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Oceania/Australia : Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

 

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04 Aug 2016
02:14:43pm
One penny deep carmine - aniline printing, this is the scarcest shade of the T.S. Harrison printing, the stamp has a large multiple watermark. The stamp is listed as very rare.

The CDS (circular date stamp) is dated "SOUTH YARRA VIC 13AU20" AUGUST 13, 1920.

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04 Aug 2016
02:38:00pm
re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

Beautiful, and with a lovely socked-on-the-nose small town cancel to boot!

I am still not sure what to look for to tell if a stamp is printed in aniline ink.

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04 Aug 2016
09:05:02pm
re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

Thanks Chris,

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05 Aug 2016
09:18:53pm
re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

Anglophile is correct smauggie. Here is some info I wrote earlier,

Aniline

Mint unhinged aniline stamps are very scarce and used aniline stamps are ruined by the ink “bleeding” when immersed into water. Aniline ink was an ink with a coal-tar base; it was an early attempt to prevent the stamp from being re-used. It worked as a preventive thwarting re-use but a nightmare for collectors of used stamps.

This early preventative was first used with 19th century stamps and was last used in Australia in 1952 on the very scarce 7½d.

The green-blue (aniline) stamp pictured has a chalky appearance compared to the regular type on the right. The aniline is clearly seen at the back of the stamp.

1952 aniline 7½d and on the right a regular stamp for comparison.

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10/- 1948 Coronation Robes with slight aniline inking (ACSC 214B). It is reddish-purple (aniline) and not the deep or pale purple seen on the regular and scarcer issues of the Coronation stamps.

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28 Nov 2017
04:11:10pm
re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

Hi Rob

Now all the different colours in the GEO V series is very confusing to me.
So reading between the lines this stamp would have possibly been printed with aniline ink because of the bleed through on the reverse?Image Not Found

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A nice clear reading of the watermark as well, some hinge still attached. Confused

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28 Nov 2017
11:27:38pm
re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

Hi Rob

Sorry about being a pest.

This 71/2d Geo VI seems similar to your illustration above. So possibly aniline.

As well as having my own collection of stamps, the family decided to give me all the old stamp collections of everyone, because they knew that I collected stamps.
I had been away from collecting for years, but given the task of then sorting out the collections, renewed my interest. So slowly, slowly I am sorting through them as trying to put them in catalogue order. Mostly using Gibbons. I found volume two and three of the Decimals in the opp shop( thrift shop for overseas readers) but I will have to purchase the predecimal Elizabeth II,

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back, unfortunately although mint, they have hinge remnants.
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Horamakhet

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29 Nov 2017
05:36:29am
re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

Hi Horamakhet

The George V 1d is definitely aniline.

Rob

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29 Nov 2017
05:47:56am
re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

With the aniline variety I have on the left you will notice that the King and the background is a bluey-green compared to the normal blue issue of your block of 4.

Rob

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18 Dec 2017
08:39:49pm
re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

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Now I know these are all printed with aniline ink, but how does one distinguish all the different varieties of colour?

Horamakhet

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Stu

20 Dec 2017
05:23:55am
re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

I have all of those stamps but im guessing they are just regular ink ones. The stamps themselves still look great though!

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29 Dec 2017
05:25:46pm
re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

"Now I know these are all printed with aniline ink, but how does one distinguish all the different varieties of colour?"


Can't help you there Horamakhet, I'm partially colour-blind and red shades is a nightmare to me.

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fairdinkumstamps

02 Jan 2018
08:51:01pm
re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

"Now I know these are all printed with aniline ink, but how does one distinguish all the different varieties of colour?

Horamakhet"



It's quite a science and presents difficulties even for the experts.

Some things that help:

* The latest KGV Australian Commonwealth Specialists Catalogue to research shades and the dates they were issued
* Lots of copies of KGV 1d reds with readable datestamps to align shades with known issue dates
* A 365nm uv lamp to identify the reactions peculiar to the various shades

Good luck!
Martin
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04 Aug 2016
02:14:43pm

One penny deep carmine - aniline printing, this is the scarcest shade of the T.S. Harrison printing, the stamp has a large multiple watermark. The stamp is listed as very rare.

