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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Japanese 1937 Issue

 

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20 Apr 2015
09:54:48pm
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I refer to Scott Catalog for the following:

I checked these and as near as I can tell they do not have the zig-zag watermark (WM 141), but rather they seem to have the Curved Wavy Lines Watermark (WM 257). The thing that puzzles me is the postmark.

One is clearly 1931 and thew other is 1904 (I assume the year goes last which is clear from the 1931 postmark). Of course I realize that this makes no sense since in either case the issue date was 1937. Can anyone help clear this up?

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20 Apr 2015
10:03:18pm
re: Japanese 1937 Issue

On Japanese postmarks, the year date is based on the year reign of the emperor, not the year AD.

You can google the information to convert from the year reign to year AD.

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20 Apr 2015
10:10:12pm
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Then this means of course the first number in the sequence is the year.

So 12.8.31 must mean December 8 1937.

Thanks for the help!

Adam

(I got this from: http://www.sljfaq.org/cgi/date.cgi?year=1937)

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20 Apr 2015
10:10:37pm
re: Japanese 1937 Issue

Here's an ugly table, not sure if it will format correctly:

Japanese/Eng...Began...Add
平成/Heisei.......1989....1988
昭和/Shōwa......1926....1925
大正/Taishō......1912....1911
明治/Meiji.........1868....1867

(EDIT: thanks for the suggestion of changing the tabs to dots, cdj1122)

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20 Apr 2015
10:17:24pm
re: Japanese 1937 Issue

Actually, 12.8.31 is 31Aug1937. On Japanese postmarks, the numerical convention is YY.MM.DD

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20 Apr 2015
10:55:59pm
re: Japanese 1937 Issue

Oops, you're right! Thanks!

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20 Apr 2015
11:10:20pm
re: Japanese 1937 Issue

Unless the cancel is in English, in which case the Western date format is used dd.mm.yy

Here is a 1911 postcard that shows both types of cancels:

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20 Apr 2015
11:43:15pm
re: Japanese 1937 Issue

Roy is correct, I should have been more specific that I was referring to the Japanese language postmarks shown by Adam.

Thanks for pointing that out and providing the example, Roy!

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20 Apr 2015
09:54:48pm

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I refer to Scott Catalog for the following:

I checked these and as near as I can tell they do not have the zig-zag watermark (WM 141), but rather they seem to have the Curved Wavy Lines Watermark (WM 257). The thing that puzzles me is the postmark.

One is clearly 1931 and thew other is 1904 (I assume the year goes last which is clear from the 1931 postmark). Of course I realize that this makes no sense since in either case the issue date was 1937. Can anyone help clear this up?

Puzzled,

Adam


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20 Apr 2015
10:03:18pm

re: Japanese 1937 Issue

On Japanese postmarks, the year date is based on the year reign of the emperor, not the year AD.

You can google the information to convert from the year reign to year AD.

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20 Apr 2015
10:10:12pm

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Then this means of course the first number in the sequence is the year.

So 12.8.31 must mean December 8 1937.

Thanks for the help!

Adam

(I got this from: http://www.sljfaq.org/cgi/date.cgi?year=1937)

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20 Apr 2015
10:10:37pm

re: Japanese 1937 Issue

Here's an ugly table, not sure if it will format correctly:

Japanese/Eng...Began...Add
平成/Heisei.......1989....1988
昭和/Shōwa......1926....1925
大正/Taishō......1912....1911
明治/Meiji.........1868....1867

(EDIT: thanks for the suggestion of changing the tabs to dots, cdj1122)

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20 Apr 2015
10:17:24pm

re: Japanese 1937 Issue

Actually, 12.8.31 is 31Aug1937. On Japanese postmarks, the numerical convention is YY.MM.DD

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20 Apr 2015
10:55:59pm

re: Japanese 1937 Issue

Oops, you're right! Thanks!

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20 Apr 2015
11:10:20pm

re: Japanese 1937 Issue

Unless the cancel is in English, in which case the Western date format is used dd.mm.yy

Here is a 1911 postcard that shows both types of cancels:

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Roy

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20 Apr 2015
11:43:15pm

re: Japanese 1937 Issue

Roy is correct, I should have been more specific that I was referring to the Japanese language postmarks shown by Adam.

Thanks for pointing that out and providing the example, Roy!

Thumbs Up k

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