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As I've said on this board before, it's good to tell the non-philatelists in your life that you are a stamp collector. One of my model car friends came across this card and emailed for more information...
Can anyone ID the Peru stamp, and give any more interesting information to convey back to my friend? Any value to report?
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Perf 12 ?
25 x 30 mm ?
Perhaps:
Peru 'Personalities' 1898
Michel PE 99
Yvert et Tellier PE 107
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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The stamp is Scott number 142, low value of the 1896-1900 set. It features Manco Capac, founder of the Inca dynasty. It is quite common and catalogs for 30 cents. The full set can be seen below. Nice Art Nouveau cover to bad they wrote across the face of it.
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Thanks Mitch-
I just relayed it back to my buddy. Rather than focusing on value, I told him the card was cool because it was over 100 years old and represented an early form of communication. He's in Canada, and I'll be seeing him at our big annual show in April. Once he gets over not winning the lottery with this card, he'll probably give it to me. I get a lot of material from my model car friends, they are tuned to collectibles. I'm getting my vendor responses in the mail now and they run about 40% commemoratives on the envelopes. Especially the car related stamps!
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07:03:58pm
I suppose purists deltiologists might consider the writing as a fault, but not being one of that tribe I think the inscription makes it more attractive and interesting.
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"... I think the inscription makes it more attractive and interesting ..."
So why do you suppose we prefer our cards with a little mileage on them?
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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So would she have been someone famous or is this just a photo card that one might send to family or a sweetheart?
Ernie
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The writing on the card is a bit of a love note, Ernie.
"In response to your elegant postcard . . .
. . . (two words I can't make out) pale and dearly desired"
I believe he is referring to her skin which is pale and desired.
It might be judged racist by today's standards.
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Yeah, it's my understanding that there is a strict social hierarchy down there whereas people with more Spanish European blood (and lighter skin pigmentation) are a little higher up on the social food chain than darker, more indegenous peoples.
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She had a couple of children in 1912 and 1913 (listed under that name at
http://familia.evemor.com/research/collection-30017/peru-lima-civil-registration-1874-1996?s=256415311&action=query&individualId=1000001&rfr=tree&path=&formId=master&formMode=1&qname=Name+fn.Jemima+fnmo.2+fnmsvos.1+fnmsmi.1+ln.Balneavis%2FShera+lnmo.4+lnmsdm.1+lnmsmf3.1+lnmsrs.1+g.F&qkeywords=Keyword&rpp=20)
though whether she was a senorita by then, who can say?
I wonder if Guillermo Figari was in the wood trade back in 1905, as his (possible) descendants still are today? Does the card design give a clue?
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07:04:55am
"... So why do you suppose we prefer our cards with a little mileage on them? ...
Seriously ?
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""... So why do you suppose we prefer our cards with a little mileage on them? ...
Seriously ?"
I do collect postcards and I do prefer used cards. I believe they tell a story about people who lived in that era and are long gone. For instance I have a birthday card mailed to an aunt in 1908, that has the notation, "From Baby Marie". Aside from the stamp and postal markings you cannot help but wonder whatever became of Baby Marie.
Many thanks to those who gave some insights into this card for my friend. He replied that he liked the history and would keep it. Maybe I can reel him into collecting?!
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As I've said on this board before, it's good to tell the non-philatelists in your life that you are a stamp collector. One of my model car friends came across this card and emailed for more information...
Can anyone ID the Peru stamp, and give any more interesting information to convey back to my friend? Any value to report?
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re: Peru Card and Stamp
Perf 12 ?
25 x 30 mm ?
Perhaps:
Peru 'Personalities' 1898
Michel PE 99
Yvert et Tellier PE 107
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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re: Peru Card and Stamp
The stamp is Scott number 142, low value of the 1896-1900 set. It features Manco Capac, founder of the Inca dynasty. It is quite common and catalogs for 30 cents. The full set can be seen below. Nice Art Nouveau cover to bad they wrote across the face of it.
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re: Peru Card and Stamp
Thanks Mitch-
I just relayed it back to my buddy. Rather than focusing on value, I told him the card was cool because it was over 100 years old and represented an early form of communication. He's in Canada, and I'll be seeing him at our big annual show in April. Once he gets over not winning the lottery with this card, he'll probably give it to me. I get a lot of material from my model car friends, they are tuned to collectibles. I'm getting my vendor responses in the mail now and they run about 40% commemoratives on the envelopes. Especially the car related stamps!
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
04 Mar 2016
07:03:58pm
re: Peru Card and Stamp
I suppose purists deltiologists might consider the writing as a fault, but not being one of that tribe I think the inscription makes it more attractive and interesting.
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re: Peru Card and Stamp
"... I think the inscription makes it more attractive and interesting ..."
So why do you suppose we prefer our cards with a little mileage on them?
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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08:13:07pm
re: Peru Card and Stamp
So would she have been someone famous or is this just a photo card that one might send to family or a sweetheart?
Ernie
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re: Peru Card and Stamp
The writing on the card is a bit of a love note, Ernie.
"In response to your elegant postcard . . .
. . . (two words I can't make out) pale and dearly desired"
I believe he is referring to her skin which is pale and desired.
It might be judged racist by today's standards.
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04:28:33am
re: Peru Card and Stamp
Yeah, it's my understanding that there is a strict social hierarchy down there whereas people with more Spanish European blood (and lighter skin pigmentation) are a little higher up on the social food chain than darker, more indegenous peoples.
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re: Peru Card and Stamp
She had a couple of children in 1912 and 1913 (listed under that name at
http://familia.evemor.com/research/collection-30017/peru-lima-civil-registration-1874-1996?s=256415311&action=query&individualId=1000001&rfr=tree&path=&formId=master&formMode=1&qname=Name+fn.Jemima+fnmo.2+fnmsvos.1+fnmsmi.1+ln.Balneavis%2FShera+lnmo.4+lnmsdm.1+lnmsmf3.1+lnmsrs.1+g.F&qkeywords=Keyword&rpp=20)
though whether she was a senorita by then, who can say?
I wonder if Guillermo Figari was in the wood trade back in 1905, as his (possible) descendants still are today? Does the card design give a clue?
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
06 Mar 2016
07:04:55am
re: Peru Card and Stamp
"... So why do you suppose we prefer our cards with a little mileage on them? ...
Seriously ?
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re: Peru Card and Stamp
""... So why do you suppose we prefer our cards with a little mileage on them? ...
Seriously ?"
I do collect postcards and I do prefer used cards. I believe they tell a story about people who lived in that era and are long gone. For instance I have a birthday card mailed to an aunt in 1908, that has the notation, "From Baby Marie". Aside from the stamp and postal markings you cannot help but wonder whatever became of Baby Marie.
Many thanks to those who gave some insights into this card for my friend. He replied that he liked the history and would keep it. Maybe I can reel him into collecting?!
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