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19 May 2014
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I like to browse the auctions and often see stamps i can use...but the roadblocks are just too much...some say NO EBAY, others NO Checks, another says contact me for shipping charges..why should i have to do that if i am a collector with good credentials ? They do not make it easy !
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19 May 2014
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No eBay? Not sure what you mean.

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19 May 2014
09:20:16pm
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Bob,
He probably meant Paypal, not Ebay, but he's too cornfused.

Phil, some people just love redundancy, over and over again.

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20 May 2014
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"another says contact me for shipping charges"



That's a big gripe of mine on SOR. I haven't looked at that many lots here, but the ones I have looked at for one country in particular are often from the same seller, and it always says "contact me for shipping charges."

For US shipping, for a single stamp, I would think a seller would know by now how much s/he wants to charge. I've never gone to the trouble to contact that seller, because I don't want the item(s) that badly, and it annoys me that I'd have to ask.

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20 May 2014
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re: Do they really want to sell stamps ?

I agree. A seller should be required to state all terms and conditions of sales. It is not a mystery game, and lends itself to criticism towards the selling process, after a buyer has made the obligation to purchase an item, as a seller can manipulate the shipping fees to make up for any loss in the sale price.

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20 May 2014
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re: Do they really want to sell stamps ?

Our rules are clear... You may list any charges you want, but in the absence od something else specified, sellers can only charge cost of shipping. I must assume a seller asking others to ask is only going to say what the scale says... One ounce is 49c.

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20 May 2014
07:46:51am
re: Do they really want to sell stamps ?

I do not know about the auction in question where the seller stated "contact me for shipping charges," but I can surmise it is part of his/her "set up terms" and is not specific to any single transaction, but rather aimed at addressing shipping charges for all possible auctions where weight and/or packaging requirements can vary the charges. In my terms, I state:

" Actual postage...For items which fit into a #6 or #10 envelope this is easy to calculate at http://postcalc.usps.com/. If you are unsure about weight and size, CONTACT ME BEFORE BIDDING. "

Same thing.

As to "no checks," I also do not accept checks. Over the years I have been burned once too often by checks drawn on insufficient funds, resulting in charges by my bank to me for something over which I have no control. Considering the fact that most transactions here are less than $10, I do not see this as a great inconvenience to the buyer. Plus, I accept PayPal on ALL purchases, regardless of amount, with no surcharges (I just eat the fees as they are minimal).

PayPal: I can almost understand why Sellers do not accept PayPal (especially on small orders) because of fees to the Seller. But I absolutely cannot understand why a Buyer refuses to use PayPal (where it is an option) to pay for items as there are no fees involved. In fact, Buyers who use PayPal save the cost of envelopes, postage and their time - I see no negatives here (perhaps someone can educate me).

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20 May 2014
09:46:58am
re: Do they really want to sell stamps ?

A buyer, such as myself, who doesn't have PayPal and isn't interested in setting it up for a few small stamp purchases would then not use it.

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20 May 2014
11:37:02am
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If someone, in their Terms and Conditions, states that the shipping fee is "actual postage", I am fine with that.

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20 May 2014
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Generally speaking, it is a pain to constantly deal with registering with this or that web site and mess about trying to remember usernames, passwords, and sometimes multiple emails. But when it comes to paying for on-line purchases, I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't use PayPal. It's well designed, seems as secure as anything can be these days (certainly no less secure than giving your credit card number over the phone or your credit card itself to a restaurant waiter in a restaurant), and saves a great deal of hassle. Since so many dealers require PayPal, it seems masochistic to me to deny its advantages.

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20 May 2014
05:07:23pm
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Nor am I a salesman for "payPal", but I have to agree with Bob.

A wide array of commercial institutes accept payPal, not just sellers
on the internet. Security, convenience and outright usefulness make
it a must-have for me.

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20 May 2014
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I always look forward to your comments Mr. Derry. Well said. Thumbs Up

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20 May 2014
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re: Do they really want to sell stamps ?

Very true about PayPal - many online merchants now use PayPal. Some give buyers an option of using their credit card directly to their secured site but may say that for extra security the buyer may choose PayPal instead. I think this is because they cannot give a guarantee of their site security as much as PayPal can.

As for sellers here, I don't see why anyone would not list their postage fees. They can always state that larger purchases may come to a higher fee due to weight which should be obvious to the buyer if they are purchasing 100 stamps as opposed to one.

Just my nickel's worth of thoughts (thoughts aren't worth a penny anymore here in Canada!) Big Grin

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20 May 2014
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Thanks for all the responses...Bobstamp i did mean Paypal not Ebay..sorry, i think its early dementia..its a good day if i only forget myHypnotized shampoo at the gym !

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20 May 2014
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I stopped in the Dollar store the other day and when I went to slide my card, (who uses cash anymore) I was surprised to see the Paypal option on their card machine. I'm sure there must be plenty of other businesses that accept Paypal, but I don't get out much anymore, by choice.
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20 May 2014
11:06:48pm
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The Paypal mobile app actually tells you which businesses near you (based on your phone's GPS) accept it.

I still haven't used it anywhere else except online.

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21 May 2014
02:06:13pm
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Dave -
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21 May 2014
02:59:47pm
re: Do they really want to sell stamps ?

Phil -- Happy to oblige! (although it's not very complete -- so much more to list.)

Also happy to answer any questions directly on SOR. (Perhaps in a new thread, to keep this one from going further off-topic.)

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21 May 2014
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The Home Depot accepts Paypal.

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21 May 2014
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With Home Depot we probably do better with their card or our credit card..but its good to know !

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21 May 2014
04:21:47pm
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I'll have to pay attention next time I'm in there.

