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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Glassine Envelopes

 

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tuscany4me
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23 Aug 2014
03:32:29pm
Thinking I can't remember who I was saving the "small" Glassine Envelopes for?

If it was YOU, please send me an email or message.

Thanks

Clayton

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TuskenRaider
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23 Aug 2014
06:26:00pm
re: Glassine Envelopes

Hi Clayton;

No I'm not the one, but after reading your question about collecting glassines with printing on, I sent this message to a fellow member.

Here is my question to londonbus1;


"Hi londonbus1;

I have a few. Do you consider them collectible if written on?

Regards
Ken"


and this is the reply I got back;

"If they have a printed ad on them or table of contents, I collect them. If they are additionally written on, it matters not. If only writing, then no."

I think you should contact londonbus1, thru the private message system and describe what you have available.

Regards
Ken Tall Pines

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philatelia
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24 Aug 2014
08:19:45am
re: Glassine Envelopes

On the subject of glassines - I recently bought a new box to use in my red boxes with my 104 cards. Instead of having a triangular flap in the back, the flap is horizontal and there in a fold along the bottom of the envelope. The old style glassines were smooth on the backs. The problem is when you slide them in and out of the box, they catch on that fold. I started taping the fold, but got tired of that and decided to just buy some new ones. So, if you're buying glassines, beware!

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TuskenRaider
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24 Aug 2014
02:35:26pm
re: Glassine Envelopes

Hi Everyone;

This is a quote of one of my previous rants from about a month ago:

"How about Westvaco's decision to switch to bottom flap glassines as opposed to end flaps in order to save a hundredth of a cent per envelope. This has forced some suppliers like Subway and others to switch to Cenvco. Actually Westvaco was acquired by Mead to become MeadWestvaco and in Feb 2011 they sold their envelope division to Cenvaco.

While Mead was in charge, was when they stupidly decided to change a product that has worked for many decades, without bothering to think about how they are used. They quickly realized that suddenly nobody wanted to buy them anymore. geewiz why not??? So they sold that division to Cenvaco, who quickly switched back to the end flaps.

Meanwhile many suppliers are stuck with these useless transition envelopes. The new ones from Cenvaco, are of good quality, and are much more slippery than the others. So don't try to grab 50-100 of them at once unless you like resorting envelopes. They can be had for $30.00-$35.00 per thousand (#3s), if you shop around. So buyer beware! If you decide to buy 1,000 or more at a time, try to call the supplier by phone to verify they are not bottom flap. I didn't and got stuck with 3,000 (#4s) of the *&,%@# things.

In case I lost all of you in the dust of this rant, Here is why these envelopes are useless. When you place many of these envelopes in a shoe box or file card drawer or other filing system, they get caught on the bottom flap of the envelope just in front of where you are trying to jam another envelope in. They then become bent bottom flaps, even more likely to snag the next time.

I have seen these transition envelopes on sale for especially low prices, and thought them a great bargain, until I saw photos of all the bottom flaps."



Beware of bargain envelopes on eBay and other web sellers, as some wholesalers will try to sell off bottom flat envelopes at cost, to recoup their losses. I talked to someone at Subway and they told me they had nothing but complaints because of them.

I did the research on this company using Google, because I didn't want to get burned again, and wanted to be proactive about making sure that future purchases would result in the good old fashioned ones.

Happy collecting
Ken Tall Pines

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londonbus1
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24 Aug 2014
04:18:21pm
re: Glassine Envelopes

I'm the odd fellow who collects Advertising glassines. Not sure how it started but I have been after strange things for a while now.......

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31 Aug 2014
04:35:23am
re: Glassine Envelopes

I didn't know that Mike, but when I get home I'll put some in the mail for you. Probably common as dirt but I've been sticking them in an envelope for years and will never do anything with them in this lifetime.
Charlie
PS: Unless I forget, so a reminder in a month or two would be welcome.

