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Was looking around an antique mall when out of the corner a box caught my eye. It had three minkus master global album in it and he was only asking $50 (im still not very comfortable on deciding whether or not ive gotten a bargin but oh well) each so i snapped them up. Everything is hinged and its a mix of mint and canceled and everythings not in the best of conditions (yellowing, foxing?, eaten pages lol) but it had a lot of material i don't have so i figured id at least get some space fillers out of it. the albums contained mostly Latin America, northern europe, france +colonies, and some asia. Ill post some pictures and any tips/help with identification or leads on any which catch your eye would be appreciated!. Also does anyone have any experince with the best method on attempting to salvage, clean up, and take apart the material safely?
Mucho Gracias!!,
(these two are Fournier forgeries i think from what ive looked up)
I think the biggest problem is that now that i've seen these master global albums i kinda want to get my own to fill....0_o lol
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here are some from guatemala
i really like these air mail stamps
Im not sure about the prvious owners identifications because it looks like he was mixing issues. maybe by topic? lol 
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Three Master Global Albums full of stamps for $50, I'd say bought you $50 worth of fun.
If you want to assemble the Master Global album set, then take care with what you have now. Several of the years remain out of print. The Minkus albums were bought many years ago by Amos Media, the company that also owns Scott. The year sets are as pricey as the Scott International albums.
From what you have shown, I see about what I would expect to see as far as stamps and how they are mounted on the pages.
Taking the stamps off may need a little care. Sometimes, the collectors use "innovative" methods of hinging stamps to the pages. Paper hinges and even stamp sheet selvage are common in older albums. Such hinges can be soaked off the used stamps the same as if they were on paper. You may thin out or tear an album space here and there trying to remove a stamp. That just seems to go with the process. You won't see it when you put a stamp back in the space, however.
Just take it slow and easy, and you will be able to reassemble a nice collection.
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Hey Michael78651,
Thanks for the encouragement and advice! So far everthing seems to be attached with regular hindes and I definitely plan on some form of reassembly and I'm hoping a bath will clean some of them up a bit. .
A couple more questions on my mind
-- what to do with the mint hinged?
Remove or leave as a backing for when I re-hinge
-- should i be concerned about foxing, rusting,scaling,toning?
I've read that the high humidities of some countries is no bueno for stamps (also would it be weird to lightly dust my albums with a non-colored foot powder to a act as a dessicant and antifungal or is that overkill?)
--is there a list of stamp issues that should NOT be soaked?
--is there a size or # limit on picture posts?
I don't want to use up unnecessary space but I like the idea that others w more knowledge have the chance to look over the material and give a heads up to items I should take extra care with, spend some more time examining or sharing a special tidbit on historical reference.
Muchos gracias!
Robert
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Robert:
Were there any Costa Rica stamps in your album? I am a Costa Rica specialist.
David G.
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Hi David,
Haven't come across any pages of Costa Rica yet. Mexico, Uruguay, Paraguay, el Salvador, Panama, Venezuela, Guatemala, Honduras,Nicaragua, Haiti ,peru, Portugal colonies, but not Costa Rica yet. I'll def post any if I come across it in one of the other albums though!
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Robert, ask away. Don't worry about "taking up space". Remember that there may be others who are too shy to ask the same questions that you are. In any event, your questions may help someone else as well.
"what to do with the mint hinged? Remove or leave as a backing for when I re-hinge"
You want to be very careful when removing hinges. If the hinge is stuck tightly on the stamp, don't pull the hinge off. You will probably damage the stamp. Many will tear off the part that was attached to the album and leave the little flap on the stamp. The new hinge can be applied to the flap to eliminate multiple hinge marks on the stamp.
"-- should i be concerned about foxing, rusting,scaling,toning?"
Yes. These are all different things.
- Foxing is a fungus, and will spread to other stamps. Best to not put a stamp with fixing into your album. Sometimes a bath in clear, unscented ammonia will clean off the foxing. I put the stamp in a clear plastic container with a lid to keep the ammonia gas from leeching out too fast. I'll agitate the container now and then. The foxing will be eliminated or reduced, and the paper will be cleaned. When you don't see the fixing clearing up any more, remove the stamp from the ammonia, rinse it off and set aside to dry. Note that if you place an unused stamp in the ammonia, the gum will be removed.
