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Worldwide/Cinderellas & Seals : Eaton's Fine Letter Papers

 

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Benque

04 Jan 2017
10:21:41am
I thought I would post these two cinderellas, the only part of the set I have, as well as a picture of the full set.
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The following is what I found on another web site, 1 or 2 years ago.
I am sure this has been covered here before, but just in case, and just for interest:
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Eaton Paper Company
From: http://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11754&whichpage=2&SearchTerms=eaton
Several copies of this label have been circulating lately and it may be worthwhile concluding with a note about the locomotive shown thereon.

As stated on the label the train is the "Broadway Limited" hauled by a streamlined version of Pennsylvania's famous K4s class. Originally brought out in 1914, the class ran 425 locomotives by the time production ceased in 1927. They were built by Baldwin's and the Pennsylvania Company's works at Altoona, Pa. (of Horseshoe Curve fame). They weighed 138 tons.

In 1936, after extensive wind tunnel testing on clay models, a number of these locomotives were streamlined at Altoona. The streamlining increased the weight to 150 tons but reduced the wind resistance by over one third at 60 m.p.h.

The principle dimensions are: wheel arrangement 4-6-2, two outside cylinders 27" (diameter) x 28" (stroke), diameter of driving wheels 6' 8", boiler pressure 205 lbs./sq. in., length over buffers of engine and tender 80' 5-1/2" (in original form), 95' 0" (streamlined). The increased length was because the streamlined version was fitted with an 18,000 (U.S.) gallon tender in place of the 14,000 gallon tender originally fitted.

Author's Note:

In Railway Philately Volume 6 No.1 (December 1971) the following correction appeared:

"Without disrespect to my good friend Tony Goodbody, I would correct an error in his article on the USA (September Journal). The 'Eaton's Fine Letter Papers' label does not show the PRR streamlined K4s No.3768, but the lone prototype S-1 class 6-4-4-6- Duplex No.6100.

The duplex arrangement consisted of two independent sets of cylinders, wheels and motion in one rigid frame, the purpose being to lessen the weight of the reciprocating masses (and therefore the hammer blow on the track) as compared with an 8-coupled locomotive. Like 3768, No.6100 was styled by the industrial designer Raymond Loewy, and was displayed at the New York World's Fair in 1939-40. It was in action a stationary roller plant with "American Railroads" blazoned along the 16-wheel, 2,430 gallon tender.

In line service, however, it was something of a white elephant, being too cumbersome for the duties allotted to it, and was cut up in 1949. The duplex concept had meanwhile been developed into the T-1 4-4-4-4. S-1 had cylinders 22" x 26" (four), driving wheels 7 ft. in diameter and weighted 27.5 long tons." (a mistake I think: see below).

C.A.Hart

Andy Hart was obviously correct.

Then I have added in M/S : 'Boiler pressure 300p.s.i., Length = 140 ft. 2.5 ins., Weight 271.5 tons, Maximum speed 100 mph, Built in Juniata Shops, Altoona.'
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04 Jan 2017
03:02:57pm
re: Eaton's Fine Letter Papers

This is either an indication of how old I am, or how young my kids are...

My 16-year old daughter took the train to Toronto yesterday with her girlfriend. She told me they were going to the Aquarium, out for a nice lunch, then doing some shopping in (trendy) Yorkville and Queen Street East.

Then she dropped the bomb...

"On our way back to the train we're going to go to the Eden Centre". When I corrected her that it was the Eaton Centre, named after the famous Canadian retailer, she said "OMG, dad, there's no such thing! Olivia says it's named after the Garden of Eden!"

Oy!

Dave.

BTW, those are super-cool Cinderellas!




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Benque

04 Jan 2017
04:13:19pm
re: Eaton's Fine Letter Papers

Hi Dave,
My daughter is 23. I remember well when she was 16!

I inherited 4 locomotives and one liner from my Grand Dad. No idea where he came by them.
All four of the locos (my fav!) are in the same condition and grade as the one in the picture, though I haven't laid eyes on them since I scanned them 3 years ago. I do not recall how good the gum is, but do not recall any issues.
After I opened this thread, I did a search for "Eaton" in the threads, and found one post where another member posted a pic of the full set she had acquired. I closed the page, but messaged her about this post, in case she was curious.
Eden Center....yeah, I know what you mean. When I first saw these cinderellas, I thought they were issued by T Eaton & Co, but then found the info posted above.

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05 Jan 2017
08:45:54am
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"When I corrected her that it was the Eaton Centre, named after the famous Canadian retailer, she said "OMG, dad, there's no such thing! Olivia says it's named after the Garden of Eden!""



My ex-wife told me a story after work, one day, about a conversation among some coworkers at her work station. One was arguing vehemently that the city of Liverpool (yes, that Liverpool) was located in Germany (yes, that Germany). Why did she think so? Because...

"I've got a pen pal in Germany, and he's from Liverpool."

