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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Using Hinges?

 

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22 Oct 2014
08:33:17pm
I've just spent the last hour trying to figure out how to apply a hinge to a stamp, and have figured out that either I'm not smart enough to apply one or that I don't have the manual dexterity to complete the task.

Any hints, tips, or otherwise useful information on how to set a hinge.

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22 Oct 2014
08:44:20pm
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I use a slightly damp Q-tip. Attach the hinge to your paper (long side), then simply swipe the Q-tip over the short piece that is going to attach to your stamp and lay your stamp over it. I use spade tongs so I often just lightly touch the stamp at the hinge mark to make sure it is fastened. You don't need much moisture and you don't need to have the entire hinge moistened. Just swipe the Q-tip and it will work well Happy Good luck Happy

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22 Oct 2014
08:53:09pm
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I will have to try that next time I am hinging. Thanks, Poodle Mum, and you too StanC, for asking the question! Happy
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22 Oct 2014
08:56:12pm
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Thank you Kelly. I'm going to be trying that technique. I had the QTip and was using that, but I tried to mount it to the stamp first which I see is backwards.

With Kelly's method, I've hinged 6 stamps in short order! Woohoo! Thank you.

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22 Oct 2014
09:42:31pm
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I have always mounted the hinge to the stamp first. And I use just everyday ol' spit (take a while to learn the proper amount, though). Been doing it that way for over 50 years and no problems yet.

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22 Oct 2014
09:58:38pm
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I also hinge the stamp first, and use "plain 'ol spit". Always have. I don't lick the entire surface of either part of the hinge. Just a touch with my mostly dry tongue is more than enough, both for the part of the hinge that touches the stamp and the part that touches the page. It helps to put the stamp on a flat non-slick surface, so it doesn't slide around. I tape a sheet of black construction paper down on my work area, which gives me a dark background for examining stamps in general, and the surface is rough enough that the stamp stays put while I hinge it.

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22 Oct 2014
10:00:53pm
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Understand all that, and until I heard of Kelly's method, all I did was ruin some used stamps. It seems that it takes an act of Congress or a Papal blessing to hinge a stamp. I guess it has a lot to do with manual dexterity.

I like the idea of the black construction paper and will use that at some point.

Maybe I'll figure it out and it will be like riding a bike at some point.

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22 Oct 2014
10:15:21pm
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Instead of ruining stamps, practice by cutting a sheet of plain paper into a bunch of stamp-sized pieces, then try hinging those to another sheet of plain paper. Develop a repetitive method that's comfortable for you, and after a while, it will become second nature.

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22 Oct 2014
10:35:49pm
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I will do that until it becomes like riding a bike. Thanks for all the good advice.

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22 Oct 2014
11:13:09pm
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Never try to remove a wet hinge from a stamp. It will damage the stamp. Here is an article on how to use stamp hinges. It is by well-known philatelist Janet Klug.

http://www.linns.com/howto/refresher/confessions_20071008/refreshercourse.aspx

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23 Oct 2014
10:57:00am
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My best advice: Buy packages of Dennison hinges on eBay (that's Dennison with an o, not Dennisen with an e). Many are available, even though they're no longer made, and are the only truly peelable hinges made, at least in the lifetimes of most of us. They're likely to be expensive, but they work well. The only drawback is that they are probably too expensive if you plan to mount tens of thousands of stamps.

StanC said that he had ruined some used stamps. As michael78651 said, the only way to ruin a hinged, used stamp is to try to remove a damp hinge. That's bound to remove paper fibres from the stamp. Otherwise, if the stamp just has a hinge on it that has been placed badly, just soak the hinge off and try again. Minor Faults noted correctly that it's important not to wet the hinge, but to just moisten it.

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23 Oct 2014
12:36:22pm
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" .... And I use just everyday ol' spit ...."

I have been using Bobby's method for over fifty years. It seems like spit is virtually inexhaustible as long as I am breathing.


There is one thing I wonder about.
Suppose you buy a nicely mounted group of stamps from Outer Thumbelina that were all propely hinged on their album pages. As stamps are removed it becomes apparent that the stamps had been attached to the album with the least necessary moisture and it was done quite neatly. The old hinge is attached to the stamp and there is plenty of glue that seems untouched so that the stamp and hinge can be reattached to your album with no difficulty.
The question is, should you, either using spit or the q-tip method reuse the hinge as it is ?
After all it is entirely possible that the original user did not use the moistened q-tip technology. Is that sanitary to re-spit the hinge ?