- "Rusting" is not that at all. It is actually sulphurization. The orange, yellow, brown and red inks can become victims of air pollution (cigarette smoke, smog, etc.) and turn brown. A bath in water peroxide solution (3% or 5% is common off-the-shelf) will usually return the colors to their original hues. Note that if you place an unused stamp in the ammonia, the gum will be removed.
- "Toning" is the result of the acid in the stamp paper, ink, and/or gum interacting with the stamp paper to turn it brown, like old newspapers and other acidic papers. This can sometimes be cleaned using the ammonia bath method. However, severely toned paper can be rarely fully restored, and is often very brittle.
"would it be weird to lightly dust my albums with a non-colored foot powder to a act as a dessicant and antifungal"
Foot powder, and similar powders often contain corn starch, which is an organic. First, I might powder my nose, but I would never powder my albums. Some people use powder that does not contain organic material when they try to remove the adhesive on self-adhesive stamps. I rarely soak stamps, so someone else could tell you what powder they use.
"is there a list of stamp issues that should NOT be soaked?"
A catalog is usually a good place to look. Warnings will be placed near the listings where soaking a stamp can cause damage to the stamp (modern US self-adhesives, for example), or the inks will dissolve in water (aniline inks used on many British and Dutch stamps, for example).
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It's best not to mess with hinge remnants on mint stamps as thins are often the result.. Unfold the hinge so it is over the top of the stamp. Take the end of the hinge between your two fingers and pull the hinge quickly and straight up and angled slightly to one end. If this done right it will sever the hinge along the fold line, this I find works the best. May require some practice. If the stamp has a good hinge on it then the best way is just relick and reuse it. No chance of thinning and saves you another hinge.
There is a size limit of 900 X 1225pix
No limit on pics so please show more items for us to see.
What you have shown so far are very common stamps with little value. The highest value stamp you've shown is $2.60
It looks like the collector was fairly neat in mounting which is always a good sign.
Good luck!
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I have most all of the Latin American stamps. You should have a look via the link below. You can then compare and see all of the stamps that were issued, It will give you a good reference to what you are dealing with. The pages you have do not show anywhere close to all of the early stamps issued. Normally the better stamps in your album(s) will probably be mounted in the margins as no spaces were provided for them. Those are the first stamps I would look at.
Stamps of Latin America here: http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/samerica/samerica.html
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thanks for the info guys, i know yall probably get tired of repeating the same advice over and over again (ive been reading through old threads as much as i can) but for some reason (especially with new collectors such as myself) its comforting/validating? to have it given directly and helps me move forward i guess lol so much appreciation!
I most DEF been browsing through your website Antonius!
its kinda awesome and the quality of the images you've posted its unbelievably helpful ! I really enjoy your "page of the day" posts and i think you should put some of the commentary you've given in those posts
--level of difficulty in identifying/completing a page/country,
--which series of stamps were particularly complex due to reprints or similar designs being issued
--which stamps are the "crowns" of the set
--any info from your personal experiences in hunting them down and putting it all together)
onto the pages of your website. Stuff like that is invaluable to new collectors such as myself and I think the commentary along with the pictures pages would give them so much more context.
of course with the amount of material you have it could take a while... might as well write an auto-biography while your at it! lol
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Answering questions never gets old if it is appreciated.
There are many things I wish I would have done when I started my site, however with time it has become so large that editing nearly every page would just be to much work. There is also an unlimited amount of information that could be used but then again would require unlimited time. Most all of that information can be found elsewhere and is usually just a Google away. From the start I wanted the site to be very simple, basically just showing the stamps and doing it in away that makes it very quick to find what you seek.
I do yet plan to do a few things like putting dates in the first thumbnail of each row. Showing very high res scans of each of the early types is another I plan to do and I have already done this with Germany. I have a list somewhere of changes I would like to make but I don't if I'll ever get many of them done.
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Howdy Yall!