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tuscany4me

23 Aug 2014
03:32:29pm

Thinking I can't remember who I was saving the "small" Glassine Envelopes for?

If it was YOU, please send me an email or message.

Thanks

Clayton

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TuskenRaider

23 Aug 2014
06:26:00pm

re: Glassine Envelopes

Hi Clayton;

No I'm not the one, but after reading your question about collecting glassines with printing on, I sent this message to a fellow member.

Here is my question to londonbus1;


"Hi londonbus1;

I have a few. Do you consider them collectible if written on?

Regards
Ken"


and this is the reply I got back;

"If they have a printed ad on them or table of contents, I collect them. If they are additionally written on, it matters not. If only writing, then no."

I think you should contact londonbus1, thru the private message system and describe what you have available.

Regards
Ken Tall Pines

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philatelia

24 Aug 2014
08:19:45am

re: Glassine Envelopes

On the subject of glassines - I recently bought a new box to use in my red boxes with my 104 cards. Instead of having a triangular flap in the back, the flap is horizontal and there in a fold along the bottom of the envelope. The old style glassines were smooth on the backs. The problem is when you slide them in and out of the box, they catch on that fold. I started taping the fold, but got tired of that and decided to just buy some new ones. So, if you're buying glassines, beware!

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"August 2023 - selling penny start bargain lots on EBay - https://www.ebay.com/str/philatelia"

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TuskenRaider

24 Aug 2014
02:35:26pm

re: Glassine Envelopes

Hi Everyone;

This is a quote of one of my previous rants from about a month ago:

"How about Westvaco's decision to switch to bottom flap glassines as opposed to end flaps in order to save a hundredth of a cent per envelope. This has forced some suppliers like Subway and others to switch to Cenvco. Actually Westvaco was acquired by Mead to become MeadWestvaco and in Feb 2011 they sold their envelope division to Cenvaco.

While Mead was in charge, was when they stupidly decided to change a product that has worked for many decades, without bothering to think about how they are used. They quickly realized that suddenly nobody wanted to buy them anymore. geewiz why not??? So they sold that division to Cenvaco, who quickly switched back to the end flaps.

Meanwhile many suppliers are stuck with these useless transition envelopes. The new ones from Cenvaco, are of good quality, and are much more slippery than the others. So don't try to grab 50-100 of them at once unless you like resorting envelopes. They can be had for $30.00-$35.00 per thousand (#3s), if you shop around. So buyer beware! If you decide to buy 1,000 or more at a time, try to call the supplier by phone to verify they are not bottom flap. I didn't and got stuck with 3,000 (#4s) of the *&,%@# things.

In case I lost all of you in the dust of this rant, Here is why these envelopes are useless. When you place many of these envelopes in a shoe box or file card drawer or other filing system, they get caught on the bottom flap of the envelope just in front of where you are trying to jam another envelope in. They then become bent bottom flaps, even more likely to snag the next time.

I have seen these transition envelopes on sale for especially low prices, and thought them a great bargain, until I saw photos of all the bottom flaps."



Beware of bargain envelopes on eBay and other web sellers, as some wholesalers will try to sell off bottom flat envelopes at cost, to recoup their losses. I talked to someone at Subway and they told me they had nothing but complaints because of them.

I did the research on this company using Google, because I didn't want to get burned again, and wanted to be proactive about making sure that future purchases would result in the good old fashioned ones.

Happy collecting
Ken Tall Pines

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londonbus1

24 Aug 2014
04:18:21pm

re: Glassine Envelopes

I'm the odd fellow who collects Advertising glassines. Not sure how it started but I have been after strange things for a while now.......

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
31 Aug 2014
04:35:23am

re: Glassine Envelopes

I didn't know that Mike, but when I get home I'll put some in the mail for you. Probably common as dirt but I've been sticking them in an envelope for years and will never do anything with them in this lifetime.
Charlie
PS: Unless I forget, so a reminder in a month or two would be welcome.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
        

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