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General Philatelic/Supplies, Literature & Software : Printing Steiner

 

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14 Aug 2017
07:16:43am
I am currently experimenting with printing the Steiner pages to Lighthouse blank pages and am struggling with the US measurements and was hoping someone could pick a random Steiner page of their own and advise me the size of the first stamp space on that page.

The problem I have is if I select different papers A4 , Letter etc. then my printer messes around with the stamp sizes rather than just print out the same size.

I need to set up my printer so that the pages are printing to the correct measurements for the stamps.

If you can help just tell me the page you chose and the size of the 1st stamp space on the page this will enable me to check that I am printing out the pages to the correct sizes and they are not enlarging or shrinking which is happening when I select different sizes.

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14 Aug 2017
10:45:34am

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Hi Richmond, Hong Kong 1938-48, KG V1 1c, measures 24.5mm horizontal by 28mm vertical.
What printer are you using and what settings, ie, shrink to fit, stretch to fit or actual size.
Think your Lighthouse pages are 270mm by 297mm, my pages are on letter size.
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14 Aug 2017
03:35:29pm

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Steiner pages are pdf and if you open it using Adobe Acrobat Reader, then you have the option of printing the page. When you click on the print page icon this window will open.


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Using the settings shown you will see that actual size is used.

This should print out on your printer with the boxes of the correct size.

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14 Aug 2017
03:56:23pm
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PDFs have some significant drawbacks and this is one of them. The PDF developers can configure the pages to force them to retain the proper 1:1 scale on the graphical elements. But if they did this then some users may have issues when printing to different sized paper. If they do allow the page to scale to different sized paper, then it also scales graphic elements on the page (box size will change). It is the nature of the beast.
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14 Aug 2017
08:29:30pm
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A couple years back I bought a wide printer with the idea of printing pages to fit with my Scott and Lighthouse albums. I never could accomplish it. I found I was limited to specific page sizes, none of which worked for the applications I needed. No way of doing a custom sized page. I had to pack it up and take it back. Since, I take my stuff to Kinko's for printing.

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15 Aug 2017
12:45:01am
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Snick

I purchased an EPSON WF710 A3 printer for under AUD 300 - it is perfect for printing Steiner to heavy duty custom pages such as the Lighthouse pages (270w x 297d) I use, as it has, in addition to the standard casette, a rear manual feed which allows you to feed though these larger (custom) heavy duty pages.

Also the manual feed is adjustable which 'locks' the page into place so the pages do not misalign during printing and thus come out very straight.

The only issue I am having at the moment is ensuring the Steiner pages themselves do not distort themselves due to imperial /metric issues between USA and Australia which I have raised above.

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17 Aug 2017
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Seeing that A4 pages are 210 x 297 mm and US letter paper 216 x 279 mm scaling the output by setting the custom scale in the print dialog box to 210/216 or 97% should ensure that the letter sized PDF is reproduced in full on A4 paper.

The scaling would of course apply to everything on the page including text and boxes. This will probably not be noticeable though, for example a typical Commonwealth definitive box including a 2mm border would be something like 25.0 x 28.0 mm which after scaling would print out as 24.25 x 27.2 mm. The difference would be barely noticeable although it does offend the OCD in me.

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20 Aug 2017
08:53:20am
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Thank you all for your advice

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23 Jan 2018
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"Seeing that A4 pages are 210 x 297 mm and US letter paper 216 x 279 mm scaling the output by setting the custom scale in the print dialog box to 210/216 or 97% should ensure that the letter sized PDF is reproduced in full on A4 paper."

I find that the stamp frames are too small when allowing print in 97% on A4 paper. So I always print in 100 %. This makes the top and bottom bordes (outside the main frame) 9 mm wider and the side borders 3 mm narrower on A4 than on letter sized paper.

The difference is clearly visible and significantly better with 100 % than with 97 %,
most obvious on large objects (blocks and minisheets)

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23 Jan 2018
05:48:04pm
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I did an experiment once where I converted Steiner pages to Power Point and then was able to transfer (copy/paste) to a larger size page so the frames were not distorted. It is a bit of work but can be done.

