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Are you sure that is 1995 and not 1996? The 6 in the 1996 looks a lot like a 5 unless you look at it with a 30X loupe. So, I'm pretty sure that's a Scott #2921 dated 1996.
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When I look at it with the 30 loupe it looks like a 5. I had the same thought myself but the top of the 5 is straight across and the 6 is rounded.
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Here is a comparison chart;
Sorry its not a little clearer, but it appears there isn't one with those serpentine die cuts and a small red 1995 date.
This might be a job for the new microscope mentioned elsewhere on this site!!
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I saved the picture to my desktop and enlarged it. Looks like a 6 to me.
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I downloaded it and then enlarged it too and it looks like a 1995 to me, flat top and gap in right place for a 5
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I blew up the scan and drew the opposite conclusion especially after I looked at some other copies that I have. If the ink on the 9's are blurry, it can disguise the left side of the circular part of the 6. I'm still betting this is a 6 and not a 5.
Well I looked at it again and blew it up as far as I could, and now I'm not so sure! Dang! But without a better scan or the actual stamp in our hands it is all guess work.
Isn't this a hoot? Everyone sees a slightly different thing! Love it when folks post these mystery pics. We all get to flex our philatelic sleuth muscles. fun fun fun!!!
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We appreciate all of your attentions and efforts. I believe you are all right in that perhaps I need a better scan I guess I'll play with it a bit and see if I can do better.
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This is the best I could come up with.
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That DOES look like a 5! Hmmm interesting!
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To me...this stamp and the mystery stamp do not look similar. I mean to say the 6 is clear as can be on this. Again I am not the collector just the one who makes the scans. Thanks for forcing me to do a better job. I believe I may be learning something.
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Chris makes some good points with some excellent imagery to back it up.
Another good point not to be overlooked;
notice the "tail" on the suspect image versus the tail of the 5 on the 1995 image Chris provided - the 'tail' ending should stop abruptly before curving upward. It does NOT stop abruptly on the suspect stamp. the tails are completely different, strongly suggesting this is because its actually a 6 that wasn't completely inked properly/completely.
And again, they never printed this booklet stamp with both serpentine die cuts AND a red 1996 date.
I believe this mystery is solved - thanks Chris! 
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Well, If it were me I would send it off to be expertised. New varieties are always coming up.. Good Luck.........
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At the cost of expertising, you might want to be reasonably sure first, that what you have warrants the cost.
Just my opinion, for what its worth
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yeah, that makes sense, $20 or $30 dollar opinion over a $2.00 maximum value stamp!!!!!!
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If cost concerns dictated the passion for discovery, I would think we would still be in the stone age.. I'm in for $10, let me know where to send it. Plus if this is a real 1995, others should show up. And I don't think it would be a $2 stamp. If it is, answers are worth small extravagance.. I've bet on many a slow horse and a few bad sports teams.. Just my two cents or $10 in this case...
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You might want to invest in a usb magnifier, it should be able to help you see the numbers much clearer. There is a description of the magnifier in this thread. https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=13811#104167
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If I look at it with my specs on it looks like a 5 - with them off it looks like a shaky 6. I don't know if that proves anything other than my eyesight is pretty ropey !!
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Got my new microscope today and mystery exists no more. It is a 6. You can see why it looks like a five with the little bit of color missing. Thanks for all the help.
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I'm feeling the whiplash, folks ... 5,6,5,6,5,6,5,6 ... but I think that Chris nailed it with the underinking argument.
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"Got my new microscope today"
That's a pretty sharp picture, Chris. Is that with an economy model scope?
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It is the Plugable USB 2.0 Digital Microscope for Mac. Amazon to the rescue.
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excellent, Chris....
expertising money saved!
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Now to go to the NCAA....
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Hi! Thanks in advance for any help. This stamp is identical to # 2921 in every way except one: the date 1995. I can find no reference in my Scott 2013 Specialized. Booklet stamp that is die cut.
