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Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
During this session, I went into my email inbox (Outlook) and found a Stamporama message notification email that I hadn't read. So I clicked on the link (which opened in a new tab) and strangely there was another message dated 27th October.
I've never needed to click on a notification email to 'activate' a message in the SOR message area before.
Have any other members experienced this, or is this just a 'Halloween phantom' ?
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Hi Ningpo;
Here is what you should do:
1) contact Tim directly ASAP, this is probably a hacker trying to pfish your personal data.
2) Until you find out what that was about do not type any passwords, usernames, or any other data.
3) Create a text file with a list of every one of your passwords, all usernames and what site they are associated with. Also your phone numbers, address, and any and all personal data that you might use on the internet.
4) Whenever you are logging in or filling in forms on the internet, DO NOT TYPE this data. You may have a keylogger on your operating system. Kinda like a Trojan horse, that monitors your keyboard and e-mails everything you type to some hacker.
5) When you need to use that data, open that text file and use copy-paste. That makes it much more difficult for them to get your data.
My machine is so old that no virus software will support Windows 98, so I use copy-paste all the time, and it is actually faster than typing and trying to remember it all.
Another thing I do is whenever I send replies to the Discussion Board, or lengthly e-mails that are more than one liners, I compose off line in a text file so it stays private.
Whenever you click on a link, before you release the mouse button, look in your status bar, at the bottom of your browser. It will tell you if you are being sent somewhere you do not recognize. When you click the mouse two events happen; mousedown (you push and hold the button), and mouseup (when you release the button).
The status bar can be accessed in the browsers VIEW menu; View > Status Bar (checkmarked). The status bar is also the place where the "load progress thermometer" is displayed.
If you should see something, that is not familiar, without releasing the mouse button, move it off to the side of the link, and then release the button (mouseup). That way even tho you clicked the mouse, you did not trigger the script that will send your browser into netherland.
Anytime you are using a dialog box, and just as you click OK and realize you goofed, do the same trick; move the mouse away from button and simply release it.
I hope that many members read this thread. If you know someone who doesn't use this forum, pass this on to them via e-mail, so others will know what not to do.
Just breezin' up....
TuskenRaider
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Thanks for the advice TuskenRaider. A question regarding:
4) Whenever you are logging in or filling in forms on the internet, DO NOT TYPE this data. You may have a keylogger on your operating system. Kinda like a Trojan horse, that monitors your keyboard and e-mails everything you type to some hacker.
I actually use a password vault now, which holds my logon/password data. It automatically detects sites that require a logon and password and then loads that information (masking passwords). I also use it to generate passwords where a new one needs to be created.
Can this 'auto generated' data be detected by a keylogger?
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Ningpo,
That is a strange problem. I haven't seen that before. Please let me know if it happens again.
Regards ... Tim.
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Hi Ningpo;
Whatever you need to enter to get to your password vault should also be copy-pasted as well.
Also, key loggers are very old technology, and hackers have more sophisticated ways of stealing your data. When you create that text file, give it a name like "Engineering Data", and identify websites by made up names that would not look like websites. Also place the text file on a thumb drive, and not on your hard disc. Only plug it in when it is needed.
It is good that you are using the password vault, but access it by not typing, until you figure this all out. I once saw a documentary about someone who had their identity stolen. It documented that it took a couple years to get everybody convinced that you are who you say you are.
Our government is totally behind the eight ball on this, and are not protecting us at all. politicians like Hillary Clinton are more part of the problem than the solution. The government should have become concerned over a decade ago and fixed this by now. Instead they wait until their precious military-industrial complex is under siege before doing anything about this ever widening problem.
Hiring a few ex-hackers to fix this is like letting the foxes guard the hen house.
I only hope Trump can "drain the swamp", and kick out the losers and leeches and fix our government to work like it should.
Leavin' the soap box....
TuskenRaider
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I was responding to a message that had been sent to me 24th October and there were two newer messages dated 25th and 26th from another member, which I had already read.
