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General Philatelic/Identify This? : India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

 

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JohnnyRockets
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24 Jun 2018
08:15:23pm
Hi all,

I cannot find this in my Scotts catalog for India.

Must be missing it.

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Can you assist?



Thanks!


JR

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DaveSheridan
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24 Jun 2018
10:58:07pm
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1983 Sc897

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michael78651

24 Jun 2018
11:08:19pm
re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

Depending on perforation:

Scott #897; 897a; or 897b

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JohnnyRockets
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25 Jun 2018
10:47:55am
re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

Hi guys!

Thanks, now I'll go back through my catalog and see how I missed that one!


Really appreciate it.


JR

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smauggie
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25 Jun 2018
12:07:05pm
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Sometimes what I do when I am having a hard time is to go on stampworld.com and look up the stamp there. You can search by theme/motive, in this case for Flora, and you will find the stamp, and it will tell you what year it was issued. That then helps you limit your scope for searching in the catalog to the year in question.

There is definitely a learning curve to learning how to use the Scott stamp catalog.

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michael78651

25 Jun 2018
12:15:51pm
re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

Johnny, I don't know how old your catalogs are. If they are on the older side, you could have easily missed it.

Scott (I don't remember when) added cross references to additional sets of similar stamps, especially definitive sets, at the end of a set's listing. I used the cross reference of the first definitive set to find the stamp in question. These cross references, unfortunately, go mostly forward in time, not backwards, so it is best to find the earliest set.

Hope that helps.

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JohnnyRockets
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25 Jun 2018
01:32:06pm
re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

Hi Guys,

LOL! I guess there is a learning curve! I thought the hard part was buying the catalogs!

Well all of my volumes are 2010 or newer, so that is good.

I know the problem was that I just thought the stamp was older than it was.

I will definitely pay attention to the cross references for sets of similar stamps.

Stampworld is a great idea, thank you! I will do that in the future I think.


Thanks guys again!


JR

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JohnnyRockets
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25 Jun 2018
08:00:39pm
re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

Hi guys (again!),

Okay, I'm pulling my hair out (kind of: my head is shaved)... but you get the idea! I feel like SUCH a newbie!

I am scouring volume 3, G-I, 2012, Scott's catalog and I cannot find that crazy stamp!

What is it near?

According to StampWorld it is a stamp from India, from December 1982.


Going crazy!


Thanks!


JR

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smauggie
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25 Jun 2018
08:42:03pm
re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

Well, as you can see even my Stampworld workaround does not work in all cases. This is one of the more frustrating aspects of the Scott Catalog. You will actually find it in the Scott Catalog in the 1981 year because it is considered part of a set, the first stamp of which was issued in 1981. In addition, in my catalog, there is no picture of the stamp in the catalog. For modern issues, Scott is not in the habit of providing an image of all the stamps in stamp sets.

As previously stated, this is Scott 897, so if all else fails you can find it in the catalog by the catalog number, but that doesn't solve the problems you have encountered.

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25 Jun 2018
08:59:26pm

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here's the steiner page its on if that helps

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26 Jun 2018
07:17:44pm
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Hi all,

Got it!

Found it exactly like you all mentioned!


Thanks!


Now is makes sense. Happy


Johnny

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malcolm197

23 Aug 2018
10:28:56am
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India can be a problem. They often have several sets overlapping over a quite long period.

Other countries that have rampant inflation have sets for low medium and high values which have a "similar" appearence. By the time of the end of the set some high value stamp designs have a lower face value than some of the subsequent low-value designs.

The more familiar you become with a given country the more you will be able to identify which group or set a stamp belongs to, instinctively.

Malcolm

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JohnnyRockets

24 Jun 2018
08:15:23pm

Hi all,

I cannot find this in my Scotts catalog for India.

Must be missing it.

Image Not Found

Can you assist?



Thanks!


JR

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DaveSheridan

24 Jun 2018
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1983 Sc897

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michael78651

24 Jun 2018
11:08:19pm

re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

Depending on perforation:

Scott #897; 897a; or 897b

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JohnnyRockets

25 Jun 2018
10:47:55am

re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

Hi guys!

Thanks, now I'll go back through my catalog and see how I missed that one!


Really appreciate it.


JR

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smauggie

25 Jun 2018
12:07:05pm

re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

Sometimes what I do when I am having a hard time is to go on stampworld.com and look up the stamp there. You can search by theme/motive, in this case for Flora, and you will find the stamp, and it will tell you what year it was issued. That then helps you limit your scope for searching in the catalog to the year in question.

There is definitely a learning curve to learning how to use the Scott stamp catalog.

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michael78651

25 Jun 2018
12:15:51pm

re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

Johnny, I don't know how old your catalogs are. If they are on the older side, you could have easily missed it.

Scott (I don't remember when) added cross references to additional sets of similar stamps, especially definitive sets, at the end of a set's listing. I used the cross reference of the first definitive set to find the stamp in question. These cross references, unfortunately, go mostly forward in time, not backwards, so it is best to find the earliest set.

Hope that helps.

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JohnnyRockets

25 Jun 2018
01:32:06pm

re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

Hi Guys,

LOL! I guess there is a learning curve! I thought the hard part was buying the catalogs!

Well all of my volumes are 2010 or newer, so that is good.

I know the problem was that I just thought the stamp was older than it was.

I will definitely pay attention to the cross references for sets of similar stamps.

Stampworld is a great idea, thank you! I will do that in the future I think.


Thanks guys again!


JR

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JohnnyRockets

25 Jun 2018
08:00:39pm

re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

Hi guys (again!),

Okay, I'm pulling my hair out (kind of: my head is shaved)... but you get the idea! I feel like SUCH a newbie!

I am scouring volume 3, G-I, 2012, Scott's catalog and I cannot find that crazy stamp!

What is it near?

According to StampWorld it is a stamp from India, from December 1982.


Going crazy!


Thanks!


JR

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smauggie

25 Jun 2018
08:42:03pm

re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

Well, as you can see even my Stampworld workaround does not work in all cases. This is one of the more frustrating aspects of the Scott Catalog. You will actually find it in the Scott Catalog in the 1981 year because it is considered part of a set, the first stamp of which was issued in 1981. In addition, in my catalog, there is no picture of the stamp in the catalog. For modern issues, Scott is not in the habit of providing an image of all the stamps in stamp sets.

As previously stated, this is Scott 897, so if all else fails you can find it in the catalog by the catalog number, but that doesn't solve the problems you have encountered.

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dell4c

25 Jun 2018
08:59:26pm

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here's the steiner page its on if that helps

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JohnnyRockets

26 Jun 2018
07:17:44pm

re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

Hi all,

Got it!

Found it exactly like you all mentioned!


Thanks!


Now is makes sense. Happy


Johnny

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malcolm197

23 Aug 2018
10:28:56am

re: India - Oranges? STILL NEED HELP!

India can be a problem. They often have several sets overlapping over a quite long period.

Other countries that have rampant inflation have sets for low medium and high values which have a "similar" appearence. By the time of the end of the set some high value stamp designs have a lower face value than some of the subsequent low-value designs.

The more familiar you become with a given country the more you will be able to identify which group or set a stamp belongs to, instinctively.

Malcolm

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