You can pay with PayPal without having a PayPal card? Does anyone know if it's possible to get cash back that way? That would be faster than waiting for funds to be transferred to my bank account. (Although it does only seem to take 1-2 days -- faster than what they say in their confirmation message.)

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21 May 2014
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Whether a seller accepts paypal or not does not influence me, if I want it I will pay him/her with whatever method they prefer.

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21 May 2014
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So would i, but i would prefer to click paypal rather than write a check !

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19 May 2014
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I like to browse the auctions and often see stamps i can use...but the roadblocks are just too much...some say NO EBAY, others NO Checks, another says contact me for shipping charges..why should i have to do that if i am a collector with good credentials ? They do not make it easy !

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No eBay? Not sure what you mean.

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19 May 2014
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Bob,
He probably meant Paypal, not Ebay, but he's too cornfused.

Phil, some people just love redundancy, over and over again.

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20 May 2014
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"another says contact me for shipping charges"



That's a big gripe of mine on SOR. I haven't looked at that many lots here, but the ones I have looked at for one country in particular are often from the same seller, and it always says "contact me for shipping charges."

For US shipping, for a single stamp, I would think a seller would know by now how much s/he wants to charge. I've never gone to the trouble to contact that seller, because I don't want the item(s) that badly, and it annoys me that I'd have to ask.

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20 May 2014
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re: Do they really want to sell stamps ?

I agree. A seller should be required to state all terms and conditions of sales. It is not a mystery game, and lends itself to criticism towards the selling process, after a buyer has made the obligation to purchase an item, as a seller can manipulate the shipping fees to make up for any loss in the sale price.

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20 May 2014
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re: Do they really want to sell stamps ?

Our rules are clear... You may list any charges you want, but in the absence od something else specified, sellers can only charge cost of shipping. I must assume a seller asking others to ask is only going to say what the scale says... One ounce is 49c.

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re: Do they really want to sell stamps ?

I do not know about the auction in question where the seller stated "contact me for shipping charges," but I can surmise it is part of his/her "set up terms" and is not specific to any single transaction, but rather aimed at addressing shipping charges for all possible auctions where weight and/or packaging requirements can vary the charges. In my terms, I state:

" Actual postage...For items which fit into a #6 or #10 envelope this is easy to calculate at http://postcalc.usps.com/. If you are unsure about weight and size, CONTACT ME BEFORE BIDDING. "

Same thing.

As to "no checks," I also do not accept checks. Over the years I have been burned once too often by checks drawn on insufficient funds, resulting in charges by my bank to me for something over which I have no control. Considering the fact that most transactions here are less than $10, I do not see this as a great inconvenience to the buyer. Plus, I accept PayPal on ALL purchases, regardless of amount, with no surcharges (I just eat the fees as they are minimal).

PayPal: I can almost understand why Sellers do not accept PayPal (especially on small orders) because of fees to the Seller. But I absolutely cannot understand why a Buyer refuses to use PayPal (where it is an option) to pay for items as there are no fees involved. In fact, Buyers who use PayPal save the cost of envelopes, postage and their time - I see no negatives here (perhaps someone can educate me).

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A buyer, such as myself, who doesn't have PayPal and isn't interested in setting it up for a few small stamp purchases would then not use it.

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20 May 2014
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If someone, in their Terms and Conditions, states that the shipping fee is "actual postage", I am fine with that.

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20 May 2014
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Generally speaking, it is a pain to constantly deal with registering with this or that web site and mess about trying to remember usernames, passwords, and sometimes multiple emails. But when it comes to paying for on-line purchases, I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't use PayPal. It's well designed, seems as secure as anything can be these days (certainly no less secure than giving your credit card number over the phone or your credit card itself to a restaurant waiter in a restaurant), and saves a great deal of hassle. Since so many dealers require PayPal, it seems masochistic to me to deny its advantages.

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Nor am I a salesman for "payPal", but I have to agree with Bob.

A wide array of commercial institutes accept payPal, not just sellers
on the internet. Security, convenience and outright usefulness make
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I always look forward to your comments Mr. Derry. Well said. Thumbs Up

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re: Do they really want to sell stamps ?

Very true about PayPal - many online merchants now use PayPal. Some give buyers an option of using their credit card directly to their secured site but may say that for extra security the buyer may choose PayPal instead. I think this is because they cannot give a guarantee of their site security as much as PayPal can.

As for sellers here, I don't see why anyone would not list their postage fees. They can always state that larger purchases may come to a higher fee due to weight which should be obvious to the buyer if they are purchasing 100 stamps as opposed to one.

Just my nickel's worth of thoughts (thoughts aren't worth a penny anymore here in Canada!) Big Grin

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Thanks for all the responses...Bobstamp i did mean Paypal not Ebay..sorry, i think its early dementia..its a good day if i only forget myHypnotized shampoo at the gym !

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I stopped in the Dollar store the other day and when I went to slide my card, (who uses cash anymore) I was surprised to see the Paypal option on their card machine. I'm sure there must be plenty of other businesses that accept Paypal, but I don't get out much anymore, by choice.
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The Paypal mobile app actually tells you which businesses near you (based on your phone's GPS) accept it.

I still haven't used it anywhere else except online.

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Phil -- Happy to oblige! (although it's not very complete -- so much more to list.)

Also happy to answer any questions directly on SOR. (Perhaps in a new thread, to keep this one from going further off-topic.)

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I'll have to pay attention next time I'm in there.

You can pay with PayPal without having a PayPal card? Does anyone know if it's possible to get cash back that way? That would be faster than waiting for funds to be transferred to my bank account. (Although it does only seem to take 1-2 days -- faster than what they say in their confirmation message.)

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21 May 2014
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Whether a seller accepts paypal or not does not influence me, if I want it I will pay him/her with whatever method they prefer.

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