Suppose the salts and acids in you spittle re-activate some long dormant virus. Modern science suspects strongly that certain viral strains can survive eons of time in the vacuum and cold of space while attached to a meteor and can be revived, bringing a transfer of "life" to the Earth. Could the same happen to the collector who inadvertently brings "life" back to an ancient form of Ebola ?
If the very worst happens and life on this planet is threatened will I be able to blame the pandemic on the migrants who strolled across the Rio Grande in the summer?

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23 Oct 2014
12:53:23pm
re: Using Hinges?

You worry too much, Charlie. Lick the damn thing and stick it in your album. You don't find those good hinges that often so you gotta take 'em as they come.Big Grin

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23 Oct 2014
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Charlie said, "Suppose you buy a nicely mounted group of stamps from Outer Thumbelina that were all properly hinged on their album pages."

Definitive Response: Why are you collecting Outer Thumbelina? No one else does!

"As stamps are removed it becomes apparent that the stamps had been attached to the album with the least necessary moisture and it was done quite neatly. The old hinge is attached to the stamp and there is plenty of glue that seems untouched so that the stamp and hinge can be reattached to your album with no difficulty.
The question is, should you, either using spit or the q-tip method reuse the hinge as it is?"


Definitive Answer: Yes. Or perhaps not.

"Is that sanitary to re-spit the hinge?"

Definitive Answer: No. Or, maybe, yes. Life is risky. Take a chance! Or don't. If you do, please name me in your will as the beneficiary of your stamp collection.

Suppose the salts and acids in you spittle re-activate some long dormant virus. Modern science suspects strongly that certain viral strains can survive eons of time in the vacuum and cold of space while attached to a meteor and can be revived, bringing a transfer of "life" to the Earth. Could the same happen to the collector who inadvertently brings "life" back to an ancient form of Ebola?"

Definitive Answer: Maybe.

"If the very worst happens and life on this planet is threatened will I be able to blame the pandemic on the migrants who strolled across the Rio Grande in the summer?"

Definitive Answer: Of course! Republicans and some Democrats engage in this same kind of illogic all the time! If it's good enough for them, surely it is good enough for you! After all, they are our leaders, and we should always trust our leaders. Well, maybe not always. Actually, maybe not ever!

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23 Oct 2014
01:41:59pm
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I tried to remove the hinge from the stamp before it had dried sufficiently therefore creating nice thins on the used stamps I was trying to mount in my used album. I know better now.

I want to hinge my used stamps because mounts aren't needed for these stamps.

But, I'm beginning to think that mounts are a lot easier to use than hinges. Either that, or I'm completely uncoordinated with any brain to hand activity. Winking

I'll have to try the Bobby spit method. Winking

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23 Oct 2014
01:44:18pm

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i have thought about the possibility of a germ being on a stamp hinge for 50 years,then if its a DENNISON hinge i promptly relick it and add it to my collection. Remember when it comes to spit... use it sparingly !

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23 Oct 2014
04:11:27pm
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Old hinges that are re-used tend to curl and attach themselves to the back of the stamp, causing the front flap and the bottom part of the hinge to be attached to the stamp. Too risky, plus hinges don't cost that much to be a 3/100th of a cent pincher.

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23 Oct 2014
06:21:29pm

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i could not believe it when a couple of people said they cut hinges in two...now thats being CHEEP !

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23 Oct 2014
07:56:55pm
re: Using Hinges?

1. Reuse hinges? Yes! Especially if the old hinges peel nicely. I even have a small container of used hinges just waiting for the right stamp to come along.

2. How to mount? Stamp first, then into the album. Place the hinge near the top of the stamp, but at least 1/16" below the perforations.

3. Moisture control? Very important as others have noted. My unorthodox method: After lightly licking the hinge, I drag the just-moistened part of the hinge over the back of my left index finger (I'm right handed). This takes off any excess spittle, although it does leave some gummy residue on my finger. After applying the hinge to the stamp, I repeat the procedure for the large part of the hinge.

4. Use of tongs? Yes, absolutely. Use the tongs to hold the hinge while affixing the hinge to the stamp. Then use the tongs to hold the hinged stamp while placing the stamp in the album. Helps tremendously with placement.

