bobby

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Martyn

03 Apr 2014
10:14:10am
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

I never used the BS forum, but used to buy and sell on BS, I gave up about 5-6 months or so ago when they started making it that the lost cost stamps cost too much to sell. I just got an email saying my bill stands at $4.55 and as such was under the $5 minimum so not yet due. As I have no intention of ever going back there I don't see this ever getting paid unless they lower their minimum payment

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03 Apr 2014
10:18:44am
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

I just realized that I will probably lose all my purchasing information. While they might transfer account/feedback information, I doubt they will transfer old listings. That was one of the many nice things about BS until they decided to purge the membership. I guess I'd better find the time this week to download it all. Long list of penny auctions...

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03 Apr 2014
10:41:55am
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

When The BS management terminated my membership I had an account balance of $0.91. I wanted to pay my balance off and be done with them. They said dont worry about its only $0.91. After several back and forth e-mails I demanded they take payment as I wanted absolutely nothing out there to discredit me. 2 weeks later I got an invoice via Paypal and paid my balance off. Done with them for good.
With SG at the helm now and with them having a horrid 1st quarter in sales and a 7% drop in stock value with the announcement of the up coming SG Collectibles Market Place website, I dont see them passing up on any amount of owed monies.

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03 Apr 2014
11:16:41am
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Well, BD's suspension got me all curious (and riled up again). So I went back to see what happened. Of course, all the juicy stuff got removed, and replaced with a blanket accusation by BS management. It sounds like what they did was simply cut and paste BD's deleted post and put it into this month's newsletter. They aren't happy because BD let the cat out of the bag too early. Again, something most of us long suspected when SG bought BS and a lot of major changes were made without the "forum testing/comments" of previous years.

We can pretty much figure out who comprised the so-called "test group" that BS administration relied upon rather than the SW Forum.

That will be my last visit back to the BS Forum, or soon to be SG spin forum.

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03 Apr 2014
12:35:23pm
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Kim,
It was public knowledge posted on the SG Investment Groups "Press Release" link. At least the door didnt hit me I was on my way out. I just didnt like the deception, lack of communication and the treatment that many founding members received from staff when things got rough.
It was best put by Cheap Trick:
Bye-bye, so long, farewell
Bye-bye, so long, sayonara
Bye-bye, au revoir, auf wiedersehen
Bye-bye, so long, farewell
Bye-bye, so long, suicide
Bye-bye, so long, hari kari, kamikaze

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cocollectibles

03 Apr 2014
12:56:08pm
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

The lyrics of the Academy Award winning song "Let it Go" from "Frozen" captures my sentiment with respect to that site:

"Let it go, let it go
Can’t hold it back anymore
Let it go, let it go
Turn away and slam the door

I don’t care
What they’re going to say
Let the storm rage on,
The cold never bothered me anyway"



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03 Apr 2014
01:40:01pm
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Shocking, but my few stamp purchases on BidStart
were experiences of exquisite joy. Why?

The BidStart sellers were all members of Stamporama!

John Derry

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rwillis29
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03 Apr 2014
02:36:43pm
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

I am moving my stamps to different places but i still need to move 25,000 lots. Really slow there.

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rwillis29
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03 Apr 2014
06:56:58pm
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

olderthandirt is still on BS

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michael78651

03 Apr 2014
08:00:46pm
re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Thanks.

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02 Apr 2014
07:23:33pm

The official announcement from BS:

"This is why we believe the time is right to consolidate our online presence into a single entity - the Stanley Gibbons Marketplace. Within the next few months, when it’s ready, we will be basing our new version of our marketplace directly on our primary domain name..."



I have deliberately left out the domain name.

As suspected when SG first bought BS, so it should come as no surprise.

I only wish they had not removed all the old forum posts before I had an opportunity to download some posts. But that's water under the bridge...
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michael78651

02 Apr 2014
10:09:00pm

re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

I haven't even been on that site for a long time now. My son told me that his BS account was suspended. He only buys and sells there, and has nothing to do with the forums. He never asked for his account to be closed.

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02 Apr 2014
10:28:40pm

re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Well this only confirms what I posted there a couple of months ago then was immediately suspended. Laughing In a way it has been a good thing no more BS bs.

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02 Apr 2014
11:36:28pm

re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Wow, some of you have been bad boys -- getting suspended. I crossed the bridge before they could do that. Big Grin It's amazing after all these years, I haven't gotten suspended or expelled, yet!

Well, that closes a long chapter with bittersweet memories. Fortunately, some of the best parts of that chapter make a subsequent reappearance in the following chapter. Thanks all!

Let's not forgot oneeaglelover, dianealthea, stampsz, jtbt1092... up there in the big stamp vault in the sky.

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michael78651

03 Apr 2014
05:55:46am

re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Fondly remember them all.

Whatever happened to olderthandirt?

