Those appear to have been cut/trimmed? Check out the section on France Telephone Stamps (below the section on France Telegraph Stamps): France Telephone Stamps
Interesting Thankyou
They are trimmed, but the highest denomination I see in my Yvert is 3f. I saw an ebay listing for Yv 3-11 and they called it a complete set. There is no 60,6f or 19f in the set
For what it is worth
An 1896 Brunel catalog notes only a 25c, 50c, 1fr, 3fr, in an 1885 & 1888 issue with a ministerial name change and an additional 1891 30c for "nightime calls"
Followed by a series of overprints.
There is no mention of any additional proofs.
"La première émission 1885 porte les mots : Ministere des postes et des
télégraphes.
25 centimes bleu sur fond chamois.
50 centimes carmin — rose.
1 franc carmin — azuré.
3 franc — noir — vert.
En 1888, le ministère des postes étant supprimé, les émissions
portent simplement : Postes et télégraphes.
Les valeurs sont les memes.
En 1891, on crée une valeur de 30 centimes, noir sur lilas,
pour le service téléphonique de nuit."
These are more likely mostly cut-outs from pneumatic post cards:
There are many different rates and varieties. Higgins and Gage lists the 6fr red-orange and 19fr red orange as part of the 1944-47 set (#s 45-46).
Roy
Thanks Roy! I kind of thought they were H&G listed
Greg
Excellent examples, Roy!
k
Greg they are listed in H&G as either Pneumatic Post and also under the section on local pmeumatic. The 6F red is H&G #45. The others are local Pneumatic post. Without the rest of the card they would take longer to ID
Greg after looking in H&G the first three could be cuts from telegraph stamps as well as local Pnuematic cards.
In Paris operated a pneumatic telegraph system, similar to what department stores used to have for obtaining receipts for customers.
Cards with messages were sent by this pneumatic telegraph system all over Paris.
I have a booklet describing it, and a collection of these cards and cut-out stamps like yours. Other cities that operated these, I believe were Brussels, Munich and Berlin.
For a sideline you could look up the Dreyfus Case and how one of these cards proved his innocence.
There is a booklet regarding these.
The pneumatic network in Paris was quite remarkable, and lasted into the 1980s..1984 to be exact. I remember using it in the 1960s. A stamp was issued in 1966 to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the Parisian Pneumatic system.
Here are some links of interest:
http://www.cix.co.uk/
mhayhurst/jdhayhurst/pneumatic/book.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumatic_tube
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I'm hoping someone has a thought on these. I am pretty sure that the 30 & 50 are cut French Telephone stamps but what are the others? I am guessing maybe telephone cut squares but a search on the internet does not find such a thing. I don't have a Higgins & Gage catalog to check out. I seriously doubt I have anything rare, just wondering what they are. Thanks
Greg
re: French Telephone Stamps
Those appear to have been cut/trimmed? Check out the section on France Telephone Stamps (below the section on France Telegraph Stamps): France Telephone Stamps
re: French Telephone Stamps
They are trimmed, but the highest denomination I see in my Yvert is 3f. I saw an ebay listing for Yv 3-11 and they called it a complete set. There is no 60,6f or 19f in the set
re: French Telephone Stamps
For what it is worth
An 1896 Brunel catalog notes only a 25c, 50c, 1fr, 3fr, in an 1885 & 1888 issue with a ministerial name change and an additional 1891 30c for "nightime calls"
Followed by a series of overprints.
There is no mention of any additional proofs.
"La première émission 1885 porte les mots : Ministere des postes et des
télégraphes.
25 centimes bleu sur fond chamois.
50 centimes carmin — rose.
1 franc carmin — azuré.
3 franc — noir — vert.
En 1888, le ministère des postes étant supprimé, les émissions
portent simplement : Postes et télégraphes.
Les valeurs sont les memes.
En 1891, on crée une valeur de 30 centimes, noir sur lilas,
pour le service téléphonique de nuit."
re: French Telephone Stamps
These are more likely mostly cut-outs from pneumatic post cards:
There are many different rates and varieties. Higgins and Gage lists the 6fr red-orange and 19fr red orange as part of the 1944-47 set (#s 45-46).
Roy
re: French Telephone Stamps
Thanks Roy! I kind of thought they were H&G listed
Greg
re: French Telephone Stamps
Excellent examples, Roy!
k
re: French Telephone Stamps
Greg they are listed in H&G as either Pneumatic Post and also under the section on local pmeumatic. The 6F red is H&G #45. The others are local Pneumatic post. Without the rest of the card they would take longer to ID
re: French Telephone Stamps
Greg after looking in H&G the first three could be cuts from telegraph stamps as well as local Pnuematic cards.
re: French Telephone Stamps
In Paris operated a pneumatic telegraph system, similar to what department stores used to have for obtaining receipts for customers.
Cards with messages were sent by this pneumatic telegraph system all over Paris.
I have a booklet describing it, and a collection of these cards and cut-out stamps like yours. Other cities that operated these, I believe were Brussels, Munich and Berlin.
For a sideline you could look up the Dreyfus Case and how one of these cards proved his innocence.
re: French Telephone Stamps
There is a booklet regarding these.
re: French Telephone Stamps
The pneumatic network in Paris was quite remarkable, and lasted into the 1980s..1984 to be exact. I remember using it in the 1960s. A stamp was issued in 1966 to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the Parisian Pneumatic system.
Here are some links of interest:
http://www.cix.co.uk/
mhayhurst/jdhayhurst/pneumatic/book.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumatic_tube
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