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Oceania/Other : Gilbert and Ellice islands used

 

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Jansimon
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28 Oct 2016
02:32:53am

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Lately I have been adding stamps from the Gilbert and Ellice Islands to my collection and I noticed that I have almost none used. When I look to the map, it is just a bunch of small islands with a land area less than 1000 square kilometres scattered over 3.5 million square kilometres of sea, with at the time they were called Gilbert and Ellice Islands (before they split up and became Kiribati and Tuvalu) a population of roughly 50,000.
I can imagine that not many letters were sent from those islands, but what I do not understand is why used stamps from G&E do not have a very high catalogue value. No, in my (admittedly somewhat older) Scott catalogue of 2009 I see that many stamps and sets have minimum value, or slightly above.
I suppose the same can be said for many other small Commonwealth Island territories such as Falklands, Tristan da Cunha, Ascension, St. Helena etc.

Does anyone have a clue why this is? Is there no interest in postally used from the G&E islands?
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red-eric-1

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28 Oct 2016
08:33:02am
re: Gilbert and Ellice islands used

Hi Jan Simon

Just my own theory, but I would suspect that because there are so few people on the island, and postally-used are so uncommon, there are few collectors who have sufficient interest to chase postally-used G&E. I collect postally-used pretty much exclusively, and I will only focus on countries where there is a reasonable supply of postally-used stamps available, so G&E wouldn't be a country I would bother with.

This would typically translate into low demand, and therefore low catalogue value. (For a comparison - some stamps of Latin America are quite difficult to find but catalogued low because few people are looking for them. Same situation probably exists for G&E)

I suspect British Commonwealth generalist collectors all focus on mint stamps from G&E.

Eric

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28 Oct 2016
08:45:33am

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One would expect that because of the low availability of postally used Gilbert & Ellice, the price would go up. Even when there are not many people looking for such stamps. I suppose Gilbert & Ellice is not popular among collectors no matter what the condition is: MNH, MH or used.
I suppose it is yet another example of how normal laws of economics do not apply when it comes to stamp collecting...

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JW1950

28 Oct 2016
10:25:22am
re: Gilbert and Ellice islands used

Many Commonwealth collectors such as myself concentrate on specific periods of the Commonwealth.
I collect GVI issues (1937-50 mint)and by the number of catalogs specifically related to this series, many other collectors probably do the same.
In the case of G & E these and earlier issues are generally more expensive as used and quite a few have forged postmarks.
Overall the early varieties of G.& E. are not as expensive as most of the other early Commonwealth countries.
There is probably much less interest in G.& E. for WW collectors.


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Rob1956
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28 Oct 2016
06:57:49pm
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"with at the time they were called Gilbert and Ellice Islands (before they split up and became Kiribati and Tuvalu) "


Thanks Jansimon, I really didn't know that.
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29 Oct 2016
10:37:11am
re: Gilbert and Ellice islands used

"There is probably much less interest in G.& E. for WW collectors."



But far from zero! Cool

See my G & E blog post oriented to WW collectors..

http://bigblue1840-1940.blogspot.com/2012/05/gilbert-ellice-islands.html


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TuskenRaider
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29 Oct 2016
04:43:11pm
re: Gilbert and Ellice islands used

Hi everyone;

I found this on Wikipedia:

"In 2013, President Tong has spoken of climate-change induced sea level rise as "inevitable". "For our people to survive, then they will have to migrate. Either we can wait for the time when we have to move people en masse or we can prepare them—beginning from now ..." In New York in 2014, per The New Yorker, President Tong told The New York Times that "according to the projections, within this century, the water will be higher than the highest point in our lands". In 2014, President Tong finalized the purchase of a 20 km2 stretch of land on Vanua Levu, one of the larger Fiji islands, 2,000 km away. A move described by Tong as a "absolute necessity" should the nation be completely submerged under water."




Since this purchase was finalized in 2014, I suspect that many families have already left, for their new home. This will probably happen to many colonies that are low lying to sea level. I read a few years ago that in one nation they have already moved away.

I like collecting those stamps also, and I noticed not many used examples.

