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BasSWarwick
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12 Oct 2015
07:11:52pm
Can anyone please help to identify this CHINA pack. Zhad Imperial Tomb - horse stamps, some stamps are simulating a form of ancient silver embossing.

It may be a limited edition - a loose label has '10'and the date 10 April 2002

Does it have any value?

TIA


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12 Oct 2015
07:34:39pm
re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

Hi Andrew,
I can't really be of help, but thanks for posting the pics. That is quite an interesting set that you have there.

Regards ... Tim.

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12 Oct 2015
07:56:54pm
re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

I can find no reference to this book at all. Incidentally, I think it is the ZHAO Imperial Tomb and not ZHAD.

I have seen a number of similar publications but differing on subject. I would imagine that although the stamp content (and 'silver' reproductions) have little value, the book itself is probably a very high quality work and beautifully bound.

I would certainly find shelf space for this if I owned it.

Perhaps auction is really the only place to find its real value.

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samliu

12 Oct 2015
08:30:15pm
re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

This is typical modern commercial product. There is some value if you like the content and presentation, but there is no collectible value in my opinion.
I see one website listed as $50, nobody buys it.

Sam

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BasSWarwick
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13 Oct 2015
12:34:10am
re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

Thanks everyone for your replies.

Appreciate your info samlieu. Like Ningpo I was unable to find any information or value on Google.

This set came to me in a miscellaneous box of philately paraphernalia purchased at a very modest price, so as this is not my field of interest, would there be any value in breaking the set and selling sheets off separately? Or alternatively I could start an auction off at $1 and let the market decide.

BTW - are the stamps usable in China for postage or are they cinderellas?




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13 Oct 2015
12:52:28am
re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

Actually, there is value in the stamps in that book, so don't write it off as postage.

Do you see those 2 miniature panes of 6 stamps? Those 2 panes are actually print varieties (background on white instead of fawn, as with the regular stamps shown in the partial pane of 24).

In the 2016 Scott catalog, those 2 miniature panes catalog for $16 each (italicized). There has been no change in that price since the last decade. But it's actually not an easy variety to find.

I've pretty much stayed out of collecting China since the speculation craze. I don't collect areas that are dominated by speculators. But I would suggest to you to hang on to those 2 miniature panes for another 1-2 years -- I think it's a "sleeper" issue that will get targeted eventually. If you decide to sell them now, at least make sure you ID them correctly if you list them, as they are NOT the common variety for that issue.

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13 Oct 2015
02:41:49am
re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

K

Thanks for that valuable info.
Sounds like I should hang on for the time being.

BTW. Do you know if the 24 maxi-sheet and cover have values shown in Scott catalogue?

The cover has a 2.80 stamp - amazingly the CTO is not over the stamp

I have just found some info here listed under
2001 Horse Relief Sculptures, Zhaoling Mausoleum
http://www.stampworld.com/en/stamps/China,-Peoples-Rep./Postage%20stamps/?year=2001

Mini sheets $US17.03
Strip of 6 $US2.84
Maxi sheet and cover - not mentioned.


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13 Oct 2015
11:16:09am
re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

The $2.80 stamp is actually part of the set of 7.

Scott does not have a value for the full pane of 24, nor on-cover price. As is currently, there will not really be a premium for the full pane, so just multiply the strip of six price by 4.

The 2016 Scott catalog prices (mint/used):
China #3145 (strip of 6) = $3.50/$3.00
China #3145f ($2.80 stamp) = $1.00/$0.90
China #3145g,h (sheets of 6 on white background) = $16.00/-- (each sheetlet)

Maybe I got you confused with someone else, but in a place far away, didn't you used to have the £1 Arms of Australia stamp as your avatar? Again, maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

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13 Oct 2015
05:08:31pm
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K

Many thanks once again.

I may have but I cant remember using the £1 Arms of Australia stamp as my avatar, - unless it was one of the site avatars available at the time. I have lived in Australia and sold off other forums under the same name BasSWarwick. Generally I use the NZ penny stamp with a flaw as an avatar.

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13 Oct 2015
06:01:35pm
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I have a couple similar on different topics. They are very nice.

I've tried to sell them on Ebay with no luck. Not sure what the magic number on them is.