5. Step-by-step? Sure why not:
(0) Wash and dry hands (usually only once per evening is sufficient).
(1) Place stamp face down, top angled away from you.
(2) Pick up hinge with tongs, grabbing the longer side.
(3) Lightly moisten the small tab on the hinge.
(4) Wipe the just-moistened part of the hinge over the back of your finger.
(5) Place the just-moistened tab evenly on the back of the stamp, near the top.
(6) Lightly press the hinge with the flat part of the tongs or some other flat, non-sharp surface to smooth it out if needed.
(7) Pick up the hinged stamp with the tongs.
(8) Lightly moisten the large tab on the hinge.
(9) Wipe the just-moistened part of the hinge over the back of your finger.
(10) Hold the stamp face up and place it on the album page.
(10a) If the hinge curls, you can grip the stamp and hinge together with the tongs to keep it flat while mounting.
(11) Gently press the stamp to get it to mount evenly or smooth out, if needed.

Best of luck!
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23 Oct 2014
08:43:01pm

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I also use a Qtip. Call me paranoid, but I never put stuff in my mouth that I wont eat. I always imagine things on things! Like I don't lick an envelope to close it, and when stamps were WAG's I always used a moistened sponge. So with the hinges, I use the Qtip method. It works well for me and just a little bit of very controlled moisture is used.

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23 Oct 2014
08:46:53pm
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I'd add:

(0a) If you take a break to have a snack or do anything that might transfer oils or dirt to your hands, wash them again before you go back to your stamps.

(0b) Keep your work area free of food and beverages and anything else that has the potential for damaging a stamp. Accidents, curious small children, and playful pets happen. Minimize the risk. I realize this might offend some, but I'd also exclude smoking materials. Besides the reek of stale smoke on the stamps and pages, I've seen a number of collections for sale over the years with tobacco ash scattered among the pages. No, I didn't buy them.

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23 Oct 2014
10:06:32pm
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"i could not believe it when a couple of people said they cut hinges in two...now thats being CHEEP !"



At around $15.00 per thousand for original Fold-o-Hinges or Dennison's, yep I cut em in half.

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23 Oct 2014
10:19:05pm
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"but I never put stuff in my mouth that I wont eat."



Oh, I don't know. I think hinges are good. They taste like chicken.
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24 Oct 2014
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Whilst we are lickin' an stickin' hinges.....does it matter the age of the hinge? I mean, will the age of the hinge affect the stamp? And would that be with or without the BBQ sauce and sweet tea? Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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all this worry and angst just reinforces me in my resolve to continue to use Scotch tape when the Elmer's glue runs out.

as to migrants, which was discussed about 45 posts ago, I do not worry about the Rio Grande. Those folk bring me my fruits and vegetables. No, I worry, as, apparently the INS and border patrol do, about the St Lawrence Seaway. Hell, those people are socialists, and they make it difficult to get to Alaska. Worse, do you have any idea how many roles might have gone to Americans if Richard Dreyfus hadn't stolen them. Those are good-paying roles, not apple-picking wages. We can't get the barbed wire up fast enough. We've done a good job quaranteeing the mail, giving it the required 21 day isolation period.

i suppose this is an unhinged response, but what do you expect when you bring up this political/economic hot spot. Besides, if Canada really were a good place, Rush Limbaugh would live there and get his illicit drugs legally.

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24 Oct 2014
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OMG David - I am almost literally ROTFL - rolling on the floor laughing!!!

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24 Oct 2014
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Hobby Lobby sells Supersafe hinges $3.95 for 1,000 good hinges.

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24 Oct 2014
09:51:25am
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I just copied this response from Michael from another post.

Just an FYI that Hobby Lobby does sell some philatelic items. While their selection is rather slim, they do have plastic stock pages (Safe brand, I think), some Showgard mounts, Supersafe hinges, a few stock books, albums, and a few other assorted items including stamp packets.

If you subscribe to the Hobby Lobby email newsletter, they usually include a 40% off one item coupon. You can print it out, take it to Hobby Lobby and get 40% off the regular price of one item. One coupon per visit per day is the norm. There are three stores a short distance from me. I print out three coupons and visit all three stores. Good savings on a regular basis. Today, for example, I saved about $30 on model railroad-related items. It's definitely worth it.

I hope he doesn't mind me adding this to this post/question.Thinking

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24 Oct 2014
10:14:24am
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No problemo.