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cocollectibles

03 Apr 2014
07:18:11am

re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Kim, yes, they will be remembered fondly. And Ross, you are vindicated! I read your posts and they did not warrant such action IMHO. That was the proverbial straw that led me to quit the site.

The newsletter announcement noted that the "old" bidStart site will be gone in favor of the new SG site. I wonder how they will make me pay my outstanding balance of 56c, which represented my fees for the last month I was there (December)? The chapter is closed.

Peter

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michael78651

03 Apr 2014
08:48:46am

re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

I owe them 38 cents from October. They aren't looking to collect it. If they ever get that desperate and they need it, I'll send them 50 cents along with a big kiss-off.

I quit there too because of how they treated Ross. Not being on BS anymore gives me more time to spend on porn sites I mean Stamporama!! I hope no one saw that. Whew

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03 Apr 2014
09:49:17am

re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

I was never a member of BS, but reading all the comments over the past year has given me an insight into how an organization can alienate and mistreat the persons it purportedly serves. I am often chastised for being overly attentive to rule enforcement and for my authoritarian attitude when, in fact, I am just trying to make the Stamporama experience as transparent as possible, so a BS incident will never happen here. Additionally, the VC would never tolerate the type of mean spirited, brazen and disrespectful attitude exhibited by the BS admins and mods.

This is a great club, and I appreciate SOR all the more when I read such comments.

Bobby

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Martyn

03 Apr 2014
10:14:10am

re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

I never used the BS forum, but used to buy and sell on BS, I gave up about 5-6 months or so ago when they started making it that the lost cost stamps cost too much to sell. I just got an email saying my bill stands at $4.55 and as such was under the $5 minimum so not yet due. As I have no intention of ever going back there I don't see this ever getting paid unless they lower their minimum payment

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03 Apr 2014
10:18:44am

re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

I just realized that I will probably lose all my purchasing information. While they might transfer account/feedback information, I doubt they will transfer old listings. That was one of the many nice things about BS until they decided to purge the membership. I guess I'd better find the time this week to download it all. Long list of penny auctions...

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To error is human -to really fowl things up takes a computer
03 Apr 2014
10:41:55am

re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

When The BS management terminated my membership I had an account balance of $0.91. I wanted to pay my balance off and be done with them. They said dont worry about its only $0.91. After several back and forth e-mails I demanded they take payment as I wanted absolutely nothing out there to discredit me. 2 weeks later I got an invoice via Paypal and paid my balance off. Done with them for good.
With SG at the helm now and with them having a horrid 1st quarter in sales and a 7% drop in stock value with the announcement of the up coming SG Collectibles Market Place website, I dont see them passing up on any amount of owed monies.

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03 Apr 2014
11:16:41am

re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Well, BD's suspension got me all curious (and riled up again). So I went back to see what happened. Of course, all the juicy stuff got removed, and replaced with a blanket accusation by BS management. It sounds like what they did was simply cut and paste BD's deleted post and put it into this month's newsletter. They aren't happy because BD let the cat out of the bag too early. Again, something most of us long suspected when SG bought BS and a lot of major changes were made without the "forum testing/comments" of previous years.

We can pretty much figure out who comprised the so-called "test group" that BS administration relied upon rather than the SW Forum.

That will be my last visit back to the BS Forum, or soon to be SG spin forum.

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03 Apr 2014
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re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Kim,
It was public knowledge posted on the SG Investment Groups "Press Release" link. At least the door didnt hit me I was on my way out. I just didnt like the deception, lack of communication and the treatment that many founding members received from staff when things got rough.
It was best put by Cheap Trick:
Bye-bye, so long, farewell
Bye-bye, so long, sayonara
Bye-bye, au revoir, auf wiedersehen
Bye-bye, so long, farewell
Bye-bye, so long, suicide
Bye-bye, so long, hari kari, kamikaze

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cocollectibles

03 Apr 2014
12:56:08pm

re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

The lyrics of the Academy Award winning song "Let it Go" from "Frozen" captures my sentiment with respect to that site:

"Let it go, let it go
Can’t hold it back anymore
Let it go, let it go
Turn away and slam the door

I don’t care
What they’re going to say
Let the storm rage on,
The cold never bothered me anyway"



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"TO ERR IS HUMAN; TO FORGIVE, CANINE."

The past is a foreign country, they do things different there.
03 Apr 2014
01:40:01pm

re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

Shocking, but my few stamp purchases on BidStart
were experiences of exquisite joy. Why?

The BidStart sellers were all members of Stamporama!

John Derry

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"Much happiness is overlooked because it doesn't cost anything. "

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rwillis29

03 Apr 2014
02:36:43pm

re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

I am moving my stamps to different places but i still need to move 25,000 lots. Really slow there.

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03 Apr 2014
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re: No surprise -- Bidstart converting to Stanley Gibbons

olderthandirt is still on BS

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michael78651

03 Apr 2014
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Thanks.

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