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14 Oct 2015
12:31:23am
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Magic number is always $1 and then hope to get a frenzy going Nail Biting

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12 Oct 2015
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Can anyone please help to identify this CHINA pack. Zhad Imperial Tomb - horse stamps, some stamps are simulating a form of ancient silver embossing.

It may be a limited edition - a loose label has '10'and the date 10 April 2002

Does it have any value?

TIA


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12 Oct 2015
07:34:39pm

re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

Hi Andrew,
I can't really be of help, but thanks for posting the pics. That is quite an interesting set that you have there.

Regards ... Tim.

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12 Oct 2015
07:56:54pm

re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

I can find no reference to this book at all. Incidentally, I think it is the ZHAO Imperial Tomb and not ZHAD.

I have seen a number of similar publications but differing on subject. I would imagine that although the stamp content (and 'silver' reproductions) have little value, the book itself is probably a very high quality work and beautifully bound.

I would certainly find shelf space for this if I owned it.

Perhaps auction is really the only place to find its real value.

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samliu

12 Oct 2015
08:30:15pm

re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

This is typical modern commercial product. There is some value if you like the content and presentation, but there is no collectible value in my opinion.
I see one website listed as $50, nobody buys it.

Sam

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BasSWarwick

13 Oct 2015
12:34:10am

re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

Thanks everyone for your replies.

Appreciate your info samlieu. Like Ningpo I was unable to find any information or value on Google.

This set came to me in a miscellaneous box of philately paraphernalia purchased at a very modest price, so as this is not my field of interest, would there be any value in breaking the set and selling sheets off separately? Or alternatively I could start an auction off at $1 and let the market decide.

BTW - are the stamps usable in China for postage or are they cinderellas?




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khj

13 Oct 2015
12:52:28am

re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

Actually, there is value in the stamps in that book, so don't write it off as postage.

Do you see those 2 miniature panes of 6 stamps? Those 2 panes are actually print varieties (background on white instead of fawn, as with the regular stamps shown in the partial pane of 24).

In the 2016 Scott catalog, those 2 miniature panes catalog for $16 each (italicized). There has been no change in that price since the last decade. But it's actually not an easy variety to find.

I've pretty much stayed out of collecting China since the speculation craze. I don't collect areas that are dominated by speculators. But I would suggest to you to hang on to those 2 miniature panes for another 1-2 years -- I think it's a "sleeper" issue that will get targeted eventually. If you decide to sell them now, at least make sure you ID them correctly if you list them, as they are NOT the common variety for that issue.

k

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13 Oct 2015
02:41:49am

re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

K

Thanks for that valuable info.
Sounds like I should hang on for the time being.

BTW. Do you know if the 24 maxi-sheet and cover have values shown in Scott catalogue?

The cover has a 2.80 stamp - amazingly the CTO is not over the stamp

I have just found some info here listed under
2001 Horse Relief Sculptures, Zhaoling Mausoleum
http://www.stampworld.com/en/stamps/China,-Peoples-Rep./Postage%20stamps/?year=2001

Mini sheets $US17.03
Strip of 6 $US2.84
Maxi sheet and cover - not mentioned.


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13 Oct 2015
11:16:09am

re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

The $2.80 stamp is actually part of the set of 7.

Scott does not have a value for the full pane of 24, nor on-cover price. As is currently, there will not really be a premium for the full pane, so just multiply the strip of six price by 4.

The 2016 Scott catalog prices (mint/used):
China #3145 (strip of 6) = $3.50/$3.00
China #3145f ($2.80 stamp) = $1.00/$0.90
China #3145g,h (sheets of 6 on white background) = $16.00/-- (each sheetlet)

Maybe I got you confused with someone else, but in a place far away, didn't you used to have the £1 Arms of Australia stamp as your avatar? Again, maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

k

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13 Oct 2015
05:08:31pm

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K

Many thanks once again.

I may have but I cant remember using the £1 Arms of Australia stamp as my avatar, - unless it was one of the site avatars available at the time. I have lived in Australia and sold off other forums under the same name BasSWarwick. Generally I use the NZ penny stamp with a flaw as an avatar.

BSW

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ClayMorgan

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13 Oct 2015
06:01:35pm

re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

I have a couple similar on different topics. They are very nice.

I've tried to sell them on Ebay with no luck. Not sure what the magic number on them is.

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14 Oct 2015
12:31:23am

re: Help with CHINA album/pack please

Magic number is always $1 and then hope to get a frenzy going Nail Biting

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