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24 Oct 2014
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Would someone check and make sure David is taking his medication? I'm worried!Worried

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Bobby, How can i tell if hes off or on the meds ?Happy

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Considering the fact that both David and Bobby are certifiable, I'm starting to get concerned when Bobby asks that question! Silly

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24 Oct 2014
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" ... Bobby, How can i tell if he's off or on the meds ? ..."

That is like wondering if your bagpipes are in tune.

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24 Oct 2014
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"Bobby, How can i tell if hes off or on the meds ?"

This very long thread with not one pun revolving around "hinge"? David is either off his game or off his meds!

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24 Oct 2014
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"both David and Bobby are certifiable"



But do they have their certificates like I do? Maybe we should start a certifiable list of the members here. Of course I have #1. Or, do you think I'm too meddlesome in this and need meditation before putting on the medal and taking a trip to the Mediterranean? Is there a medic in the house?
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I would like to know when you guys are going to start sharing the drugs! They obviously are very good ones....like the ones you get from Canada!

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24 Oct 2014
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You need a medical slip for medicinal purposes before we can share any meds.

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Don't need a medical slip if you raid the right settlements! Laughing

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"Worse, do you have any idea how many roles might have gone to Americans if Richard Dreyfus hadn't stolen them."



Bah, Dreyfuss is nothin', eh. We're aboot to take over Hollywood, eh?

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Guess I must be living in a different world, don't recognise any of the pictures, strange place Manitoba, world news passes us by. Then again, John Wayne was about the only actor I could name.
Always used SG hinges for my stamps with good old spittle.

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25 Oct 2014
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Thanks for all the advice with hinging stamps. I've learned more about Canada actors and actresses, and know that 1/2 of SOR is medicated. Silly. I'm still trying to figure out whether to use old fashioned spittle that I stored in the fridge over the years or if I can use current spit. Laughing.

Well, I'll laugh at the responses and thank everyone for their advice.

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Who needs Hollywood ? Great Indies and foreign flics on Netflix ..8 bucks a month..can not remember last time i went to a movie theater. Movie theaters were palaces when i was a kid..now they are ticky tacky !!!

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Only half of us medicate ? And all my life i thought escaping reality was what it was all about !Party

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Netflix is great, but I use Amazon Prime which has most of the same movies available.

And, Phil, you failed to answer my question on whether I should used my stored old-fashioned spittle or my current "fresh" spittle for my hinges? Rolling On The Floor Laughing

I'm learning a lot about a lot of subjects I had no idea belonged in the science of philately. Winking

Thanks to everyone for broadening my horizons and helping me get out of my shell. Laughing

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26 Oct 2014
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i ferget sometimes !!Angry

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05 Nov 2014
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Back to use of hinges:

In my opinion, a correctly mounted stamp should be inspectable on the back side without removing it from the page.

This means that I moisten only the bottom 1/4 of the long side before fastening it to the album page and fasten the stamp with the short side of the hinge near the top of the stamp.

I must admit that I wet my fingertip with my tongue and then moisten the hinge, have not tried the Q-tip method....

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19 Nov 2014
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Just an advice about reusing hinges spitted by others.
The real problem is that hinges are so expensive htat one should spare on them...Rolling On The Floor Laughing

But if you can afford a new hinge for those stamps, just soak them and then palce them in your album with a brand new personally-spitted- hinge.Smug

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Hi Everyone;

Re-using hinges, arrgh! what a great way to contract Hepatitis C.

If anyone is so cheap as to consider re-using hinges, go look for a new hobby, coupon clipping, match book covers, or old pop bottle caps.

Lick em & stick em
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Wasn't there a big scare at the turn of the century about getting Typhoid from the mail? I'll have to google that. Hep C too? Ewww. Should we put our mail in the microwave to kill the bacteria? (just joking!)

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19 Nov 2014
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19 Nov 2014
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Okay, now I'm curious. Does anyone know if there is a health risk to using old hinges? I suppose there is a health risk to everything we do, but I mean to the point where we should discourage re-use of hinges? I'm willing to change my habits!

I don't re-use hinges to save cost, by the way. I re-use hinges for three reasons:

1. Saves time to peel the stamp with hinge out of an unwanted album and place it in my album.

2. Some old hinges peel nicely and if/when it comes time to remove the stamps in the future, they will come out easier.

3. With one less hinge swap, there is less damage to the back of the stamp.

Of course, re-use assumes that the old hinge is still in good shape and peelable. That is only about 1 in 3 on a good day.

