What we collect!

 

Stamporama Discussion Board Logo
For People Who Love To Talk About Stamps
Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
Stamporama Discussion Board Logo
For People Who Love To Talk About Stamps
Discussion - Member to Member Sales - Research Center
Stamporama Discussion Board Logo
For People Who Love To Talk About Stamps



What we collect!
What we collect!


General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Describing/valuing gum "oddities"

 

Author
Postings
lemaven
Members Picture


07 Mar 2017
09:48:03pm
I'm using the word "oddities" as a descriptor, because this is odd, not from a specific philatelic definition...

Occasionally I will come across a stamp that is clearly MNH, but the gum will have some strange artifacts. Sometimes it is a natural (?) "crackling" appearance on older stamps or lines from the roller in certain types.

But occasionally there is a stamp where the gum is simply missing in a weird spot and with a strange shape (not a straight line, or a rectangular hinge-mark, but more like one of those moles you never want to find). I assume this occurs if something (a torn bit of paper?) gets caught in the gadget during the gumming process.

Unfortunately, no end of attempts has yielded a decent scan to post, and so wouldn't be able to do so if listing for sale.

Would it be reasonable to describe as (something along the lines of) "MNH/Unused with seemingly natural gum skip"? And similarly, to price as something less than true MNH - maybe with a presumed 50% discount to CV?

Thanks, Dave.


Like
Login to Like
this post
michael78651

08 Mar 2017
01:09:02am
re: Describing/valuing gum "oddities"

If the gum is no longer post office fresh, or appears the way that a normal MNH example of the stamp looks, then the stamp is not MNH.

Like
Login to Like
this post
51Studebaker
Members Picture


Dialysis, damned if you do...dead if you don't

08 Mar 2017
01:44:58am
re: Describing/valuing gum "oddities"

'Disturbed gum' is generally accepted as the proper term. And there is significant value decrease for stamps with this kind of condition fault. How much depends greatly upon the rarity of the stamp.
Don

Like
Login to Like
this post

"Current Score... Don 1 - Cancer 0"

stampsmarter.org
BenFranklin1902
Members Picture


Tom in Exton, PA

08 Mar 2017
11:17:37am
re: Describing/valuing gum "oddities"

The "crackling" you describe is more aging or gum that's been affected by storage in adverse conditions over the years. I recently had a late 1930s commemorative stamps that "shattered" in my hands like a dried out leaf. I've seen this as aging on old newspaper quality publications but never on a stamp before.

The paper literally broke into many small pieces. But other stamps of that same issue are post office fresh. Don't know why.

Like
Login to Like
this post

"Check out my eBay Stuff! Username Turtles-Trading-Post"
phos45
Members Picture


08 Mar 2017
12:32:42pm
re: Describing/valuing gum "oddities"

UHU hinge remover will restore cracked gum ... saturate, then place in mount to dry

Like
Login to Like
this post

machinstudygroup.blogspot.ca
roy
Members Picture


BuckaCover.com - 80,000 covers priced 60c to $1.50 - Easy browsing 500 categories

10 Mar 2017
07:44:31pm
re: Describing/valuing gum "oddities"

"Natural gum skip" is in fact an acceptable philatelic term, commonly used in major auction catalogues. If is a commonplace occurrence on Canadian stamps of the 1920s-30s.

Roy



Like 
1 Member
likes this post.
Login to Like.

"Over 7,000 new covers coming Wednesday March 20. See my homepage for details."

www.Buckacover.com
lemaven
Members Picture


15 Mar 2017
11:00:37am
re: Describing/valuing gum "oddities"

Roy:

Thanks. Do these gum skips have a typical appearance? For example, a vertical/horizontal line or a discernable consistent shape (e.g. perhaps from a piece of the machinery that feeds or gums the stamp sheets)?

Again in some Canadian stamps of the era you mentioned I found a few more recently when preparing for Auction. Like weird little skin moles with irregular margins - in a couple cases the gum isn't entirely absent - the paper looks shiny, as if there is some gum there but looks like it is noticeably less than the surrounding area.