Was looking around an antique mall when out of the corner a box caught my eye. It had three minkus master global album in it and he was only asking $50 (im still not very comfortable on deciding whether or not ive gotten a bargin but oh well) each so i snapped them up. Everything is hinged and its a mix of mint and canceled and everythings not in the best of conditions (yellowing, foxing?, eaten pages lol) but it had a lot of material i don't have so i figured id at least get some space fillers out of it. the albums contained mostly Latin America, northern europe, france +colonies, and some asia. Ill post some pictures and any tips/help with identification or leads on any which catch your eye would be appreciated!. Also does anyone have any experince with the best method on attempting to salvage, clean up, and take apart the material safely?
Mucho Gracias!!,
(these two are Fournier forgeries i think from what ive looked up)
I think the biggest problem is that now that i've seen these master global albums i kinda want to get my own to fill....0_o lol
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here are some from guatemala
i really like these air mail stamps Im not sure about the prvious owners identifications because it looks like he was mixing issues. maybe by topic? lol
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Three Master Global Albums full of stamps for $50, I'd say bought you $50 worth of fun.
If you want to assemble the Master Global album set, then take care with what you have now. Several of the years remain out of print. The Minkus albums were bought many years ago by Amos Media, the company that also owns Scott. The year sets are as pricey as the Scott International albums.
From what you have shown, I see about what I would expect to see as far as stamps and how they are mounted on the pages.
Taking the stamps off may need a little care. Sometimes, the collectors use "innovative" methods of hinging stamps to the pages. Paper hinges and even stamp sheet selvage are common in older albums. Such hinges can be soaked off the used stamps the same as if they were on paper. You may thin out or tear an album space here and there trying to remove a stamp. That just seems to go with the process. You won't see it when you put a stamp back in the space, however.
Just take it slow and easy, and you will be able to reassemble a nice collection.
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Hey Michael78651,
Thanks for the encouragement and advice! So far everthing seems to be attached with regular hindes and I definitely plan on some form of reassembly and I'm hoping a bath will clean some of them up a bit. .
A couple more questions on my mind
-- what to do with the mint hinged?
Remove or leave as a backing for when I re-hinge
-- should i be concerned about foxing, rusting,scaling,toning?
I've read that the high humidities of some countries is no bueno for stamps (also would it be weird to lightly dust my albums with a non-colored foot powder to a act as a dessicant and antifungal or is that overkill?)
--is there a list of stamp issues that should NOT be soaked?
--is there a size or # limit on picture posts?
I don't want to use up unnecessary space but I like the idea that others w more knowledge have the chance to look over the material and give a heads up to items I should take extra care with, spend some more time examining or sharing a special tidbit on historical reference.
Muchos gracias!
Robert
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Robert:
Were there any Costa Rica stamps in your album? I am a Costa Rica specialist.
David G.
Ottawa, Canada
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Hi David,
Haven't come across any pages of Costa Rica yet. Mexico, Uruguay, Paraguay, el Salvador, Panama, Venezuela, Guatemala, Honduras,Nicaragua, Haiti ,peru, Portugal colonies, but not Costa Rica yet. I'll def post any if I come across it in one of the other albums though!
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Robert, ask away. Don't worry about "taking up space". Remember that there may be others who are too shy to ask the same questions that you are. In any event, your questions may help someone else as well.
"what to do with the mint hinged? Remove or leave as a backing for when I re-hinge"
You want to be very careful when removing hinges. If the hinge is stuck tightly on the stamp, don't pull the hinge off. You will probably damage the stamp. Many will tear off the part that was attached to the album and leave the little flap on the stamp. The new hinge can be applied to the flap to eliminate multiple hinge marks on the stamp.
"-- should i be concerned about foxing, rusting,scaling,toning?"
Yes. These are all different things.
- Foxing is a fungus, and will spread to other stamps. Best to not put a stamp with fixing into your album. Sometimes a bath in clear, unscented ammonia will clean off the foxing. I put the stamp in a clear plastic container with a lid to keep the ammonia gas from leeching out too fast. I'll agitate the container now and then. The foxing will be eliminated or reduced, and the paper will be cleaned. When you don't see the fixing clearing up any more, remove the stamp from the ammonia, rinse it off and set aside to dry. Note that if you place an unused stamp in the ammonia, the gum will be removed.