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20 Nov 2014
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I don't know if there would be a health risk, but why take the chance. Just don't lick it. Which I'm sure you don't anyhow. So if you just moisten the hinge by dipping your finger into a bit of water to apply to the hinge, there probably isn't any more risk to re-use the hinge as there is to touch it to remove it.

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22 Oct 2014
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I've just spent the last hour trying to figure out how to apply a hinge to a stamp, and have figured out that either I'm not smart enough to apply one or that I don't have the manual dexterity to complete the task.

Any hints, tips, or otherwise useful information on how to set a hinge.

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I use a slightly damp Q-tip. Attach the hinge to your paper (long side), then simply swipe the Q-tip over the short piece that is going to attach to your stamp and lay your stamp over it. I use spade tongs so I often just lightly touch the stamp at the hinge mark to make sure it is fastened. You don't need much moisture and you don't need to have the entire hinge moistened. Just swipe the Q-tip and it will work well Happy Good luck Happy

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22 Oct 2014
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I will have to try that next time I am hinging. Thanks, Poodle Mum, and you too StanC, for asking the question! Happy
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22 Oct 2014
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Thank you Kelly. I'm going to be trying that technique. I had the QTip and was using that, but I tried to mount it to the stamp first which I see is backwards.

With Kelly's method, I've hinged 6 stamps in short order! Woohoo! Thank you.

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22 Oct 2014
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I have always mounted the hinge to the stamp first. And I use just everyday ol' spit (take a while to learn the proper amount, though). Been doing it that way for over 50 years and no problems yet.

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22 Oct 2014
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I also hinge the stamp first, and use "plain 'ol spit". Always have. I don't lick the entire surface of either part of the hinge. Just a touch with my mostly dry tongue is more than enough, both for the part of the hinge that touches the stamp and the part that touches the page. It helps to put the stamp on a flat non-slick surface, so it doesn't slide around. I tape a sheet of black construction paper down on my work area, which gives me a dark background for examining stamps in general, and the surface is rough enough that the stamp stays put while I hinge it.

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22 Oct 2014
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Understand all that, and until I heard of Kelly's method, all I did was ruin some used stamps. It seems that it takes an act of Congress or a Papal blessing to hinge a stamp. I guess it has a lot to do with manual dexterity.

I like the idea of the black construction paper and will use that at some point.

Maybe I'll figure it out and it will be like riding a bike at some point.

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22 Oct 2014
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Instead of ruining stamps, practice by cutting a sheet of plain paper into a bunch of stamp-sized pieces, then try hinging those to another sheet of plain paper. Develop a repetitive method that's comfortable for you, and after a while, it will become second nature.

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22 Oct 2014
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I will do that until it becomes like riding a bike. Thanks for all the good advice.

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22 Oct 2014
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Never try to remove a wet hinge from a stamp. It will damage the stamp. Here is an article on how to use stamp hinges. It is by well-known philatelist Janet Klug.

http://www.linns.com/howto/refresher/confessions_20071008/refreshercourse.aspx

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23 Oct 2014
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My best advice: Buy packages of Dennison hinges on eBay (that's Dennison with an o, not Dennisen with an e). Many are available, even though they're no longer made, and are the only truly peelable hinges made, at least in the lifetimes of most of us. They're likely to be expensive, but they work well. The only drawback is that they are probably too expensive if you plan to mount tens of thousands of stamps.

StanC said that he had ruined some used stamps. As michael78651 said, the only way to ruin a hinged, used stamp is to try to remove a damp hinge. That's bound to remove paper fibres from the stamp. Otherwise, if the stamp just has a hinge on it that has been placed badly, just soak the hinge off and try again. Minor Faults noted correctly that it's important not to wet the hinge, but to just moisten it.

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" .... And I use just everyday ol' spit ...."

I have been using Bobby's method for over fifty years. It seems like spit is virtually inexhaustible as long as I am breathing.


There is one thing I wonder about.
Suppose you buy a nicely mounted group of stamps from Outer Thumbelina that were all propely hinged on their album pages. As stamps are removed it becomes apparent that the stamps had been attached to the album with the least necessary moisture and it was done quite neatly. The old hinge is attached to the stamp and there is plenty of glue that seems untouched so that the stamp and hinge can be reattached to your album with no difficulty.
The question is, should you, either using spit or the q-tip method reuse the hinge as it is ?
After all it is entirely possible that the original user did not use the moistened q-tip technology. Is that sanitary to re-spit the hinge ?