Ted
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Benque

04 Jan 2017
10:21:41am

I thought I would post these two cinderellas, the only part of the set I have, as well as a picture of the full set.
Image Not Found

Image Not Found

The following is what I found on another web site, 1 or 2 years ago.
I am sure this has been covered here before, but just in case, and just for interest:
****************************************
Eaton Paper Company
From: http://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11754&whichpage=2&SearchTerms=eaton
Several copies of this label have been circulating lately and it may be worthwhile concluding with a note about the locomotive shown thereon.

As stated on the label the train is the "Broadway Limited" hauled by a streamlined version of Pennsylvania's famous K4s class. Originally brought out in 1914, the class ran 425 locomotives by the time production ceased in 1927. They were built by Baldwin's and the Pennsylvania Company's works at Altoona, Pa. (of Horseshoe Curve fame). They weighed 138 tons.

In 1936, after extensive wind tunnel testing on clay models, a number of these locomotives were streamlined at Altoona. The streamlining increased the weight to 150 tons but reduced the wind resistance by over one third at 60 m.p.h.

The principle dimensions are: wheel arrangement 4-6-2, two outside cylinders 27" (diameter) x 28" (stroke), diameter of driving wheels 6' 8", boiler pressure 205 lbs./sq. in., length over buffers of engine and tender 80' 5-1/2" (in original form), 95' 0" (streamlined). The increased length was because the streamlined version was fitted with an 18,000 (U.S.) gallon tender in place of the 14,000 gallon tender originally fitted.

Author's Note:

In Railway Philately Volume 6 No.1 (December 1971) the following correction appeared:

"Without disrespect to my good friend Tony Goodbody, I would correct an error in his article on the USA (September Journal). The 'Eaton's Fine Letter Papers' label does not show the PRR streamlined K4s No.3768, but the lone prototype S-1 class 6-4-4-6- Duplex No.6100.

The duplex arrangement consisted of two independent sets of cylinders, wheels and motion in one rigid frame, the purpose being to lessen the weight of the reciprocating masses (and therefore the hammer blow on the track) as compared with an 8-coupled locomotive. Like 3768, No.6100 was styled by the industrial designer Raymond Loewy, and was displayed at the New York World's Fair in 1939-40. It was in action a stationary roller plant with "American Railroads" blazoned along the 16-wheel, 2,430 gallon tender.

In line service, however, it was something of a white elephant, being too cumbersome for the duties allotted to it, and was cut up in 1949. The duplex concept had meanwhile been developed into the T-1 4-4-4-4. S-1 had cylinders 22" x 26" (four), driving wheels 7 ft. in diameter and weighted 27.5 long tons." (a mistake I think: see below).

C.A.Hart

Andy Hart was obviously correct.

Then I have added in M/S : 'Boiler pressure 300p.s.i., Length = 140 ft. 2.5 ins., Weight 271.5 tons, Maximum speed 100 mph, Built in Juniata Shops, Altoona.'
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04 Jan 2017
03:02:57pm

re: Eaton's Fine Letter Papers

This is either an indication of how old I am, or how young my kids are...

My 16-year old daughter took the train to Toronto yesterday with her girlfriend. She told me they were going to the Aquarium, out for a nice lunch, then doing some shopping in (trendy) Yorkville and Queen Street East.

Then she dropped the bomb...

"On our way back to the train we're going to go to the Eden Centre". When I corrected her that it was the Eaton Centre, named after the famous Canadian retailer, she said "OMG, dad, there's no such thing! Olivia says it's named after the Garden of Eden!"

Oy!

Dave.

BTW, those are super-cool Cinderellas!




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Benque

04 Jan 2017
04:13:19pm

re: Eaton's Fine Letter Papers

Hi Dave,
My daughter is 23. I remember well when she was 16!

I inherited 4 locomotives and one liner from my Grand Dad. No idea where he came by them.
All four of the locos (my fav!) are in the same condition and grade as the one in the picture, though I haven't laid eyes on them since I scanned them 3 years ago. I do not recall how good the gum is, but do not recall any issues.
After I opened this thread, I did a search for "Eaton" in the threads, and found one post where another member posted a pic of the full set she had acquired. I closed the page, but messaged her about this post, in case she was curious.
Eden Center....yeah, I know what you mean. When I first saw these cinderellas, I thought they were issued by T Eaton & Co, but then found the info posted above.

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youpiao

05 Jan 2017
08:45:54am

re: Eaton's Fine Letter Papers

"When I corrected her that it was the Eaton Centre, named after the famous Canadian retailer, she said "OMG, dad, there's no such thing! Olivia says it's named after the Garden of Eden!""



My ex-wife told me a story after work, one day, about a conversation among some coworkers at her work station. One was arguing vehemently that the city of Liverpool (yes, that Liverpool) was located in Germany (yes, that Germany). Why did she think so? Because...

"I've got a pen pal in Germany, and he's from Liverpool."

Ted
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"Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-PTANG. Zoom-Boing. Z'nourrwringmm"
        

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