Like
Login to Like
this post
        

 

Author/Postings
Members Picture
lemaven

07 Mar 2017
09:48:03pm

I'm using the word "oddities" as a descriptor, because this is odd, not from a specific philatelic definition...

Occasionally I will come across a stamp that is clearly MNH, but the gum will have some strange artifacts. Sometimes it is a natural (?) "crackling" appearance on older stamps or lines from the roller in certain types.

But occasionally there is a stamp where the gum is simply missing in a weird spot and with a strange shape (not a straight line, or a rectangular hinge-mark, but more like one of those moles you never want to find). I assume this occurs if something (a torn bit of paper?) gets caught in the gadget during the gumming process.

Unfortunately, no end of attempts has yielded a decent scan to post, and so wouldn't be able to do so if listing for sale.

Would it be reasonable to describe as (something along the lines of) "MNH/Unused with seemingly natural gum skip"? And similarly, to price as something less than true MNH - maybe with a presumed 50% discount to CV?

Thanks, Dave.


Like
Login to Like
this post
michael78651

08 Mar 2017
01:09:02am

re: Describing/valuing gum "oddities"

If the gum is no longer post office fresh, or appears the way that a normal MNH example of the stamp looks, then the stamp is not MNH.

Like
Login to Like
this post
Members Picture
51Studebaker

Dialysis, damned if you do...dead if you don't
08 Mar 2017
01:44:58am

re: Describing/valuing gum "oddities"

'Disturbed gum' is generally accepted as the proper term. And there is significant value decrease for stamps with this kind of condition fault. How much depends greatly upon the rarity of the stamp.
Don

Like
Login to Like
this post

"Current Score... Don 1 - Cancer 0"

stampsmarter.org
Members Picture
BenFranklin1902

Tom in Exton, PA
08 Mar 2017
11:17:37am

re: Describing/valuing gum "oddities"

The "crackling" you describe is more aging or gum that's been affected by storage in adverse conditions over the years. I recently had a late 1930s commemorative stamps that "shattered" in my hands like a dried out leaf. I've seen this as aging on old newspaper quality publications but never on a stamp before.

The paper literally broke into many small pieces. But other stamps of that same issue are post office fresh. Don't know why.

Like
Login to Like
this post

"Check out my eBay Stuff! Username Turtles-Trading-Post"
Members Picture
phos45

08 Mar 2017
12:32:42pm

re: Describing/valuing gum "oddities"

UHU hinge remover will restore cracked gum ... saturate, then place in mount to dry

Like
Login to Like
this post

machinstudygroup.blo ...

BuckaCover.com - 80,000 covers priced 60c to $1.50 - Easy browsing 500 categories
10 Mar 2017
07:44:31pm

re: Describing/valuing gum "oddities"

"Natural gum skip" is in fact an acceptable philatelic term, commonly used in major auction catalogues. If is a commonplace occurrence on Canadian stamps of the 1920s-30s.

Roy



Like 
1 Member
likes this post.
Login to Like.

"Over 7,000 new covers coming Wednesday March 20. See my homepage for details."

www.Buckacover.com
Members Picture
lemaven

15 Mar 2017
11:00:37am

re: Describing/valuing gum "oddities"

Roy:

Thanks. Do these gum skips have a typical appearance? For example, a vertical/horizontal line or a discernable consistent shape (e.g. perhaps from a piece of the machinery that feeds or gums the stamp sheets)?

Again in some Canadian stamps of the era you mentioned I found a few more recently when preparing for Auction. Like weird little skin moles with irregular margins - in a couple cases the gum isn't entirely absent - the paper looks shiny, as if there is some gum there but looks like it is noticeably less than the surrounding area.


Like
Login to Like
this post
        

Contact Webmaster | Visitors Online | Unsubscribe Emails | Facebook


User Agreement

Copyright © 2024 Stamporama.com