Suppose the salts and acids in you spittle re-activate some long dormant virus. Modern science suspects strongly that certain viral strains can survive eons of time in the vacuum and cold of space while attached to a meteor and can be revived, bringing a transfer of "life" to the Earth. Could the same happen to the collector who inadvertently brings "life" back to an ancient form of Ebola ?
If the very worst happens and life on this planet is threatened will I be able to blame the pandemic on the migrants who strolled across the Rio Grande in the summer?

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You worry too much, Charlie. Lick the damn thing and stick it in your album. You don't find those good hinges that often so you gotta take 'em as they come.Big Grin

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23 Oct 2014
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Charlie said, "Suppose you buy a nicely mounted group of stamps from Outer Thumbelina that were all properly hinged on their album pages."

Definitive Response: Why are you collecting Outer Thumbelina? No one else does!

"As stamps are removed it becomes apparent that the stamps had been attached to the album with the least necessary moisture and it was done quite neatly. The old hinge is attached to the stamp and there is plenty of glue that seems untouched so that the stamp and hinge can be reattached to your album with no difficulty.
The question is, should you, either using spit or the q-tip method reuse the hinge as it is?"


Definitive Answer: Yes. Or perhaps not.

"Is that sanitary to re-spit the hinge?"

Definitive Answer: No. Or, maybe, yes. Life is risky. Take a chance! Or don't. If you do, please name me in your will as the beneficiary of your stamp collection.

Suppose the salts and acids in you spittle re-activate some long dormant virus. Modern science suspects strongly that certain viral strains can survive eons of time in the vacuum and cold of space while attached to a meteor and can be revived, bringing a transfer of "life" to the Earth. Could the same happen to the collector who inadvertently brings "life" back to an ancient form of Ebola?"

Definitive Answer: Maybe.

"If the very worst happens and life on this planet is threatened will I be able to blame the pandemic on the migrants who strolled across the Rio Grande in the summer?"

Definitive Answer: Of course! Republicans and some Democrats engage in this same kind of illogic all the time! If it's good enough for them, surely it is good enough for you! After all, they are our leaders, and we should always trust our leaders. Well, maybe not always. Actually, maybe not ever!

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23 Oct 2014
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I tried to remove the hinge from the stamp before it had dried sufficiently therefore creating nice thins on the used stamps I was trying to mount in my used album. I know better now.

I want to hinge my used stamps because mounts aren't needed for these stamps.

But, I'm beginning to think that mounts are a lot easier to use than hinges. Either that, or I'm completely uncoordinated with any brain to hand activity. Winking

I'll have to try the Bobby spit method. Winking

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23 Oct 2014
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i have thought about the possibility of a germ being on a stamp hinge for 50 years,then if its a DENNISON hinge i promptly relick it and add it to my collection. Remember when it comes to spit... use it sparingly !

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23 Oct 2014
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Old hinges that are re-used tend to curl and attach themselves to the back of the stamp, causing the front flap and the bottom part of the hinge to be attached to the stamp. Too risky, plus hinges don't cost that much to be a 3/100th of a cent pincher.

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i could not believe it when a couple of people said they cut hinges in two...now thats being CHEEP !

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23 Oct 2014
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1. Reuse hinges? Yes! Especially if the old hinges peel nicely. I even have a small container of used hinges just waiting for the right stamp to come along.

2. How to mount? Stamp first, then into the album. Place the hinge near the top of the stamp, but at least 1/16" below the perforations.

3. Moisture control? Very important as others have noted. My unorthodox method: After lightly licking the hinge, I drag the just-moistened part of the hinge over the back of my left index finger (I'm right handed). This takes off any excess spittle, although it does leave some gummy residue on my finger. After applying the hinge to the stamp, I repeat the procedure for the large part of the hinge.

4. Use of tongs? Yes, absolutely. Use the tongs to hold the hinge while affixing the hinge to the stamp. Then use the tongs to hold the hinged stamp while placing the stamp in the album. Helps tremendously with placement.

