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A couple of nice receiving strikes on the back Including one that Tom might like, Pompton Plains, NJ.
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The 'Holy Land Philatelist' was a glossy publication that was issued from 1954 to 1961. I have copies up to 1959, really a great read.
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Hi Buffalo;
That is a way cool cover, and I don't even like nor collect covers!
Thanks for sharing that.
Just sortin' things out....
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Until I saw this cover, I had never heard of this magazine ! I have been collecting and living in Israel for 26 years and never heard of it ! Amazing. I can imagine that after the 50's there was no longer a need for an English-language magazine, hence it's demise.
Interesting cover in more ways than one.
The registered label is unusual in that they are not often found without the blue bar separating the postal district/Office from the registered number. This only appears to occur when there are 3 lines for the former as in this case. It's not often either that you will find Exhibition registered labels.
Also, the sender, presumably the Magazine Office, cut a piece of the stamp from each value on the Festivals set in about the same position. Odd when one considers they are from separate sheets !!
I like the hexagonal handstamp with running stag too. I believe it's a first day handstamp.......any chance of a close-up scan to read what it says ? Thanks in advance.
Nice cover
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Thanks guys!
Raider, I never used to collect covers either, but since joining SOR, I've gone down lots of different roads that I never did before.
LB1, here's a close-up of the hex, not real clean, but I believe it does say "Day of Issue".
Also, the way the New Years set is cut seems to be somewhat common. I have these unused ones in my collection and have seen others. I've never been sure why, but I always assumed they were cut this way on purpose.
One other thing I particularly like, is how the labels are tied to the cover. Seems like a nice touch.
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Like the discusion!
I was aware of this publication.
An interesting item, although the New Year tabbed stamps and the sheet are very common and were issued in very large amounts.Bale gives the first day of the stamps as 4 9 57 and the sheet as 17 9 57. The postmark looks like 17 so refers to the sheet and is a special exhibition postmark.The exhibition was 17.9 57 until 23 9 57.
The festival New Year stamps are often found with the "extra" top piece because I believe that a special sheetlet with a row of 5 stamps was issued which had the "extra" part at the top, which is why the stamps are all the same length as it was cut in the printers to be the same and not by the sender.
I have both types of this stamp in my collection. In fact I have many sets of both normal tops and "extended" tops. There is a picture of the sheetlet of 5 in the Moriah 2013 catalogue!The picture shows the top part of the stamp is imperf, but I have only seen the top with perfs as in your picture.
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A can of worms has been opened and will make for some interesting research.
I believe whitebuffalo's cover and mint set have both been cut down from larger sheets of 20 but will stand corrected if research proves otherwise.
So far I have found no evidence of the tabbed sheets of 5 with perforations in the top margin.
Research ongoing.........
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I have scanned the Moriah cat.page. Not sure why it is sideways!
However you can see the top extra bit in the photo!
Incidentally 2 other issues from the same era were produced the same way with "top" extensions and are also shown. They do turn up from time to time.
As you are in Israel Londonbus, please check locally and let me know as I am in the UK.
Hope this helps!
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Very interesting!
Unless I'm seeing those wrong, they appear to have a white area above the printed "extended" margins. If that's the case, all of these I've ever seen had the white area trimmed off.
I've never come across either of the other 2 extended margin issues.
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As far as I know, only 3 stamps have been issued in this small 'tab sheet' format. The 1957 Belazel Museum, Independence Day and the 50 Prutot value of the Festivals set. The first two were printed on white paper so the white margin at the top blends in. The 50 prutut value was printed on blued paper so it looks odd. I have never seen these small sheets for the 160 or 300 prutot values so maybe it was an experiment or trial print.
Therefore, I believe that both sets of stamps shown by WB are 'cut-downs' from the 20 stamp sheets. Besides, they have perforations running through the top so almost certainly not from the small sheets. But time may tell and I will endeavor to find out more when next in the big city !
Watch this space.
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House of Zion has some of these in the Nov 5th 2017 Auction!
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This came in with a batch of other Israel material, I like it.
