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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Private Army Cinderella?

 

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seanpashby
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17 Aug 2015
04:50:15pm
Has anyone seen this before?

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17 Aug 2015
05:11:59pm
re: Private Army Cinderella?

No. Interesting!

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17 Aug 2015
05:24:15pm
re: Private Army Cinderella?

That's what I thought. It belongs to a friend in another group. I am a fellow Hospital Corpsman (Marine side) BTW.

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mrmac

17 Aug 2015
05:54:44pm
re: Private Army Cinderella?

I believe that these are called "photo-stamps" and were popular at the end of the 19th century up until around WW I.

People went to a photographer, had their picture taken and multiple stamp size photos printed on a single sheet of perforated paper (or perhaps the paper was perforated afterwards)Sometimes views of cities and towns were printed in a similar manner and attached to post cards etc.

The example you show dates from 1913 and perhaps the photographer specialized in phots of military personal.

I have several examples in my collection from Canada and the USA some attached to business cards or at the top of letters and even on the outer cover.

They aren't common but few collect them.


The Cinderella Stamp Club journal had an article on them years ago. The APS might have a copy.

Enjoy
Rob

PS Modern photo stamps have the approval of post offices, the early ones did not.


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17 Aug 2015
06:43:40pm
re: Private Army Cinderella?

1913 or 1943? Methinks it is the latter.

Still, an awesome stamp! Thanks for sharing!

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mrmac

17 Aug 2015
07:18:34pm
re: Private Army Cinderella?

Sorry, I misread the date it is 1943. My initial comment holds true. These were private photo-stamps or perhaps stamp photo is a better term. They were produced by photographers and photo printers for private use. The one in the picture may have been sent home to a mother, sister, girl-friend as an enclosure or on the envelope. Any gum left on the back?
Rob


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17 Aug 2015
07:23:40pm
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"It has thick unused cracked gum on the back, very similar to the "rubber" gum of the Italian States stamps. There are black threads throughout when viewed under the microscope."

As per her description.

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malcolm197

18 Aug 2015
01:25:26pm
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I think these are fantastic. I have never seen them before - nor have I seen anything similar from the UK. They are a great wartime keepsake. Of course with the rationing etc prevalent in the UK at the time there probably would have been neither the photographers or the paper for such frivolities.

Malcolm

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18 Aug 2015
01:27:41pm
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Agreed! Everytime I see one, and it is not very often, I'm always impressed. Quite a great keepsake!

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Debbie

27 Aug 2015
11:27:03am
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Thanks, a friend posted my photo here and I am just now seeing the responses. I found this in the back of one of my albums and thought it was very unique. I wish it were more traceable perhaps to a family member. But I realize that is near impossible.

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27 Aug 2015
11:34:54am
re: Private Army Cinderella?

Not really, Debbie. Explore Ancestry.com. They provide many free tools for tracking your family. Also try web searches for your family name. You might be surprised at how much information is at your fingertips. I have traced part of my family back as far as the late 1600s just using the free resources found on the internet.

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27 Aug 2015
12:05:15pm
re: Private Army Cinderella?

Just a note to mention that Ancestry.com is far from free! It's quite expensive, really; I expect that their charges reflect the huge costs involved in developing and maintaining their extensive database.

I'd be interested in learning about any free and worthwhile web sites of a similar nature; I know that some governments provide death records and census data without charge.

Bob


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27 Aug 2015
01:49:13pm
re: Private Army Cinderella?

I said there are free tools available, and there are. I do not pay for their services, yet I located and obtained information on many of my forebears . Stamp collectors are smart, resourceful people, and they can figure out how to use the internet to find out things without paying fees, just have to do a little work and use that thing between your ears (and Google). Big Grin

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27 Aug 2015
03:19:56pm
re: Private Army Cinderella?

Bob,

Try the following top 10 free genealogy websites:

Family Search, www.familysearch.org
Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com
World GenWeb Project, www.worldgenweb.org
National Archives, www.nationalarchives.gov
Genealogy Today, www.genealogytoday.com
Google, www.google.com
Access Genealogy, www.accessgenealogy.com
Family Tree Searcher, www.familytsreesearcher.com
GeneaBios, www.genabios.com

Good luck in your searches,

Mel


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28 Aug 2015
08:50:18pm
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But be careful to have some time to expend as once you get sucked into wondering who your great-grandfather married, where he lived or is buried, you can be up til the sun rises and even lose an entire weekend.

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28 Aug 2015
09:03:25pm
re: Private Army Cinderella?

Charlie is on the money! I avoid going down that path unless I am able to set aside at least 2 hours, and then end up doubling or tripling that a hefty percentage of the time.

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29 Aug 2015
07:57:43pm
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@Bobby: I really appreciate your acknowledgement that I actually have something between my ears! Sometime I wonder.... My wife is absolutely certain that there's nothing there! D'Oh

@mbo1142: Thanks for that list. I'll give them a try, but based on previous experience it will be exhausting! Sometimes I'm not sure if God invented the internet, or the Devil.

@cdj1122: Thanks to my wife's willing searches into our families' histories, we've uncovered some delicious skeletons:

• No one will ever know who my maternal grandmother's biological father was, or who was lying to whom.

• One of my relatives by marriage was the first witch hanged at Salem, which explains my sister.

• One of my direct ancestors was on the jury that convicted her.

• The Scandinavian surname Hansen makes it literally impossible to trace family origins past last week. Well, maybe last month. Big Grin

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malcolm197

31 Aug 2015
06:37:43am
re: Private Army Cinderella?

Those doing family research in the UK may like to know that some public libraries have subscriptions to pay genealogy sites which allow free ( or pay per session) access.

Malcolm

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17 Aug 2015
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17 Aug 2015
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No. Interesting!

