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General Philatelic/Identify This? : German Colonies

 

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Soundcrest
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19 Aug 2018
08:31:24am

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A friend of mine sent me his stock to sell off at auction and these two stamps were in it. The one on the right certainly looks like something created with a typewriter, and the other I can't find, though it does look familiar. Any ideas? Thanks

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smauggie
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19 Aug 2018
09:08:56am
re: German Colonies

The Kiautschou overprint is almost certainly forged. It doesn't match any of the options in Scott. IF it were legit it would be Scott 4, 5 or 6 under the country listing in Scott of Kiauchau.

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PhilaStore

19 Aug 2018
09:48:27am
re: German Colonies

The overprints on both stamps are fake, those overprints don't exist like that.
You also can see that the overprints was applied on a used stamp, the cancellation is under the overprint

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19 Aug 2018
10:10:23am
re: German Colonies

Not to mention that the "SAMOA" seems to be on a stamp cancelled in Hamburg!!

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michael78651

19 Aug 2018
07:25:57pm
re: German Colonies

The Samoa "overprint" was definitely done on a typewriter!

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22 Aug 2018
02:19:00am

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I have never seen "overprints" like these before, but I regularly come across all kinds of fantasy overprints on German stamps, especially World War two and aftermath items.

Sometimes it is obvious that these were done with a modern inkjet printer, but still people buy these. And that's why some creative souls keep inventing new ones.

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26 Aug 2018
02:06:01pm
re: German Colonies

" ... but I regularly come across all kinds of fantasy overprints on German stamps, especially World War two and aftermath items. ..."

Some such fabrications were meant to deceive others.
But often a collector will tire of seeing an open space
on an album page and decide to create something
just to fill the space. The interesting thing is that
over time, they can completely deceive themselves
about the stamp's provenance.
This self-deception also occurs with such things as
war stories (e.g. Normandy Landings June 6th, 1944.)
and events like the number of eyewitnesses who were
in Dealey Plaza on November 22nd, 1963, or the WTC Plaza
on September 11th, 2001.
I have been intrigued by this phenomenon for many years,
often noting the sincerity that people exhibit when
telling stories that are obviously embellished,
if not completely fabricated.
A page of stamps with spaces completely filled,
may be so much more satisfying to the owner that he,
or she, could blur the origin of the slightly bogus overprint,
after all, the stamp itself is genuine.

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Soundcrest

19 Aug 2018
08:31:24am

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A friend of mine sent me his stock to sell off at auction and these two stamps were in it. The one on the right certainly looks like something created with a typewriter, and the other I can't find, though it does look familiar. Any ideas? Thanks

Greg


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smauggie

19 Aug 2018
09:08:56am

re: German Colonies

The Kiautschou overprint is almost certainly forged. It doesn't match any of the options in Scott. IF it were legit it would be Scott 4, 5 or 6 under the country listing in Scott of Kiauchau.

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PhilaStore

19 Aug 2018
09:48:27am

re: German Colonies

The overprints on both stamps are fake, those overprints don't exist like that.
You also can see that the overprints was applied on a used stamp, the cancellation is under the overprint

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DaveSheridan

19 Aug 2018
10:10:23am

re: German Colonies

Not to mention that the "SAMOA" seems to be on a stamp cancelled in Hamburg!!

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michael78651

19 Aug 2018
07:25:57pm

re: German Colonies

The Samoa "overprint" was definitely done on a typewriter!

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Jansimon

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22 Aug 2018
02:19:00am

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re: German Colonies

I have never seen "overprints" like these before, but I regularly come across all kinds of fantasy overprints on German stamps, especially World War two and aftermath items.

Sometimes it is obvious that these were done with a modern inkjet printer, but still people buy these. And that's why some creative souls keep inventing new ones.

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
26 Aug 2018
02:06:01pm

re: German Colonies

" ... but I regularly come across all kinds of fantasy overprints on German stamps, especially World War two and aftermath items. ..."

Some such fabrications were meant to deceive others.
But often a collector will tire of seeing an open space
on an album page and decide to create something
just to fill the space. The interesting thing is that
over time, they can completely deceive themselves
about the stamp's provenance.
This self-deception also occurs with such things as
war stories (e.g. Normandy Landings June 6th, 1944.)
and events like the number of eyewitnesses who were
in Dealey Plaza on November 22nd, 1963, or the WTC Plaza
on September 11th, 2001.
I have been intrigued by this phenomenon for many years,
often noting the sincerity that people exhibit when
telling stories that are obviously embellished,
if not completely fabricated.
A page of stamps with spaces completely filled,
may be so much more satisfying to the owner that he,
or she, could blur the origin of the slightly bogus overprint,
after all, the stamp itself is genuine.

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