A couple of nice receiving strikes on the back Including one that Tom might like, Pompton Plains, NJ.
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The 'Holy Land Philatelist' was a glossy publication that was issued from 1954 to 1961. I have copies up to 1959, really a great read.
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Hi Buffalo;
That is a way cool cover, and I don't even like nor collect covers!
Thanks for sharing that.
Just sortin' things out....
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Until I saw this cover, I had never heard of this magazine ! I have been collecting and living in Israel for 26 years and never heard of it ! Amazing. I can imagine that after the 50's there was no longer a need for an English-language magazine, hence it's demise.
Interesting cover in more ways than one.
The registered label is unusual in that they are not often found without the blue bar separating the postal district/Office from the registered number. This only appears to occur when there are 3 lines for the former as in this case. It's not often either that you will find Exhibition registered labels.
Also, the sender, presumably the Magazine Office, cut a piece of the stamp from each value on the Festivals set in about the same position. Odd when one considers they are from separate sheets !!
I like the hexagonal handstamp with running stag too. I believe it's a first day handstamp.......any chance of a close-up scan to read what it says ? Thanks in advance.
Nice cover
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Thanks guys!
Raider, I never used to collect covers either, but since joining SOR, I've gone down lots of different roads that I never did before.
LB1, here's a close-up of the hex, not real clean, but I believe it does say "Day of Issue".
Also, the way the New Years set is cut seems to be somewhat common. I have these unused ones in my collection and have seen others. I've never been sure why, but I always assumed they were cut this way on purpose.
One other thing I particularly like, is how the labels are tied to the cover. Seems like a nice touch.
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Like the discusion!
I was aware of this publication.
An interesting item, although the New Year tabbed stamps and the sheet are very common and were issued in very large amounts.Bale gives the first day of the stamps as 4 9 57 and the sheet as 17 9 57. The postmark looks like 17 so refers to the sheet and is a special exhibition postmark.The exhibition was 17.9 57 until 23 9 57.
The festival New Year stamps are often found with the "extra" top piece because I believe that a special sheetlet with a row of 5 stamps was issued which had the "extra" part at the top, which is why the stamps are all the same length as it was cut in the printers to be the same and not by the sender.
I have both types of this stamp in my collection. In fact I have many sets of both normal tops and "extended" tops. There is a picture of the sheetlet of 5 in the Moriah 2013 catalogue!The picture shows the top part of the stamp is imperf, but I have only seen the top with perfs as in your picture.
Hope this helps
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A can of worms has been opened and will make for some interesting research.
I believe whitebuffalo's cover and mint set have both been cut down from larger sheets of 20 but will stand corrected if research proves otherwise.
So far I have found no evidence of the tabbed sheets of 5 with perforations in the top margin.
Research ongoing.........
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I have scanned the Moriah cat.page. Not sure why it is sideways!
However you can see the top extra bit in the photo!
Incidentally 2 other issues from the same era were produced the same way with "top" extensions and are also shown. They do turn up from time to time.
As you are in Israel Londonbus, please check locally and let me know as I am in the UK.
Hope this helps!
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Very interesting!
Unless I'm seeing those wrong, they appear to have a white area above the printed "extended" margins. If that's the case, all of these I've ever seen had the white area trimmed off.
I've never come across either of the other 2 extended margin issues.
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As far as I know, only 3 stamps have been issued in this small 'tab sheet' format. The 1957 Belazel Museum, Independence Day and the 50 Prutot value of the Festivals set. The first two were printed on white paper so the white margin at the top blends in. The 50 prutut value was printed on blued paper so it looks odd. I have never seen these small sheets for the 160 or 300 prutot values so maybe it was an experiment or trial print.
Therefore, I believe that both sets of stamps shown by WB are 'cut-downs' from the 20 stamp sheets. Besides, they have perforations running through the top so almost certainly not from the small sheets. But time may tell and I will endeavor to find out more when next in the big city !
Watch this space.
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House of Zion has some of these in the Nov 5th 2017 Auction!
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