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Are you sure that is 1995 and not 1996? The 6 in the 1996 looks a lot like a 5 unless you look at it with a 30X loupe. So, I'm pretty sure that's a Scott #2921 dated 1996.
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When I look at it with the 30 loupe it looks like a 5. I had the same thought myself but the top of the 5 is straight across and the 6 is rounded.
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Here is a comparison chart;
Sorry its not a little clearer, but it appears there isn't one with those serpentine die cuts and a small red 1995 date.
This might be a job for the new microscope mentioned elsewhere on this site!!
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I saved the picture to my desktop and enlarged it. Looks like a 6 to me.
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I downloaded it and then enlarged it too and it looks like a 1995 to me, flat top and gap in right place for a 5
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I blew up the scan and drew the opposite conclusion especially after I looked at some other copies that I have. If the ink on the 9's are blurry, it can disguise the left side of the circular part of the 6. I'm still betting this is a 6 and not a 5.
Well I looked at it again and blew it up as far as I could, and now I'm not so sure! Dang! But without a better scan or the actual stamp in our hands it is all guess work.
Isn't this a hoot? Everyone sees a slightly different thing! Love it when folks post these mystery pics. We all get to flex our philatelic sleuth muscles. fun fun fun!!!
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We appreciate all of your attentions and efforts. I believe you are all right in that perhaps I need a better scan I guess I'll play with it a bit and see if I can do better.
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This is the best I could come up with.
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That DOES look like a 5! Hmmm interesting!
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To me...this stamp and the mystery stamp do not look similar. I mean to say the 6 is clear as can be on this. Again I am not the collector just the one who makes the scans. Thanks for forcing me to do a better job. I believe I may be learning something.
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re: Flag Over Porch mystery stamp (United States)
Chris makes some good points with some excellent imagery to back it up.
Another good point not to be overlooked;
notice the "tail" on the suspect image versus the tail of the 5 on the 1995 image Chris provided - the 'tail' ending should stop abruptly before curving upward. It does NOT stop abruptly on the suspect stamp. the tails are completely different, strongly suggesting this is because its actually a 6 that wasn't completely inked properly/completely.
And again, they never printed this booklet stamp with both serpentine die cuts AND a red 1996 date.
I believe this mystery is solved - thanks Chris!
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Well, If it were me I would send it off to be expertised. New varieties are always coming up.. Good Luck.........
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At the cost of expertising, you might want to be reasonably sure first, that what you have warrants the cost.
Just my opinion, for what its worth
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yeah, that makes sense, $20 or $30 dollar opinion over a $2.00 maximum value stamp!!!!!!
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If cost concerns dictated the passion for discovery, I would think we would still be in the stone age.. I'm in for $10, let me know where to send it. Plus if this is a real 1995, others should show up. And I don't think it would be a $2 stamp. If it is, answers are worth small extravagance.. I've bet on many a slow horse and a few bad sports teams.. Just my two cents or $10 in this case...
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re: Flag Over Porch mystery stamp (United States)
You might want to invest in a usb magnifier, it should be able to help you see the numbers much clearer. There is a description of the magnifier in this thread. https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=13811#104167
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If I look at it with my specs on it looks like a 5 - with them off it looks like a shaky 6. I don't know if that proves anything other than my eyesight is pretty ropey !!
Malcolm
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Got my new microscope today and mystery exists no more. It is a 6. You can see why it looks like a five with the little bit of color missing. Thanks for all the help.
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I'm feeling the whiplash, folks ... 5,6,5,6,5,6,5,6 ... but I think that Chris nailed it with the underinking argument.
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"Got my new microscope today"
That's a pretty sharp picture, Chris. Is that with an economy model scope?
Ted
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It is the Plugable USB 2.0 Digital Microscope for Mac. Amazon to the rescue.
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excellent, Chris....
expertising money saved!
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Now to go to the NCAA....
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