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National Council of Education
4th Triennia
Victoria - ?
April 5
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Cancellation is Canadian, so one would expect Canadian stamps. Perhaps the 2 cents Canada post was sufficient and the U.S. stamp was just going along for the ride. Vancouver is right next door to the U.S., so U.S. post offices would not be far off to purchase U.S. stamps.
Pure conjecture.
Eric
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here's my supposition.....
2c surface from BC to somewhere in the US PLUS 5c air mail from THAT US city to somewhere else. US and Canada rates were identical at the time and we had special treaties in place with Canada keeping these reciprical rates in place.
There was some history of paying surface from X to Y and airmail from Y to Z, especially in international mailings of the day (that is, air mail to the boat in NYC, surface from there to Leipzig).
That said, the US stamp IN Canada is illegal, but likely tolerated, perhaps snickered upon. It had NO postal validity in BC even if it was used to pay the airmail aspect of an international trip.
The airmail aspect would be 5c from 8.1.28 to 7.6.32 in the states. I don't know if Canadian rates changed simultaneously.
anyway, my supposition of payment aiming to get it right but getting it wrong.
can we see the rest of the cover
David
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08:12:45pm
David,
You are correct about the dual payment, but incorrect about the status of the US stamps used in Canada.
In the early days of airmail, before there was airmail service from Canada to the USA, it was common practice to send a letter via surface to the USA from border cities, then pay the US airmail for airmail delivery in the USA. This was probably on a cover that went surface from Vancouver to Seattle (2c Canadian) then airmail to some other destination in the USA for the 5c.
There are many examples on the internet. Do a Google search for "Canada USA dual currency airmail franking".
Here are a couple of First Flight examples from my "Sold" database:
Roy
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Roy,
If you ever run across another one of those with the U.S. C11 on it, I would
certainly be VERY interested in purchasing it!!
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This is what I enjoy about our hobby Nearly everyday I find a bit of new information to add to my postal history. Thankyou Stamporama and THANKYOU ROY!!!!!
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Roy,
so, was this a tolerated convention or was it legal? If legal, when did it change to all national currency?
David
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I have an envelope with a 1cent US stamp and a 1 cent Canadian stamp for postage It was mailed in Montreal July 25 1915 to an address in Grand Isle Maine I don`t believe airmail was involved.
QUESTION..Were dual stamps required at that time and I wonder where the US stamp was placed on the envelope?
Did Canadian post offices sell US stamps for this purpose? I also have seen the dual franking on envelopes delivered by Railway Post Offices. Any info would be appreciated
Cheryl
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Thanks to everyone for their inputs and information, its appreciated.
Vernon vjones
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Can someone tell me about this usages of both countries stamps here.
National Council of Education
4th Triennia
Victoria - ?
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re: Dual use of Canadian and United States stamps - 1929
Cancellation is Canadian, so one would expect Canadian stamps. Perhaps the 2 cents Canada post was sufficient and the U.S. stamp was just going along for the ride. Vancouver is right next door to the U.S., so U.S. post offices would not be far off to purchase U.S. stamps.
Pure conjecture.
Eric
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re: Dual use of Canadian and United States stamps - 1929
here's my supposition.....
2c surface from BC to somewhere in the US PLUS 5c air mail from THAT US city to somewhere else. US and Canada rates were identical at the time and we had special treaties in place with Canada keeping these reciprical rates in place.
There was some history of paying surface from X to Y and airmail from Y to Z, especially in international mailings of the day (that is, air mail to the boat in NYC, surface from there to Leipzig).
That said, the US stamp IN Canada is illegal, but likely tolerated, perhaps snickered upon. It had NO postal validity in BC even if it was used to pay the airmail aspect of an international trip.
The airmail aspect would be 5c from 8.1.28 to 7.6.32 in the states. I don't know if Canadian rates changed simultaneously.
anyway, my supposition of payment aiming to get it right but getting it wrong.
can we see the rest of the cover
David
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re: Dual use of Canadian and United States stamps - 1929
David,
You are correct about the dual payment, but incorrect about the status of the US stamps used in Canada.
In the early days of airmail, before there was airmail service from Canada to the USA, it was common practice to send a letter via surface to the USA from border cities, then pay the US airmail for airmail delivery in the USA. This was probably on a cover that went surface from Vancouver to Seattle (2c Canadian) then airmail to some other destination in the USA for the 5c.
There are many examples on the internet. Do a Google search for "Canada USA dual currency airmail franking".
Here are a couple of First Flight examples from my "Sold" database:
Roy
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re: Dual use of Canadian and United States stamps - 1929
Roy,
If you ever run across another one of those with the U.S. C11 on it, I would
certainly be VERY interested in purchasing it!!
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08:23:31am
re: Dual use of Canadian and United States stamps - 1929
This is what I enjoy about our hobby Nearly everyday I find a bit of new information to add to my postal history. Thankyou Stamporama and THANKYOU ROY!!!!!
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re: Dual use of Canadian and United States stamps - 1929
Roy,
so, was this a tolerated convention or was it legal? If legal, when did it change to all national currency?
David
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12:30:55pm
re: Dual use of Canadian and United States stamps - 1929
I have an envelope with a 1cent US stamp and a 1 cent Canadian stamp for postage It was mailed in Montreal July 25 1915 to an address in Grand Isle Maine I don`t believe airmail was involved.
QUESTION..Were dual stamps required at that time and I wonder where the US stamp was placed on the envelope?
Did Canadian post offices sell US stamps for this purpose? I also have seen the dual franking on envelopes delivered by Railway Post Offices. Any info would be appreciated
Cheryl
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re: Dual use of Canadian and United States stamps - 1929
Thanks to everyone for their inputs and information, its appreciated.
Vernon vjones
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