The CDS (circular date stamp) is dated "SOUTH YARRA VIC 13AU20" AUGUST 13, 1920.

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04 Aug 2016
02:38:00pm

re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

Beautiful, and with a lovely socked-on-the-nose small town cancel to boot!

I am still not sure what to look for to tell if a stamp is printed in aniline ink.

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04 Aug 2016
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re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

Thanks Chris,

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05 Aug 2016
09:18:53pm

re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

Anglophile is correct smauggie. Here is some info I wrote earlier,

Aniline

Mint unhinged aniline stamps are very scarce and used aniline stamps are ruined by the ink “bleeding” when immersed into water. Aniline ink was an ink with a coal-tar base; it was an early attempt to prevent the stamp from being re-used. It worked as a preventive thwarting re-use but a nightmare for collectors of used stamps.

This early preventative was first used with 19th century stamps and was last used in Australia in 1952 on the very scarce 7½d.

The green-blue (aniline) stamp pictured has a chalky appearance compared to the regular type on the right. The aniline is clearly seen at the back of the stamp.

1952 aniline 7½d and on the right a regular stamp for comparison.

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10/- 1948 Coronation Robes with slight aniline inking (ACSC 214B). It is reddish-purple (aniline) and not the deep or pale purple seen on the regular and scarcer issues of the Coronation stamps.

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Horamakhet

28 Nov 2017
04:11:10pm

re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

Hi Rob

Now all the different colours in the GEO V series is very confusing to me.
So reading between the lines this stamp would have possibly been printed with aniline ink because of the bleed through on the reverse?Image Not Found

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A nice clear reading of the watermark as well, some hinge still attached. Confused

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Horamakhet

28 Nov 2017
11:27:38pm

re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

Hi Rob

Sorry about being a pest.

This 71/2d Geo VI seems similar to your illustration above. So possibly aniline.

As well as having my own collection of stamps, the family decided to give me all the old stamp collections of everyone, because they knew that I collected stamps.
I had been away from collecting for years, but given the task of then sorting out the collections, renewed my interest. So slowly, slowly I am sorting through them as trying to put them in catalogue order. Mostly using Gibbons. I found volume two and three of the Decimals in the opp shop( thrift shop for overseas readers) but I will have to purchase the predecimal Elizabeth II,

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front view

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back, unfortunately although mint, they have hinge remnants.
Regards

Horamakhet

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My clan Coat-of-Arms Scotland
29 Nov 2017
05:36:29am

re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

Hi Horamakhet

The George V 1d is definitely aniline.

Rob

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My clan Coat-of-Arms Scotland
29 Nov 2017
05:47:56am

re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

With the aniline variety I have on the left you will notice that the King and the background is a bluey-green compared to the normal blue issue of your block of 4.

Rob

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Horamakhet

18 Dec 2017
08:39:49pm

re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

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Now I know these are all printed with aniline ink, but how does one distinguish all the different varieties of colour?

Horamakhet

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Stu

20 Dec 2017
05:23:55am

re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

I have all of those stamps but im guessing they are just regular ink ones. The stamps themselves still look great though!

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My clan Coat-of-Arms Scotland
29 Dec 2017
05:25:46pm

re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

"Now I know these are all printed with aniline ink, but how does one distinguish all the different varieties of colour?"


Can't help you there Horamakhet, I'm partially colour-blind and red shades is a nightmare to me.

Rob
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fairdinkumstamps

02 Jan 2018
08:51:01pm

re: Very Rare KGV Deep Carmine Aniline One Penny Stamp

"Now I know these are all printed with aniline ink, but how does one distinguish all the different varieties of colour?

Horamakhet"



It's quite a science and presents difficulties even for the experts.

Some things that help:

* The latest KGV Australian Commonwealth Specialists Catalogue to research shades and the dates they were issued
* Lots of copies of KGV 1d reds with readable datestamps to align shades with known issue dates
* A 365nm uv lamp to identify the reactions peculiar to the various shades

Good luck!
Martin
https://www.fairdinkumstamps.com

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