- "Rusting" is not that at all. It is actually sulphurization. The orange, yellow, brown and red inks can become victims of air pollution (cigarette smoke, smog, etc.) and turn brown. A bath in water peroxide solution (3% or 5% is common off-the-shelf) will usually return the colors to their original hues. Note that if you place an unused stamp in the ammonia, the gum will be removed.
- "Toning" is the result of the acid in the stamp paper, ink, and/or gum interacting with the stamp paper to turn it brown, like old newspapers and other acidic papers. This can sometimes be cleaned using the ammonia bath method. However, severely toned paper can be rarely fully restored, and is often very brittle.
"would it be weird to lightly dust my albums with a non-colored foot powder to a act as a dessicant and antifungal"
Foot powder, and similar powders often contain corn starch, which is an organic. First, I might powder my nose, but I would never powder my albums. Some people use powder that does not contain organic material when they try to remove the adhesive on self-adhesive stamps. I rarely soak stamps, so someone else could tell you what powder they use.
"is there a list of stamp issues that should NOT be soaked?"
A catalog is usually a good place to look. Warnings will be placed near the listings where soaking a stamp can cause damage to the stamp (modern US self-adhesives, for example), or the inks will dissolve in water (aniline inks used on many British and Dutch stamps, for example).
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It's best not to mess with hinge remnants on mint stamps as thins are often the result.. Unfold the hinge so it is over the top of the stamp. Take the end of the hinge between your two fingers and pull the hinge quickly and straight up and angled slightly to one end. If this done right it will sever the hinge along the fold line, this I find works the best. May require some practice. If the stamp has a good hinge on it then the best way is just relick and reuse it. No chance of thinning and saves you another hinge.
There is a size limit of 900 X 1225pix
No limit on pics so please show more items for us to see.
What you have shown so far are very common stamps with little value. The highest value stamp you've shown is $2.60
It looks like the collector was fairly neat in mounting which is always a good sign.
Good luck!
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re: Latin America finds from old album
I have most all of the Latin American stamps. You should have a look via the link below. You can then compare and see all of the stamps that were issued, It will give you a good reference to what you are dealing with. The pages you have do not show anywhere close to all of the early stamps issued. Normally the better stamps in your album(s) will probably be mounted in the margins as no spaces were provided for them. Those are the first stamps I would look at.
Stamps of Latin America here: http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/samerica/samerica.html
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thanks for the info guys, i know yall probably get tired of repeating the same advice over and over again (ive been reading through old threads as much as i can) but for some reason (especially with new collectors such as myself) its comforting/validating? to have it given directly and helps me move forward i guess lol so much appreciation!
I most DEF been browsing through your website Antonius!
its kinda awesome and the quality of the images you've posted its unbelievably helpful ! I really enjoy your "page of the day" posts and i think you should put some of the commentary you've given in those posts
--level of difficulty in identifying/completing a page/country,
--which series of stamps were particularly complex due to reprints or similar designs being issued
--which stamps are the "crowns" of the set
--any info from your personal experiences in hunting them down and putting it all together)
onto the pages of your website. Stuff like that is invaluable to new collectors such as myself and I think the commentary along with the pictures pages would give them so much more context.
of course with the amount of material you have it could take a while... might as well write an auto-biography while your at it! lol
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Answering questions never gets old if it is appreciated.
There are many things I wish I would have done when I started my site, however with time it has become so large that editing nearly every page would just be to much work. There is also an unlimited amount of information that could be used but then again would require unlimited time. Most all of that information can be found elsewhere and is usually just a Google away. From the start I wanted the site to be very simple, basically just showing the stamps and doing it in away that makes it very quick to find what you seek.
I do yet plan to do a few things like putting dates in the first thumbnail of each row. Showing very high res scans of each of the early types is another I plan to do and I have already done this with Germany. I have a list somewhere of changes I would like to make but I don't if I'll ever get many of them done.
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