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Europe/Germany : Post War Item?

 

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rjan
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10 Jun 2016
10:09:18am
I spent an hour or so leafing through my old Michel's. I am assuming this is a local revenue item. Can anyone help?

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Jlav

10 Jun 2016
10:20:01am
re: Post War Item?

Hi

This Germany from 1947 - 1948 Scott 559.

Jacques (jlav)

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rjan
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10 Jun 2016
10:27:55am
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Jlav, you have identified the basic stamp. Is the overprint standard pre-cancellation?

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Bujutsu
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10 Jun 2016
10:54:59am
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To the best of my knowledge, these numbers were first applied on June 21,or June24, 1948. I believe that the numbers represented the different districts. Mass socks of the "Sower" issue were overprinted by the Allied forces after the collapse of Nazi Germany. Maybe someone with more expertise in this area can help?

Chimo

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Jlav

10 Jun 2016
11:33:22am
re: Post War Item?

Starting at page 68


http://www.germanyphilatelicsocietyusa.org/chapters/tc/articles/history.pdf

Jacques (jlav)


(Modified by Moderator on 2016-06-10 12:25:48)

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rjan
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10 Jun 2016
12:40:37pm
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Thanks, Jlav, I will give the article a studied read.

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nigelc
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10 Jun 2016
06:44:08pm
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That's a very nice looking block. Happy

These are postage stamps issued in the Russian zone as an emergency measure following a currency reform.

There are thousands of these overprints which follow a common format of "OPD" number plus the postal district name

The OPD (Oberpostdirektion) number identifies the old high-level German postal administration regions. Here "16" refers to OPD Erfurt in Thuringia.

My 1999 Michel Germany Specialised catalogue lists all the postal districts that were involved in this overprinting within each OPD.

Here the postal district is Sitzendorf.

Many of these overprints were forged in large quantities and the most common districts to be forged are identified in Michel with a zero price.

I'm pleased to say Sitzendorf is not one of these.

I assume the postmark of Mellenbach is the current village of Mellenbach-Glasbach which is very close to Sitzendorf.

My Michel catalogue gives prices for each postal district and for each basic stamp overprinted like this within each OPD. However, it does not go as far as listing each stamp known from each postal district!

I don't know if this information is still published in the Michel Germany Specialised. I believe it may have been removed.

I hope this helps along with the article provided by Jlav.


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rjan
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10 Jun 2016
08:13:19pm
re: Post War Item?

Thanks, Nigelc. It fills some of the gaps. My 1993 Michel Germany specialized does not seem to have any of these details.

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11 Jun 2016
12:21:52pm
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This information is contained in the 2009 English version and the 2013 German version of the Michel Germany Specialized catalogue - Part 2.

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rjan

10 Jun 2016
10:09:18am

I spent an hour or so leafing through my old Michel's. I am assuming this is a local revenue item. Can anyone help?

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Jlav

10 Jun 2016
10:20:01am

re: Post War Item?

Hi

This Germany from 1947 - 1948 Scott 559.

Jacques (jlav)

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rjan

10 Jun 2016
10:27:55am

re: Post War Item?

Jlav, you have identified the basic stamp. Is the overprint standard pre-cancellation?

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Bujutsu

10 Jun 2016
10:54:59am

re: Post War Item?

To the best of my knowledge, these numbers were first applied on June 21,or June24, 1948. I believe that the numbers represented the different districts. Mass socks of the "Sower" issue were overprinted by the Allied forces after the collapse of Nazi Germany. Maybe someone with more expertise in this area can help?

Chimo

Bujutsu

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Jlav

10 Jun 2016
11:33:22am

re: Post War Item?

Starting at page 68


http://www.germanyphilatelicsocietyusa.org/chapters/tc/articles/history.pdf

Jacques (jlav)


(Modified by Moderator on 2016-06-10 12:25:48)

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rjan

10 Jun 2016
12:40:37pm

re: Post War Item?

Thanks, Jlav, I will give the article a studied read.

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nigelc

10 Jun 2016
06:44:08pm

re: Post War Item?

That's a very nice looking block. Happy

These are postage stamps issued in the Russian zone as an emergency measure following a currency reform.

There are thousands of these overprints which follow a common format of "OPD" number plus the postal district name

The OPD (Oberpostdirektion) number identifies the old high-level German postal administration regions. Here "16" refers to OPD Erfurt in Thuringia.

My 1999 Michel Germany Specialised catalogue lists all the postal districts that were involved in this overprinting within each OPD.

Here the postal district is Sitzendorf.

Many of these overprints were forged in large quantities and the most common districts to be forged are identified in Michel with a zero price.

I'm pleased to say Sitzendorf is not one of these.

I assume the postmark of Mellenbach is the current village of Mellenbach-Glasbach which is very close to Sitzendorf.

My Michel catalogue gives prices for each postal district and for each basic stamp overprinted like this within each OPD. However, it does not go as far as listing each stamp known from each postal district!

I don't know if this information is still published in the Michel Germany Specialised. I believe it may have been removed.

I hope this helps along with the article provided by Jlav.


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rjan

10 Jun 2016
08:13:19pm

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Thanks, Nigelc. It fills some of the gaps. My 1993 Michel Germany specialized does not seem to have any of these details.

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okstamps

11 Jun 2016
12:21:52pm

re: Post War Item?

This information is contained in the 2009 English version and the 2013 German version of the Michel Germany Specialized catalogue - Part 2.

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