5. Step-by-step? Sure why not:
(0) Wash and dry hands (usually only once per evening is sufficient).
(1) Place stamp face down, top angled away from you.
(2) Pick up hinge with tongs, grabbing the longer side.
(3) Lightly moisten the small tab on the hinge.
(4) Wipe the just-moistened part of the hinge over the back of your finger.
(5) Place the just-moistened tab evenly on the back of the stamp, near the top.
(6) Lightly press the hinge with the flat part of the tongs or some other flat, non-sharp surface to smooth it out if needed.
(7) Pick up the hinged stamp with the tongs.
(8) Lightly moisten the large tab on the hinge.
(9) Wipe the just-moistened part of the hinge over the back of your finger.
(10) Hold the stamp face up and place it on the album page.
(10a) If the hinge curls, you can grip the stamp and hinge together with the tongs to keep it flat while mounting.
(11) Gently press the stamp to get it to mount evenly or smooth out, if needed.

Best of luck!
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I also use a Qtip. Call me paranoid, but I never put stuff in my mouth that I wont eat. I always imagine things on things! Like I don't lick an envelope to close it, and when stamps were WAG's I always used a moistened sponge. So with the hinges, I use the Qtip method. It works well for me and just a little bit of very controlled moisture is used.

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23 Oct 2014
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I'd add:

(0a) If you take a break to have a snack or do anything that might transfer oils or dirt to your hands, wash them again before you go back to your stamps.

(0b) Keep your work area free of food and beverages and anything else that has the potential for damaging a stamp. Accidents, curious small children, and playful pets happen. Minimize the risk. I realize this might offend some, but I'd also exclude smoking materials. Besides the reek of stale smoke on the stamps and pages, I've seen a number of collections for sale over the years with tobacco ash scattered among the pages. No, I didn't buy them.

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"i could not believe it when a couple of people said they cut hinges in two...now thats being CHEEP !"



At around $15.00 per thousand for original Fold-o-Hinges or Dennison's, yep I cut em in half.

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23 Oct 2014
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"but I never put stuff in my mouth that I wont eat."



Oh, I don't know. I think hinges are good. They taste like chicken.
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Whilst we are lickin' an stickin' hinges.....does it matter the age of the hinge? I mean, will the age of the hinge affect the stamp? And would that be with or without the BBQ sauce and sweet tea? Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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all this worry and angst just reinforces me in my resolve to continue to use Scotch tape when the Elmer's glue runs out.

as to migrants, which was discussed about 45 posts ago, I do not worry about the Rio Grande. Those folk bring me my fruits and vegetables. No, I worry, as, apparently the INS and border patrol do, about the St Lawrence Seaway. Hell, those people are socialists, and they make it difficult to get to Alaska. Worse, do you have any idea how many roles might have gone to Americans if Richard Dreyfus hadn't stolen them. Those are good-paying roles, not apple-picking wages. We can't get the barbed wire up fast enough. We've done a good job quaranteeing the mail, giving it the required 21 day isolation period.

i suppose this is an unhinged response, but what do you expect when you bring up this political/economic hot spot. Besides, if Canada really were a good place, Rush Limbaugh would live there and get his illicit drugs legally.

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OMG David - I am almost literally ROTFL - rolling on the floor laughing!!!

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24 Oct 2014
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Hobby Lobby sells Supersafe hinges $3.95 for 1,000 good hinges.

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24 Oct 2014
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I just copied this response from Michael from another post.

Just an FYI that Hobby Lobby does sell some philatelic items. While their selection is rather slim, they do have plastic stock pages (Safe brand, I think), some Showgard mounts, Supersafe hinges, a few stock books, albums, and a few other assorted items including stamp packets.

If you subscribe to the Hobby Lobby email newsletter, they usually include a 40% off one item coupon. You can print it out, take it to Hobby Lobby and get 40% off the regular price of one item. One coupon per visit per day is the norm. There are three stores a short distance from me. I print out three coupons and visit all three stores. Good savings on a regular basis. Today, for example, I saved about $30 on model railroad-related items. It's definitely worth it.

I hope he doesn't mind me adding this to this post/question.Thinking

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No problemo.

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Would someone check and make sure David is taking his medication? I'm worried!Worried

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Bobby, How can i tell if hes off or on the meds ?Happy

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Considering the fact that both David and Bobby are certifiable, I'm starting to get concerned when Bobby asks that question! Silly

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" ... Bobby, How can i tell if he's off or on the meds ? ..."

That is like wondering if your bagpipes are in tune.

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"Bobby, How can i tell if hes off or on the meds ?"

This very long thread with not one pun revolving around "hinge"? David is either off his game or off his meds!