During this session, I went into my email inbox (Outlook) and found a Stamporama message notification email that I hadn't read. So I clicked on the link (which opened in a new tab) and strangely there was another message dated 27th October.
I've never needed to click on a notification email to 'activate' a message in the SOR message area before.
Have any other members experienced this, or is this just a 'Halloween phantom' ?
Login to Like
this post
re: Strange message problem.
Hi Ningpo;
Here is what you should do:
1) contact Tim directly ASAP, this is probably a hacker trying to pfish your personal data.
2) Until you find out what that was about do not type any passwords, usernames, or any other data.
3) Create a text file with a list of every one of your passwords, all usernames and what site they are associated with. Also your phone numbers, address, and any and all personal data that you might use on the internet.
4) Whenever you are logging in or filling in forms on the internet, DO NOT TYPE this data. You may have a keylogger on your operating system. Kinda like a Trojan horse, that monitors your keyboard and e-mails everything you type to some hacker.
5) When you need to use that data, open that text file and use copy-paste. That makes it much more difficult for them to get your data.
My machine is so old that no virus software will support Windows 98, so I use copy-paste all the time, and it is actually faster than typing and trying to remember it all.
Another thing I do is whenever I send replies to the Discussion Board, or lengthly e-mails that are more than one liners, I compose off line in a text file so it stays private.
Whenever you click on a link, before you release the mouse button, look in your status bar, at the bottom of your browser. It will tell you if you are being sent somewhere you do not recognize. When you click the mouse two events happen; mousedown (you push and hold the button), and mouseup (when you release the button).
The status bar can be accessed in the browsers VIEW menu; View > Status Bar (checkmarked). The status bar is also the place where the "load progress thermometer" is displayed.
If you should see something, that is not familiar, without releasing the mouse button, move it off to the side of the link, and then release the button (mouseup). That way even tho you clicked the mouse, you did not trigger the script that will send your browser into netherland.
Anytime you are using a dialog box, and just as you click OK and realize you goofed, do the same trick; move the mouse away from button and simply release it.
I hope that many members read this thread. If you know someone who doesn't use this forum, pass this on to them via e-mail, so others will know what not to do.
Just breezin' up....
TuskenRaider
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re: Strange message problem.
Thanks for the advice TuskenRaider. A question regarding:
4) Whenever you are logging in or filling in forms on the internet, DO NOT TYPE this data. You may have a keylogger on your operating system. Kinda like a Trojan horse, that monitors your keyboard and e-mails everything you type to some hacker.
I actually use a password vault now, which holds my logon/password data. It automatically detects sites that require a logon and password and then loads that information (masking passwords). I also use it to generate passwords where a new one needs to be created.
Can this 'auto generated' data be detected by a keylogger?
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re: Strange message problem.
Ningpo,
That is a strange problem. I haven't seen that before. Please let me know if it happens again.
Regards ... Tim.
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this post
re: Strange message problem.
Hi Ningpo;
Whatever you need to enter to get to your password vault should also be copy-pasted as well.
Also, key loggers are very old technology, and hackers have more sophisticated ways of stealing your data. When you create that text file, give it a name like "Engineering Data", and identify websites by made up names that would not look like websites. Also place the text file on a thumb drive, and not on your hard disc. Only plug it in when it is needed.
It is good that you are using the password vault, but access it by not typing, until you figure this all out. I once saw a documentary about someone who had their identity stolen. It documented that it took a couple years to get everybody convinced that you are who you say you are.
Our government is totally behind the eight ball on this, and are not protecting us at all. politicians like Hillary Clinton are more part of the problem than the solution. The government should have become concerned over a decade ago and fixed this by now. Instead they wait until their precious military-industrial complex is under siege before doing anything about this ever widening problem.
Hiring a few ex-hackers to fix this is like letting the foxes guard the hen house.
I only hope Trump can "drain the swamp", and kick out the losers and leeches and fix our government to work like it should.
Leavin' the soap box....
TuskenRaider
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