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14 Aug 2017
07:16:43am

I am currently experimenting with printing the Steiner pages to Lighthouse blank pages and am struggling with the US measurements and was hoping someone could pick a random Steiner page of their own and advise me the size of the first stamp space on that page.

The problem I have is if I select different papers A4 , Letter etc. then my printer messes around with the stamp sizes rather than just print out the same size.

I need to set up my printer so that the pages are printing to the correct measurements for the stamps.

If you can help just tell me the page you chose and the size of the 1st stamp space on the page this will enable me to check that I am printing out the pages to the correct sizes and they are not enlarging or shrinking which is happening when I select different sizes.

Regards


Richmond


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14 Aug 2017
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Hi Richmond, Hong Kong 1938-48, KG V1 1c, measures 24.5mm horizontal by 28mm vertical.
What printer are you using and what settings, ie, shrink to fit, stretch to fit or actual size.
Think your Lighthouse pages are 270mm by 297mm, my pages are on letter size.
Vic

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14 Aug 2017
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re: Printing Steiner

Steiner pages are pdf and if you open it using Adobe Acrobat Reader, then you have the option of printing the page. When you click on the print page icon this window will open.


Image Not Found

Using the settings shown you will see that actual size is used.

This should print out on your printer with the boxes of the correct size.

Doug

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14 Aug 2017
03:56:23pm

re: Printing Steiner

PDFs have some significant drawbacks and this is one of them. The PDF developers can configure the pages to force them to retain the proper 1:1 scale on the graphical elements. But if they did this then some users may have issues when printing to different sized paper. If they do allow the page to scale to different sized paper, then it also scales graphic elements on the page (box size will change). It is the nature of the beast.
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14 Aug 2017
08:29:30pm

re: Printing Steiner

A couple years back I bought a wide printer with the idea of printing pages to fit with my Scott and Lighthouse albums. I never could accomplish it. I found I was limited to specific page sizes, none of which worked for the applications I needed. No way of doing a custom sized page. I had to pack it up and take it back. Since, I take my stuff to Kinko's for printing.

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15 Aug 2017
12:45:01am

re: Printing Steiner

Snick

I purchased an EPSON WF710 A3 printer for under AUD 300 - it is perfect for printing Steiner to heavy duty custom pages such as the Lighthouse pages (270w x 297d) I use, as it has, in addition to the standard casette, a rear manual feed which allows you to feed though these larger (custom) heavy duty pages.

Also the manual feed is adjustable which 'locks' the page into place so the pages do not misalign during printing and thus come out very straight.

The only issue I am having at the moment is ensuring the Steiner pages themselves do not distort themselves due to imperial /metric issues between USA and Australia which I have raised above.

Regards


Richmond

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17 Aug 2017
12:09:29am

re: Printing Steiner

Seeing that A4 pages are 210 x 297 mm and US letter paper 216 x 279 mm scaling the output by setting the custom scale in the print dialog box to 210/216 or 97% should ensure that the letter sized PDF is reproduced in full on A4 paper.

The scaling would of course apply to everything on the page including text and boxes. This will probably not be noticeable though, for example a typical Commonwealth definitive box including a 2mm border would be something like 25.0 x 28.0 mm which after scaling would print out as 24.25 x 27.2 mm. The difference would be barely noticeable although it does offend the OCD in me.

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20 Aug 2017
08:53:20am

re: Printing Steiner

Thank you all for your advice

Regards


Richmond.

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23 Jan 2018
02:30:15am

re: Printing Steiner

"Seeing that A4 pages are 210 x 297 mm and US letter paper 216 x 279 mm scaling the output by setting the custom scale in the print dialog box to 210/216 or 97% should ensure that the letter sized PDF is reproduced in full on A4 paper."

I find that the stamp frames are too small when allowing print in 97% on A4 paper. So I always print in 100 %. This makes the top and bottom bordes (outside the main frame) 9 mm wider and the side borders 3 mm narrower on A4 than on letter sized paper.

The difference is clearly visible and significantly better with 100 % than with 97 %,
most obvious on large objects (blocks and minisheets)

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Al
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23 Jan 2018
05:48:04pm

re: Printing Steiner

I did an experiment once where I converted Steiner pages to Power Point and then was able to transfer (copy/paste) to a larger size page so the frames were not distorted. It is a bit of work but can be done.

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