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"both David and Bobby are certifiable"



But do they have their certificates like I do? Maybe we should start a certifiable list of the members here. Of course I have #1. Or, do you think I'm too meddlesome in this and need meditation before putting on the medal and taking a trip to the Mediterranean? Is there a medic in the house?
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I would like to know when you guys are going to start sharing the drugs! They obviously are very good ones....like the ones you get from Canada!

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You need a medical slip for medicinal purposes before we can share any meds.

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Don't need a medical slip if you raid the right settlements! Laughing

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Guess I must be living in a different world, don't recognise any of the pictures, strange place Manitoba, world news passes us by. Then again, John Wayne was about the only actor I could name.
Always used SG hinges for my stamps with good old spittle.

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Thanks for all the advice with hinging stamps. I've learned more about Canada actors and actresses, and know that 1/2 of SOR is medicated. Silly. I'm still trying to figure out whether to use old fashioned spittle that I stored in the fridge over the years or if I can use current spit. Laughing.

Well, I'll laugh at the responses and thank everyone for their advice.

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Who needs Hollywood ? Great Indies and foreign flics on Netflix ..8 bucks a month..can not remember last time i went to a movie theater. Movie theaters were palaces when i was a kid..now they are ticky tacky !!!

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Only half of us medicate ? And all my life i thought escaping reality was what it was all about !Party

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Netflix is great, but I use Amazon Prime which has most of the same movies available.

And, Phil, you failed to answer my question on whether I should used my stored old-fashioned spittle or my current "fresh" spittle for my hinges? Rolling On The Floor Laughing

I'm learning a lot about a lot of subjects I had no idea belonged in the science of philately. Winking

Thanks to everyone for broadening my horizons and helping me get out of my shell. Laughing

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i ferget sometimes !!Angry

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Back to use of hinges:

In my opinion, a correctly mounted stamp should be inspectable on the back side without removing it from the page.

This means that I moisten only the bottom 1/4 of the long side before fastening it to the album page and fasten the stamp with the short side of the hinge near the top of the stamp.

I must admit that I wet my fingertip with my tongue and then moisten the hinge, have not tried the Q-tip method....

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Just an advice about reusing hinges spitted by others.
The real problem is that hinges are so expensive htat one should spare on them...Rolling On The Floor Laughing

But if you can afford a new hinge for those stamps, just soak them and then palce them in your album with a brand new personally-spitted- hinge.Smug

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19 Nov 2014
03:56:36pm

re: Using Hinges?

Hi Everyone;

Re-using hinges, arrgh! what a great way to contract Hepatitis C.

If anyone is so cheap as to consider re-using hinges, go look for a new hobby, coupon clipping, match book covers, or old pop bottle caps.

Lick em & stick em
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19 Nov 2014
04:40:20pm

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Wasn't there a big scare at the turn of the century about getting Typhoid from the mail? I'll have to google that. Hep C too? Ewww. Should we put our mail in the microwave to kill the bacteria? (just joking!)

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Suzanne
19 Nov 2014
05:20:43pm

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"Should we put our mail in the microwave to kill the bacteria?"




Just hope you don't get a nice big box of chocolates in the mail. Ick!
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19 Nov 2014
05:53:51pm

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OMG microwaving good chocolates? Isn't that some sort of blasphemy? Laughing

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Steve
19 Nov 2014
09:48:30pm

re: Using Hinges?

Okay, now I'm curious. Does anyone know if there is a health risk to using old hinges? I suppose there is a health risk to everything we do, but I mean to the point where we should discourage re-use of hinges? I'm willing to change my habits!

I don't re-use hinges to save cost, by the way. I re-use hinges for three reasons:

1. Saves time to peel the stamp with hinge out of an unwanted album and place it in my album.

2. Some old hinges peel nicely and if/when it comes time to remove the stamps in the future, they will come out easier.

3. With one less hinge swap, there is less damage to the back of the stamp.

Of course, re-use assumes that the old hinge is still in good shape and peelable. That is only about 1 in 3 on a good day.

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Suzanne
20 Nov 2014
11:09:58am

re: Using Hinges?

I don't know if there would be a health risk, but why take the chance. Just don't lick it. Which I'm sure you don't anyhow. So if you just moisten the hinge by dipping your finger into a bit of water to apply to the hinge, there probably isn't any more risk to re-use the hinge as there is to touch it to remove it.

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