Just sortin'....
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Jansimon

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28 Oct 2016
02:32:53am

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Lately I have been adding stamps from the Gilbert and Ellice Islands to my collection and I noticed that I have almost none used. When I look to the map, it is just a bunch of small islands with a land area less than 1000 square kilometres scattered over 3.5 million square kilometres of sea, with at the time they were called Gilbert and Ellice Islands (before they split up and became Kiribati and Tuvalu) a population of roughly 50,000.
I can imagine that not many letters were sent from those islands, but what I do not understand is why used stamps from G&E do not have a very high catalogue value. No, in my (admittedly somewhat older) Scott catalogue of 2009 I see that many stamps and sets have minimum value, or slightly above.
I suppose the same can be said for many other small Commonwealth Island territories such as Falklands, Tristan da Cunha, Ascension, St. Helena etc.

Does anyone have a clue why this is? Is there no interest in postally used from the G&E islands?

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red-eric-1

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28 Oct 2016
08:33:02am

re: Gilbert and Ellice islands used

Hi Jan Simon

Just my own theory, but I would suspect that because there are so few people on the island, and postally-used are so uncommon, there are few collectors who have sufficient interest to chase postally-used G&E. I collect postally-used pretty much exclusively, and I will only focus on countries where there is a reasonable supply of postally-used stamps available, so G&E wouldn't be a country I would bother with.

This would typically translate into low demand, and therefore low catalogue value. (For a comparison - some stamps of Latin America are quite difficult to find but catalogued low because few people are looking for them. Same situation probably exists for G&E)

I suspect British Commonwealth generalist collectors all focus on mint stamps from G&E.

Eric

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Jansimon

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28 Oct 2016
08:45:33am

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re: Gilbert and Ellice islands used

One would expect that because of the low availability of postally used Gilbert & Ellice, the price would go up. Even when there are not many people looking for such stamps. I suppose Gilbert & Ellice is not popular among collectors no matter what the condition is: MNH, MH or used.
I suppose it is yet another example of how normal laws of economics do not apply when it comes to stamp collecting...

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JW1950

28 Oct 2016
10:25:22am

re: Gilbert and Ellice islands used

Many Commonwealth collectors such as myself concentrate on specific periods of the Commonwealth.
I collect GVI issues (1937-50 mint)and by the number of catalogs specifically related to this series, many other collectors probably do the same.
In the case of G & E these and earlier issues are generally more expensive as used and quite a few have forged postmarks.
Overall the early varieties of G.& E. are not as expensive as most of the other early Commonwealth countries.
There is probably much less interest in G.& E. for WW collectors.


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Rob1956

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28 Oct 2016
06:57:49pm

re: Gilbert and Ellice islands used

"with at the time they were called Gilbert and Ellice Islands (before they split up and became Kiribati and Tuvalu) "


Thanks Jansimon, I really didn't know that.
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jkjblue

29 Oct 2016
10:37:11am

re: Gilbert and Ellice islands used

"There is probably much less interest in G.& E. for WW collectors."



But far from zero! Cool

See my G & E blog post oriented to WW collectors..

http://bigblue1840-1940.blogspot.com/2012/05/gilbert-ellice-islands.html


(Modified by Moderator on 2017-09-26 01:52:59)
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TuskenRaider

29 Oct 2016
04:43:11pm

re: Gilbert and Ellice islands used

Hi everyone;

I found this on Wikipedia:

"In 2013, President Tong has spoken of climate-change induced sea level rise as "inevitable". "For our people to survive, then they will have to migrate. Either we can wait for the time when we have to move people en masse or we can prepare them—beginning from now ..." In New York in 2014, per The New Yorker, President Tong told The New York Times that "according to the projections, within this century, the water will be higher than the highest point in our lands". In 2014, President Tong finalized the purchase of a 20 km2 stretch of land on Vanua Levu, one of the larger Fiji islands, 2,000 km away. A move described by Tong as a "absolute necessity" should the nation be completely submerged under water."




Since this purchase was finalized in 2014, I suspect that many families have already left, for their new home. This will probably happen to many colonies that are low lying to sea level. I read a few years ago that in one nation they have already moved away.

I like collecting those stamps also, and I noticed not many used examples.

Just sortin'....
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