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17 Aug 2015
05:24:15pm

re: Private Army Cinderella?

That's what I thought. It belongs to a friend in another group. I am a fellow Hospital Corpsman (Marine side) BTW.

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mrmac

17 Aug 2015
05:54:44pm

re: Private Army Cinderella?

I believe that these are called "photo-stamps" and were popular at the end of the 19th century up until around WW I.

People went to a photographer, had their picture taken and multiple stamp size photos printed on a single sheet of perforated paper (or perhaps the paper was perforated afterwards)Sometimes views of cities and towns were printed in a similar manner and attached to post cards etc.

The example you show dates from 1913 and perhaps the photographer specialized in phots of military personal.

I have several examples in my collection from Canada and the USA some attached to business cards or at the top of letters and even on the outer cover.

They aren't common but few collect them.


The Cinderella Stamp Club journal had an article on them years ago. The APS might have a copy.

Enjoy
Rob

PS Modern photo stamps have the approval of post offices, the early ones did not.


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17 Aug 2015
06:43:40pm

re: Private Army Cinderella?

1913 or 1943? Methinks it is the latter.

Still, an awesome stamp! Thanks for sharing!

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mrmac

17 Aug 2015
07:18:34pm

re: Private Army Cinderella?

Sorry, I misread the date it is 1943. My initial comment holds true. These were private photo-stamps or perhaps stamp photo is a better term. They were produced by photographers and photo printers for private use. The one in the picture may have been sent home to a mother, sister, girl-friend as an enclosure or on the envelope. Any gum left on the back?
Rob


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17 Aug 2015
07:23:40pm

re: Private Army Cinderella?

"It has thick unused cracked gum on the back, very similar to the "rubber" gum of the Italian States stamps. There are black threads throughout when viewed under the microscope."

As per her description.

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malcolm197

18 Aug 2015
01:25:26pm

re: Private Army Cinderella?

I think these are fantastic. I have never seen them before - nor have I seen anything similar from the UK. They are a great wartime keepsake. Of course with the rationing etc prevalent in the UK at the time there probably would have been neither the photographers or the paper for such frivolities.

Malcolm

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khj

18 Aug 2015
01:27:41pm

re: Private Army Cinderella?

Agreed! Everytime I see one, and it is not very often, I'm always impressed. Quite a great keepsake!

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Debbie

27 Aug 2015
11:27:03am

re: Private Army Cinderella?

Thanks, a friend posted my photo here and I am just now seeing the responses. I found this in the back of one of my albums and thought it was very unique. I wish it were more traceable perhaps to a family member. But I realize that is near impossible.

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They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
27 Aug 2015
11:34:54am

re: Private Army Cinderella?

Not really, Debbie. Explore Ancestry.com. They provide many free tools for tracking your family. Also try web searches for your family name. You might be surprised at how much information is at your fingertips. I have traced part of my family back as far as the late 1600s just using the free resources found on the internet.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. -Edmund Burke"

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Bobstamp

27 Aug 2015
12:05:15pm

re: Private Army Cinderella?

Just a note to mention that Ancestry.com is far from free! It's quite expensive, really; I expect that their charges reflect the huge costs involved in developing and maintaining their extensive database.

I'd be interested in learning about any free and worthwhile web sites of a similar nature; I know that some governments provide death records and census data without charge.

Bob


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They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
27 Aug 2015
01:49:13pm

re: Private Army Cinderella?

I said there are free tools available, and there are. I do not pay for their services, yet I located and obtained information on many of my forebears . Stamp collectors are smart, resourceful people, and they can figure out how to use the internet to find out things without paying fees, just have to do a little work and use that thing between your ears (and Google). Big Grin

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I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
27 Aug 2015
03:19:56pm

re: Private Army Cinderella?

Bob,

Try the following top 10 free genealogy websites:

Family Search, www.familysearch.org
Find a Grave, www.findagrave.com
World GenWeb Project, www.worldgenweb.org
National Archives, www.nationalarchives.gov
Genealogy Today, www.genealogytoday.com
Google, www.google.com
Access Genealogy, www.accessgenealogy.com
Family Tree Searcher, www.familytsreesearcher.com
GeneaBios, www.genabios.com

Good luck in your searches,

Mel


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28 Aug 2015
08:50:18pm

re: Private Army Cinderella?

But be careful to have some time to expend as once you get sucked into wondering who your great-grandfather married, where he lived or is buried, you can be up til the sun rises and even lose an entire weekend.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "

They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
28 Aug 2015
09:03:25pm

re: Private Army Cinderella?

Charlie is on the money! I avoid going down that path unless I am able to set aside at least 2 hours, and then end up doubling or tripling that a hefty percentage of the time.

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Bobstamp

29 Aug 2015
07:57:43pm

re: Private Army Cinderella?

@Bobby: I really appreciate your acknowledgement that I actually have something between my ears! Sometime I wonder.... My wife is absolutely certain that there's nothing there! D'Oh

@mbo1142: Thanks for that list. I'll give them a try, but based on previous experience it will be exhausting! Sometimes I'm not sure if God invented the internet, or the Devil.

@cdj1122: Thanks to my wife's willing searches into our families' histories, we've uncovered some delicious skeletons:

• No one will ever know who my maternal grandmother's biological father was, or who was lying to whom.

• One of my relatives by marriage was the first witch hanged at Salem, which explains my sister.

• One of my direct ancestors was on the jury that convicted her.

• The Scandinavian surname Hansen makes it literally impossible to trace family origins past last week. Well, maybe last month. Big Grin

Bob




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malcolm197

31 Aug 2015
06:37:43am

re: Private Army Cinderella?

Those doing family research in the UK may like to know that some public libraries have subscriptions to pay genealogy sites which allow free ( or pay per session) access.

Malcolm

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